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In all seriousness: They are.
My brother went phone shopping yesterday. Looked at a WP7 device at a T-Mobile store. He was impressed. And as he put it, WP7 has 1 killer app: Microsoft Office... Full true compatibility...
He has a BB now, and is not impressed with Android. He like the iPhone, but mentioned that it is so passe, and just a toy...
My brother went phone shopping yesterday. Looked at a WP7 device at a T-Mobile store. He was impressed. And as he put it, WP7 has 1 killer app: Microsoft Office... Full true compatibility...
He has a BB now, and is not impressed with Android. He like the iPhone, but mentioned that it is so passe, and just a toy...
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I agree with Nokia to an extent. I teach at a high school and have noticed that the Iphone craze seems to have reached the high water mark, at least in terms of it being a fashion statement. As all fashion statements do... the Icraze too shall pass. We are talking kids here... they change what they want and that's just a fact. Anyway, will Nokia benefit from this? I am sure it will benefit. That does not mean it will be the next big thing though. Oddly enough... I see more and more kids with the BB curve.... they say they like the QWERTY keyboard to texting. This is especially true of the girls. And they like its smaller size. So anyway who knows... but yeah the Iphone is losing some popularity with "da youths".
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I dont understand all the hate towards Nokia, I have an android now, and i wont change, but for the wifw, kids and parents wp7 is so easy to use that it is a no brainer, sure android is a better os, but it is the same as win vs linux, i use linux, but the rest of the family uses win, so they dont bother me with questions all day
Besides Nokia makes the best overall phones, they may not have the lastest hardware, but the execution is flawless and the phones are well built, noone can deny that, i believe that if you go the wp way it has to be a nokia, the competition there is weak, if they went android the catchup was big, in wp the obstacles are few
Besides Nokia makes the best overall phones, they may not have the lastest hardware, but the execution is flawless and the phones are well built, noone can deny that, i believe that if you go the wp way it has to be a nokia, the competition there is weak, if they went android the catchup was big, in wp the obstacles are few
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I was fairly certain that not too long ago, we'd seen an article indicating that Nokia was continuing to lose market share... Anyone remember when they were still a relevant cell-phone company? Almost incredible to think that they were once #1!
[citation][nom]billybobser[/nom]I'm bored that despite having this 'computer in my phone, the call quality is still the same as the 1950's[/citation]
Technically, it's changed a little; I don't quite know when DS0 (the first digital line system) was implemented, but ADPCM was introduced and gave phones their first compression method in the 1970s. Minus compression artifacting, (which can actually be severe using such an old and unintensive standard) it yields about the equivalent of 300 or so kbits/second, vs. the 64 bkps that's been the standard for decades and decades.
Though it is true I'd like to see an improvement there: phones that'd use more than 64kbps for their calls. It's kinda telling that if you have an application for it, running a VOIP program over G3/G4 will yield you substantially better voice clarity. However, telecoms are very stingy as we've seen, and aren't willing to budge and use up more bandwidth without finding a way to reap money over it.
[citation][nom]billybobser[/nom]I'm bored that despite having this 'computer in my phone, the call quality is still the same as the 1950's[/citation]
Technically, it's changed a little; I don't quite know when DS0 (the first digital line system) was implemented, but ADPCM was introduced and gave phones their first compression method in the 1970s. Minus compression artifacting, (which can actually be severe using such an old and unintensive standard) it yields about the equivalent of 300 or so kbits/second, vs. the 64 bkps that's been the standard for decades and decades.
Though it is true I'd like to see an improvement there: phones that'd use more than 64kbps for their calls. It's kinda telling that if you have an application for it, running a VOIP program over G3/G4 will yield you substantially better voice clarity. However, telecoms are very stingy as we've seen, and aren't willing to budge and use up more bandwidth without finding a way to reap money over it.
[citation][nom]ettibebs[/nom]Android is complicated only if your stupid. I find it no harder to handle then the iphone and I am free of the curse that is iTune.[/citation]
1) Your stupid what? There's this word "you're" (the contraction of 'you' and 'are') That's the word you meant to use (ironic, while you're discussing stupidity...)
