Sager NP9377 (Clevo P377SM-A) VS MSI GS60 2PE Ghost Pro 3K Edition

[MAUS2]

I WANT TO BUY A GAMING LAPTOP AND I WOUNDER WHICH LAPTOP IS BEST FOR ME AND I CAN USE HIM TO NEXT FEW YEARS
MSI

CPU

The latest 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor


OS

Windows 8.1


Memory

DDR3L,up to 1600 MHz, slot *2, max 16GB


LCD Size

15.6" 3K wide-view LCD display


Graphics

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 870M


Graphics VRAM

GDDR5 6GB/3GB


HDD (GB)

Up to 256GB Super RAID + 1TB HDD 7200rpm


Audio

Sound by Dynaudio


Webcam

FHD type (30fps@1080p)


Card Reader

SD4.0 (XC/HC)


LAN

Killer™ E2200 LAN


Wireless LAN

802.11ac


Bluetooth

4.0


HDMI

v1.4b


USB 3.0 port

3


Mini-DisplayPort

v1.2x1


Mic-in/Headphone-out

1/1


AC Adapter

150W


Battery

6-Cell Li-Polymer(4840mAh 52Wh)


Dimension

390 x 266 x 19.9mm


Weight (KG)

1.96kg(w/ battery)

SAGER

Display: 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080)
Processor: Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4810MQ (2.8GHz - 3.8GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache)
Ram: 8GB DDR3 1600MHz [1x8GB] Dual Channel Memory
Graphics Video Card: NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 870M (6.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable]
Primary Hard Drive: 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s]
Camera: Integrated Digital Video Camera
Memory Card Reader: Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
Optical Drive Bay: Remove DVDRW Drive and Install Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy Only
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
Wireless Network: Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ 4.0'

THE SAGER HAS SLI AND UPDATEABLE GPU

 

[trogdor796]

Just remember that gaming laptops can't really be upgraded later, and in the rare cases they can be, it's really hard and expensive. I know you list that GPU is upgradeable, but it's not really convenient.

Because of this, get as good of things now as you can. I'd get the best GPU available, as that will be the weakest link in a laptop. The 870M is good, but the 880M is a lot better, although it costs way more. But would you rather replace the laptop sooner or spend a bit more up front? Just remember that laptop graphics cards DO NOT equal their desktop counterparts. They are weaker so they generate less heat and use less power.

CPU will be fine as long as you get the latest generation i7 quad core like the one you have selected. I wouldn't pay hundreds more for a slightly higher clock speed.

RAM is one thing that is really easy to change, as is Hard Drive, so I wouldn't worry to much about that. 8GB of RAM would be good for now, I might consider 16 but not necessary. I would consider a SSD though, you will thank me later

As for that brand, SAGER is a really good laptop maker and uses quality parts and cooling systems. They would be my choice when getting a gaming laptop. Just remember that you always pay a lot more for a gaming laptop than a desktop, as you are paying for the portability. A $1200 desktop will outperform a $2000 gaming laptop. I always advise to only get a gaming laptop if you need the mobility.

 

[MAUS2]

so you prefer a laptop with the 880m then this two?
that msi is good then the sager?
msi


CPU

The latest 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor


OS

Windows 8.1


Chipset

Intel HM87 Chipset


Memory

DDR3L,up to 1600 MHz, slot *4, max 32GB


LCD Size

15.6" 3K Wide-viewing


Graphics

Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M


Graphics VRAM

GDDR5 8GB/4GB


HDD (GB)

Up to 384GB Super RAID 2 + 750GB HDD 7200rpm


Optical Drive

BD Writer / BD Combo / DVD Super Multi


Audio

Sound by Dynaudio, 2x 2.1 channel speakers + subwoofer


Webcam

HD type (30fps@720p)


Card Reader

SD(XC/HC)


LAN

Killer™ E2200 Game Networking LAN


Wireless LAN

802.11 ac


Bluetooth

Bluetooth 4.0


HDMI

1(v1.4)


USB 2.0 port

1


USB 3.0 port

3


Mini-DisplayPort

2


Mic-in/Headphone-out

1/1


Line-in

1


Express Card

N/A


Keyboard

Full-color backlight SteelSeries keyboard


AC Adapter

180W


Battery

9 cells Li-Ion (7800mAH)


Dimension

395 x 267 x 55mm


Weight (KG)

3.5

 

[MAUS2]

Just remember that gaming laptops can't really be upgraded later, and in the rare cases they can be, it's really hard and expensive. I know you list that GPU is upgradeable, but it's not really convenient.

Because of this, get as good of things now as you can. I'd get the best GPU available, as that will be the weakest link in a laptop. The 870M is good, but the 880M is a lot better, although it costs way more. But would you rather replace the laptop sooner or spend a bit more up front? Just remember that laptop graphics cards DO NOT equal their desktop counterparts. They are weaker so they generate less heat and use less power.

CPU will be fine as long as you get the latest generation i7 quad core like the one you have selected. I wouldn't pay hundreds more for a slightly higher clock speed.

RAM is one thing that is really easy to change, as is Hard Drive, so I wouldn't worry to much about that. 8GB of RAM would be good for now, I might consider 16 but not necessary. I would consider a SSD though, you will thank me later

As for that brand, SAGER is a really good laptop maker and uses quality parts and cooling systems. They would be my choice when getting a gaming laptop. Just remember that you always pay a lot more for a gaming laptop than a desktop, as you are paying for the portability. A $1200 desktop will outperform a $2000 gaming laptop. I always advise to only get a gaming laptop if you need the mobility.

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MAUS2








so you prefer a laptop with the 880m then this two?
that msi is good then the sager?
msi


CPU

The latest 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor


OS

Windows 8.1


Chipset

Intel HM87 Chipset


Memory

DDR3L,up to 1600 MHz, slot *4, max 32GB


LCD Size

15.6" 3K Wide-viewing


Graphics

Nvidia GeForce GTX 880M


Graphics VRAM

GDDR5 8GB/4GB


HDD (GB)

Up to 384GB Super RAID 2 + 750GB HDD 7200rpm


Optical Drive

BD Writer / BD Combo / DVD Super Multi


Audio

Sound by Dynaudio, 2x 2.1 channel speakers + subwoofer


Webcam

HD type (30fps@720p)


Card Reader

SD(XC/HC)


LAN

Killer™ E2200 Game Networking LAN


Wireless LAN

802.11 ac


Bluetooth

Bluetooth 4.0


HDMI

1(v1.4)


USB 2.0 port

1


USB 3.0 port

3


Mini-DisplayPort

2


Mic-in/Headphone-out

1/1


Line-in

1


Express Card

N/A


Keyboard

Full-color backlight SteelSeries keyboard


AC Adapter

180W


Battery

9 cells Li-Ion (7800mAH)


Dimension

395 x 267 x 55mm


Weight (KG)

3.5

 

[trogdor796]

I didn't notice that the MSI had a 3K screen. Not even an 880M will run games good on that screen, and to be honest I think it's kind of pointless to get a 3K resolution on a screen that small. Plus I'm sure it adds to the cost. What does each laptop cost?

As for MSI itself, I think they are a good brand and would buy one of their laptops. That being said, Sager is probably a bit better in the cooling and overall quality department, but MSI is still good.

I would try to get a Sager with the 880M to be honest. 1080p screen is more suited to mobile cards, so I think a high end Sage with an 880M and 1080p screen would suit you well.

Links to these laptops(as well as prices) would help too.