Providing ESN for an ebay phone

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In article <55dc0873a3f525fb0e93b6e5673a9871@news.teranews.com>,
O/Siris <osiris@sprintpcs.com> wrote:

> In article <rmarkoff-49D293.17182929042004
> @news04.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
> > Is there any reason there could be a problem with a New still sealed in
> > the box phone?
> >
>
> Yeah. Sealing machines are not terribly expensive. Plus, the ESN is
> on the box. A customer/scammer who is familiar with a real process
> can fake a scam one.

A resealed box is not a "New still sealed in the box phone", although in
some cases it could look like one. But its easy to separate someone who
sells 5 items a year on eBay, has been a memeber for years and is
selling a phone, from someone who sells 50 phones a month!

So the question remains. If it is reasonable to assume it really is a
new sealed in the box phone, how could that be a problem?

 

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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message news:<rmarkoff-17F747.04501130042004@news04.east.earthlink.net>...
> In article <55dc0873a3f525fb0e93b6e5673a9871@news.teranews.com>,
> O/Siris <osiris@sprintpcs.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <rmarkoff-49D293.17182929042004
> > @news04.east.earthlink.net>, rmarkoff@msn.com says...
> > > Is there any reason there could be a problem with a New still sealed in
> > > the box phone?
> > >
> >
> > Yeah. Sealing machines are not terribly expensive. Plus, the ESN is
> > on the box. A customer/scammer who is familiar with a real process
> > can fake a scam one.
>
> A resealed box is not a "New still sealed in the box phone", although in
> some cases it could look like one. But its easy to separate someone who
> sells 5 items a year on eBay, has been a memeber for years and is
> selling a phone, from someone who sells 50 phones a month!
>
> So the question remains. If it is reasonable to assume it really is a
> new sealed in the box phone, how could that be a problem?

I'll post my answer again since you posted your question again.

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Yep, it could be stolen.

You steal a phone out of a store's inventory (or other means to get
unopened boxes, such as 3rd party, from UPS etc..), they know what
serial numbers are missing, they flag the ESNs as 'stolen'. The phone
can still be sealed, but can be a locked out ESN.

Besides, even if the seller says it's sealed, there's no proof until
you recieve it.
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In article <7e761144.0404291813.2d7bbbcc@posting.google.com>,
pcsguy@bellsouth.net (TechGeek) wrote:

> > Is there any reason there could be a problem with a New still sealed in
> > the box phone?
>
> Yep, it could be stolen.

You be correct. Thank you.

With ebay, look at the volume. Someone who's been a member for years,
sells 5 items a year, and never sold a phone before is more likely to be
honest than someone who's been a member for 6 weeks, has sold 30 phones,
and has 10 for sale currently, 5 each of two models.

>
> You steal a phone out of a store's inventory (or other means to get
> unopened boxes, such as 3rd party, from UPS etc..), they know what
> serial numbers are missing, they flag the ESNs as 'stolen'. The phone
> can still be sealed, but can be a locked out ESN.
>
> Besides, even if the seller says it's sealed, there's no proof until
> you recieve it.
>
> While there are honest sellers on EBay, there are a lot of dishonest
> buyers. Check feedback thoroughly, look for consistancies in the
> feedback, 20 people leaving identical positive feedback all with
> ratings of 1 or 2 are suspicious to me.