2) So you 'find it no harder the handle', then you refer to the iPhone? What do these two statements have to do with each other? There's this word 'than' (introducing the second element in a comparison). That's the word you meant to use.
3) iTune_s_
1) Your stupid what? There's this word "you're" (the contraction of 'you' and 'are') That's the word you meant to use (ironic, while you're discussing stupidity...)
2) So you 'find it no harder the handle', then you refer to the iPhone? What do these two statements have to do with each other? There's this word 'than' (introducing the second element in a comparison). That's the word you meant to use.
3) iTune_s_
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[citation][nom]chiefbox[/nom]It has an MS OS right !! ... No way in hell. That's what MS said about tablets, they want to be different, since they also missed the boat just like Nokia and RIM. It's better than saying "we lack vision" !![/citation]
When companies are first to market, they say,"We were first, everyone else is copying us!"
When companies are late to market, they (hope to) say,"We may not be first, but we took our time to do it right!"
Apple comes to mind, but I can't imagine any company straying from these arguments because to do otherwise would be to admit defeat.
When companies are first to market, they say,"We were first, everyone else is copying us!"
When companies are late to market, they (hope to) say,"We may not be first, but we took our time to do it right!"
Apple comes to mind, but I can't imagine any company straying from these arguments because to do otherwise would be to admit defeat.
Wow, the hate here for Nokia and WP7 is pretty astonishing. Nokia makes great phones and WP7 is a great OS. How do you know it is a great OS? Google mirrored a lot of the UI features in their ICS release. They realized it was a better way to do things and copied it.
There is no doubt Android CAN be the best phone if you are a techy and willing to put some time into customizing your phone and settings. Straight out of the store for the everyday user though, WP7 is definitely the best choice. The Xbox Live integration offers some good games for the casual gamer and they have all the standard apps like facebook and the like.
As said earlier, WP8 could be a complete game changer. Integrating phones/tablets with your PC to the extent it looks like they are trying to achieve with Windows 8/WP8 could absolutely blow away the market. With Windows ~92% market share in home PCs, who wouldn't want a phone that can share some apps and integrate and control aspects of your PC and access your network seamlessly via your phone?
There is no doubt Android CAN be the best phone if you are a techy and willing to put some time into customizing your phone and settings. Straight out of the store for the everyday user though, WP7 is definitely the best choice. The Xbox Live integration offers some good games for the casual gamer and they have all the standard apps like facebook and the like.
As said earlier, WP8 could be a complete game changer. Integrating phones/tablets with your PC to the extent it looks like they are trying to achieve with Windows 8/WP8 could absolutely blow away the market. With Windows ~92% market share in home PCs, who wouldn't want a phone that can share some apps and integrate and control aspects of your PC and access your network seamlessly via your phone?
I can't believe your headline. "Bored of" is grammatically incorrect. The correct usage is "bored WITH". This is as bad as if you'd written the head as "U ain't happy with ur iPhone"
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I just don't understand how Android is so complex? Specifically, what are these "young people" wanting to do that they can't figure out?
Really, the only complex thing I've done is root mine and that took a few minutes of Google research and 15 minutes of time on the phone. Before that it was working fine I just wanted to get rid of the bloatware, mainly. But other than that, Droid seems pretty straight forward to me.
Really, the only complex thing I've done is root mine and that took a few minutes of Google research and 15 minutes of time on the phone. Before that it was working fine I just wanted to get rid of the bloatware, mainly. But other than that, Droid seems pretty straight forward to me.
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What I'm bored with is locking into a 2-year contract for portable devices that are obsolete in 3 months and left dangling without firmware/OS updates for the other 21 months.
Android, iOS, WP7 are just means to an end. Hell the phone or tablet shouldn't even CARE what OS is loaded on it, nor should the carrier (although obviously they can't provide tech support for every variation under the sun).
Android, iOS, WP7 are just means to an end. Hell the phone or tablet shouldn't even CARE what OS is loaded on it, nor should the carrier (although obviously they can't provide tech support for every variation under the sun).
