Really DARK TV after HDR10 Enable.

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Quick question. After I enabled HDR and Advanced Colors my TV became REALLY dark. I thought because HDR streams sending how each pixel should be lit I'll have nice picture when actual movie will be played, but nothing happed all I see is a movie on this really dark screen. What I am missing ?

For years I've been using PowerDVD because of it's ability to play nice with everything I trow at it. Dynamic resolution change or HD 7.1 audio when it just became a thing, I never had any problems. But not this time I really thought PowerDVD will take exclusive control over my TV and ajust everything it needed just like before it did. But nothing happening.
Like before I actually saw TV blinking when powerdvd took control and picture changed or resolution changed etc, basically before TV was controlled with my player and not what I setup in Nvidia settings, it did what it needed to give me best quality and did all ajustments.

If possible can you recommend something because according to all settings I see my PC and my TV HDR connection is enabled and ready to rock'n roll. Why I am looking at dark screen ?

Here is DXDiag and my specs.

PC, 1080ti connected via really good HDMI cable to VSX-101 AVR and then to TV. On TV side I have UHD turned on and according info page on TV it's receiving UHD HDR from HDMI1 , that's my HDMI from PC.

As a player I use PowerDVD. I also tried VLC, MPC-HC and Windows 10 Video player.

DxDiag for TV part only, no monitors:

Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_1B06&SUBSYS_63903842&REV_A1
Device Status: 0180200A [DN_DRIVER_LOADED|DN_STARTED|DN_DISABLEABLE|DN_NT_ENUMERATOR|DN_NT_DRIVER]
Device Problem Code: No Problem
Driver Problem Code: Unknown
Display Memory: 27362 MB
Dedicated Memory: 11025 MB
Shared Memory: 16337 MB
Current Mode: 3840 x 2160 (32 bit) (60Hz)
HDR Support: Supported
Display Topology: Extend
Display Color Space: DXGI_COLOR_SPACE_RGB_FULL_G2084_NONE_P2020
Color Primaries: Red(0.659680,0.340344), Green(0.244641,0.670422), Blue(0.130383,0.040539), White Point(0.313000,0.329602)
Display Luminance: Min Luminance = 0.010000, Max Luminance = 1499.000000, MaxFullFrameLuminance = 799.000000
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: AV Receiver
Monitor Id: PIO1058
Native Mode: 3840 x 2160(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Monitor Advanced Color Capabilities: BT2020RGB BT2020YCC Eotf2084Supported AdvancedColorSupported AdvancedColorEnabled
Display Pixel Format: DISPLAYCONFIG_PIXELFORMAT_NONGDI
Driver Name: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_95d88c9d04436846\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_95d88c9d04436846\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_95d88c9d04436846\nvldumdx.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\nv_dispi.inf_amd64_95d88c9d04436846\nvldumdx.dll
Driver File Version: 23.21.0013.9124 (English)
Driver Version: 23.21.13.9124
DDI Version: 12
Feature Levels: 12_1,12_0,11_1,11_0,10_1,10_0,9_3,9_2,9_1
Driver Model: WDDM 2.3
Graphics Preemption: Pixel
Compute Preemption: Dispatch
Miracast: Not Supported by Graphics driver
Hybrid Graphics GPU: Not Supported
Power P-states: Not Supported
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 3/14/2018 8:00:00 PM, 949016 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: Unknown
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-5846-11CF-5678-9D431BC2DA35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x1B06
SubSys ID: 0x63903842
Revision ID: 0x00A1
Driver Strong Name: oem4.inf:0f066de35d9aeff6:Section118:23.21.13.9124:pci\ven_10de&dev_1b06
Rank Of Driver: 0DD12001
Video Accel:
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D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
MPO MaxPlanes: 1
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MPO Media Hints: Not Supported
MPO Formats: Not Supported
PanelFitter Caps: Not Supported
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Yeah I went to Microsoft and it looks like it's Microsoft Bug. I don't know if it's possible to RUN HDR content from Windows 10 PC at all at the moment because of this dull / dark UI.

Take a look here
https://thewincentral.com/windows-10-redstone-4-changes-new-features-28978/

Basically they're finnnaly (it's been almost a year with this problem) they're fixing it.

Adjust the brightness of SDR content on your HDR display: Starting with Build 17040, Windows now lets you adjust how bright SDR content appears when running in HDR mode on the desktop. On an HDR capable system, you will see a slider in the “HDR and advanced color settings” page under Settings > System > Display. This is one of the improvements to HDR image quality that we have planned based on feedback from Insiders.

Because UI and Windows in General considered SDR content they don't know how to show it when HDR TV is connected and HDR Advanced colors are used on TV as a monitor.

I guess I answered my own question.

Also BFG-9000 , yeah same here for some reason mu MU9000 came with HDR / UHD disabled on all HDMI ports , you have to enable them otherwise you will not get it , even with right hardware.

Back to $200 Nvidia Shield that plays perfect HDR 4K and Atmos 7.1 Master tracks via my AVR.
 

guanyu210379

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GTX1080TI should not have issues with HDR if you have the latest driver and if your Win10 is up2date (HDR is only for Win10)

1. Is the TV HDR10 compatible and is the TV an HDR TV?
2. To play HDR movies: Is the movie HDR is recordedd in HDR? Is the player software HDR capable?
3. Regardless of which HDR standard e.g. HDR10, DolbyVision, etc., HDR technology is still on it's infancy state especially on the TV side (panel). Stupid stuffs may and will appear.
 

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My OLED TV specifically requires Dynamic Contrast to be enabled if using Active HDR, because otherwise everything not HDR will look too dark. So this may be completely normal.
 

XAKEP

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Yeah I went to Microsoft and it looks like it's Microsoft Bug. I don't know if it's possible to RUN HDR content from Windows 10 PC at all at the moment because of this dull / dark UI.

Take a look here
https://thewincentral.com/windows-10-redstone-4-changes-new-features-28978/

Basically they're finnnaly (it's been almost a year with this problem) they're fixing it.

Adjust the brightness of SDR content on your HDR display: Starting with Build 17040, Windows now lets you adjust how bright SDR content appears when running in HDR mode on the desktop. On an HDR capable system, you will see a slider in the “HDR and advanced color settings” page under Settings > System > Display. This is one of the improvements to HDR image quality that we have planned based on feedback from Insiders.

Because UI and Windows in General considered SDR content they don't know how to show it when HDR TV is connected and HDR Advanced colors are used on TV as a monitor.

I guess I answered my own question.

Also BFG-9000 , yeah same here for some reason mu MU9000 came with HDR / UHD disabled on all HDMI ports , you have to enable them otherwise you will not get it , even with right hardware.

Back to $200 Nvidia Shield that plays perfect HDR 4K and Atmos 7.1 Master tracks via my AVR.
 
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