As far as camera's go, I have been getting extremely good shots from the razr+. I dabble in photography, my DSLR hardly beats the macro shots this thing takes. They have released several camera updates. I have been really enjoying the camera on this pho ne. It's the form factor that limits the cameras. The bottom half of the phone is battery, top half motherboard, screen on each side, 3 camera's, obviously thats overly simplified but you get what I mean about how little sp ace there is for components compared to a standard style smartphone, plus the fact on how ridiculously thin the RAZR+ is when folded open. Same exact with the Flip 5. With both phones you are going to get very similar quality photographs, except you can't get the gorgeous macros that you get with the RAZR+.