[citation][nom]wererat[/nom]What I'm bored with is locking into a 2-year contract for portable devices that are obsolete in 3 months and left dangling without firmware/OS updates for the other 21 months.[/citation]
You're not locked in at all. You can always pay full price ($500-$600) for the device and sell/trade it at any time. The reason you get the device at a discounted price is because you are amortizing the cost.
You're not locked in at all. You can always pay full price ($500-$600) for the device and sell/trade it at any time. The reason you get the device at a discounted price is because you are amortizing the cost.
i can't believe they said that people want to try something new regarding *microsoft*, and wp7.
what was that old say? oh yes, it goes AHAHAHAHA. the terms "new" and "different" do not apply to yet another iteration of the ubiquitous microsoft windows, even windows phone. and now that wp7 has been given that "killer feature", you know, copy and paste, how can it possibly fail? *cough* rushed *cough*.
and, you all, will find that young people do not particularly want something colorful, something made by apple, or powered by wp7 or linux. young people want whatever their peer group think is the best toy of the moment. you should know that. you should remember.
people forget that *smart phones are computers*, and that most people are either technophobic/computer illiterate or barely literate. only *proficient adults* make the most out of smart phones; by and large, the rest of the adults tend to divide in two groups: the trend followers and the cash-strapped. there's nothing they can do about the latter, but the first group will go with the fashionable youth.
if it was up to me to make a new phone succeed i'd go to several schools, i'd give young people a marketing questionnaire that serves two purposes: determine product awareness certainly, but mostly as the means to check them out; i'd identify the most fashionable, popular people and get them to trade their phone for ours (for free, obviously), throw in some time to demonstrate how to get to and use (or download) the currently most used functions and/or web apps/games. then, broadcast a couple of ads featuring the music and artists of the moment, press the point with some press-based ads, then stand back and watch it happen.
in short: invest money and work into seeding your product into select subgroups while simultaneously making them think they now owned the coolest thing to date. the world will follow.
what was that old say? oh yes, it goes AHAHAHAHA. the terms "new" and "different" do not apply to yet another iteration of the ubiquitous microsoft windows, even windows phone. and now that wp7 has been given that "killer feature", you know, copy and paste, how can it possibly fail? *cough* rushed *cough*.
and, you all, will find that young people do not particularly want something colorful, something made by apple, or powered by wp7 or linux. young people want whatever their peer group think is the best toy of the moment. you should know that. you should remember.
people forget that *smart phones are computers*, and that most people are either technophobic/computer illiterate or barely literate. only *proficient adults* make the most out of smart phones; by and large, the rest of the adults tend to divide in two groups: the trend followers and the cash-strapped. there's nothing they can do about the latter, but the first group will go with the fashionable youth.
if it was up to me to make a new phone succeed i'd go to several schools, i'd give young people a marketing questionnaire that serves two purposes: determine product awareness certainly, but mostly as the means to check them out; i'd identify the most fashionable, popular people and get them to trade their phone for ours (for free, obviously), throw in some time to demonstrate how to get to and use (or download) the currently most used functions and/or web apps/games. then, broadcast a couple of ads featuring the music and artists of the moment, press the point with some press-based ads, then stand back and watch it happen.
in short: invest money and work into seeding your product into select subgroups while simultaneously making them think they now owned the coolest thing to date. the world will follow.
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I've had a couple of iPhones (iPhone 3G, 3Gs, wife has a 4) and also owned a few Androids (Xperia X10, HTC Incredible). I have to say, I kind of agree with this, although I didn't find Android all that complicated. Right now I use a Samsung Focus with WP7 Mango - and am probably going to be buying one of those Lumia 800s. Honestly, I don't know anyone else with a Windows Phone - and haven't had as many people admiring / asking questions about my phone since I first got the iPhone 3G when it launched a few years ago. And in my opinion, WP7 is the easiest of the three phone operating systems for messaging / calling / doing actual phone things. And as for Angry Birds, I'll have a Transformer Prime in a few days for that...
Android complicated? lolwut
Android is pretty damn straightforward (in a good way) if you ask me.
Android is pretty damn straightforward (in a good way) if you ask me.
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