Nothing easy without cost: network powerline adapters EMI

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I am seeking advice, thanks.
I am using some powerline adapters to get "better" speed to my basement and kitchen. They do provide faster than wifi speed, at a cost, a ton of electrical noise, I'm not sure which, EMI or RFI. It is most noticeable when using headphones.

Here is the setup:
NAS->FiOS Router->ZyXEL Powerline PLA5205 Adapter->Computer (Gigabyte Gaming 5 motherboard with DACUP USB)->Audioquest Dragonfly->Audioquest Golden Gate Cable, 3 meter->NAD HP50 headphones

I can hear the noise, pops, crackles and clicking, in the headphones when no music is playing or during a quiet section of a track. When I unplug the network cable the noise completely goes away. Playing from a local drive is the same, noise when the network cable is plugged into the jack, quiet when unplugged. Furthermore, if I transfer a file to my NAS from the local drive or to my local drive from the NAS the line noise "intensifies." It is a bit louder and more of a consistent buzz. The motherboard has the so-called DACUP USB ports which supposedly supply "cleaner" power to the USB ports over conventional USB ports.

What have I tried? Not much, but here is some data.

NOISE:
1. I tried a ferrite clamp on the network cable - no effect.
2. I tried different outlets for the powerline adapter (probably same circuit) - no effect.
3. I tried USB3 ports (non DACUP ports) - no effect.
4. 1/8" female/male 6 foot extension cable - no effect.
5. I plugged the powerline adapter into my surge protector. (It worked but at 1/2 the speed when plugged in the wall outlet.) - no effect

NO NOISE (but not a workable setup):
6. I temporarily moved my FiOS router to the basement to bypass the powerline adapter. (The NAS was disconnected so I could not test file transfer noise.) The line is silent, all conditions.
7. Stock headphone cable (too short to use without extension) and "lower quality" 1/8" inch cable. The line is silent, all conditions.
8. Cheap external powered computer speakers - no EMI/RFI. The line is silent, all conditions.


What can I do to eliminate the noise but not filter out the throughput of the powerline adapter?
A power conditioner? (Hopefully inexpensive, i.e., <$100)
A network switch between the powerline and my computer? (Hopefully inexpensive too)
String RJ45 along the floor about 60 feet? Yuk. I cannot string cable though walls, so if I have to use a direct line, it will be very long and tacked down along the floorboard, doorways, and stairs - not cool.

Thanks for your help!!
 
I take it your headphones are connected via USB?

What power supply do you have?

If you connect the network cable between the powerline adapter and another ethernet device (a laptop or something) while leaving it in the same power socket, do you still get noise?
 


The headphones are connected to a USB DAC, the Audioquest Dragonfly. There is a standard 1/8 output on the Dragonfly DAC which I connect to the headphones with stock or Audioquest 1/8 to 1/8 analog cables.



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Nice idea! A new experiment! I have not tried this yet. I'll give it a shot. My guess, there will still be noise...

 
The powerline network cable connected to the laptop displays the exact same EMI noise, worse even. So it is definitely the powerline adapter.
 
UPDATE:

I may have a ground loop issue! I used a cheater plug on the 3-prong powerline adapter and it eliminated all the noise, even during file transfers when the noise was the worst.

So, now what? Do I need an electrician? Is it unsafe to leave the cheater plug attached?

At least I found the source of the noise. Now how can I fix it?