The White House Speaks Out Against CISPA

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john_4

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The same White House that supports the TSA gestapo. Obama is a liar and nothing but smoke and mirrors yet there are plenty of fools willing to continue on the path of destruction this 5 trillion dollar deficit man does.
 

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.The same White House that supports the TSA gestapo. Obama is a liar and nothing but smoke and mirrors yet there are plenty of fools willing to continue on the path of destruction this 5 trillion dollar deficit man does

Calm down John, you will get to vote against him come November. Btw: when was the TSA created?
Anyway, we are going to get screwed sooner or later, because one of these crap will get through. People wanting to see this become law will be throwing a lot of money behind it and we all know that our congressmen and women will sell out to the highest bidder.
 

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jandrsn27

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He says he's against it, but will happily sign it on December 31st when no one is looking. It's funny that people haven't figured out this guy is a con artist yet. This is also coming from an avid 08 Obama supporter, sad to say this year I'm just not voting!
 

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CISPA is another attempt to undermine privacy and make it easier to track us regular people all around the country--and world. We are considered guilty until proven innocent, and it is increasingly expensive to prove innocence, unless one is rich. It is understandable to try to prevent another 9/11, but the focus of the issue should be on the incredible failures by the FBI and CIA when there was real, available intelligence. My 72 year-old experience is that most bureaucracies--and especially the military/intelligence overpaid--are filled with lazy folks who ignore information in front of their faces; and, tend to screw the pooch far more often than they should.

The TSA is OK most of the time, but it sure would be nice to get that ID card that would enable most of us to pass through without a hassle. The TSA folks did a very considerate job of helping my 97 year-old mother in her wheelchair through the security checkpoint in Philadelphia a few years back. My real complaint is the over-crowding in the airplanes, and the long lines of people with excessive luggage at check-in.
 

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Folks, pipe down. I am not an Obama supporter nor would I ever vote for him. However, you need to understand that any of these "Acts" are introduced by members of Congress. The president either signs it into law or vetoes it depending on Congressional support numbers (less than 2/3 support the president has veto power).

Do a little research on this "Act" before spewing Obama this or Republican that. You will find in fact that it was a GOP congressman who introduced this bill, which really is an amendment to a previous "Act." You can find out who all the co-sponsors are of this bill here:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3523

I see a lot of R's in there boys and girls. So before mindlessly lashing out at Obama, do some homework. There are plenty of valid things to be upset about at the current administration, but this certainly isn't one of them. I am behind the White House on this one. Pick your battles, folks.
 

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Politics is suppose to be good... But a lot of politicians SUCKS!!! and I mean a lot whatever their shapes, sizes and forms...!!!
 

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[citation][nom]yezster[/nom]Politics is suppose to be good... But a lot of politicians SUCKS!!! and I mean a lot whatever their shapes, sizes and forms...!!![/citation]
That has to be the most accurate response I've ever seen posted in response to an article here....
 

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[citation][nom]jahmekan[/nom]Calm down John, you will get to vote against him come November. Btw: when was the TSA created? Anyway, we are going to get screwed sooner or later, because one of these crap will get through. People wanting to see this become law will be throwing a lot of money behind it and we all know that our congressmen and women will sell out to the highest bidder.[/citation]

I don't think taking the attitude that "one of these crap will get through" is helpful at all; in fact, the biggest reason that something like this will get through is that people give up.

Whether a politician is crooked or honest, they all are required to maintain enough votes to stay in office. It is up to us to convince them they will lose their place in power if they go against our wishes. This isn't baseball, and we're not up against a pitcher that will strike us out some time in our career; we CAN bat 100% - but only if we stay in touch, stay informed, and keep our representatives on target.

;)
 

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[citation][nom]jandrsn27[/nom]He says he's against it, but will happily sign it on December 31st when no one is looking. It's funny that people haven't figured out this guy is a con artist yet. This is also coming from an avid 08 Obama supporter, sad to say this year I'm just not voting![/citation]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWdCKPtnYE
 

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[citation][nom]john_4[/nom]The same White House that supports the TSA gestapo. Obama is a liar and nothing but smoke and mirrors yet there are plenty of fools willing to continue on the path of destruction this 5 trillion dollar deficit man does.[/citation]
Does that make Bush the 7 trillion dollar deficit man? But really, he owns a much larger portion of it, seeing as it's his tax cuts (they're even called the Bush tax cuts) and the two wars he got us into that bled our economy dry. Iraq alone cost us $50,000,000,000 dollars every month. That's more money spent each month than NASA has spent over its entire history.

Gemini, Apollo, the Space Shuttle and ISS combined cost less than one month in Iraq. And what do we have to show for it? A populace that hates us and wants us gone, dramatically deteriorated world opinion of the US and another couple trillion dollars in debt.

What did we accomplish again over there? Because as I recall, the whole reason Bush started the war was the weapons of mass destruction that the UN told us weren't there, Iraq told us weren't there, and as it turns out, they weren't there.

But go right ahead blaming Obama for the deficit, clearly the few billion he's spent on bailouts and *gasp* health care are much, much worse than the trillions of dollars and thousands of lives Bush cost us.

I have no doubt that Bush will go down in history as one of the worst US Presidents, while Obama will probably just be forgotten outside being the first black POTUS.
 

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Pre-election propaganda?

To the outsider it looks like the White House is 'on our side', has some 'common sense'. I think however this is more to do with protecting corporate interests. The Federal Reserve has still to be audited, and Obama's approval rating has been awful. He needs something, anything, to dupe the masses and stay in the game. It's ok to spy on the public, just never turn the camera on Big Brother Incorporated, as they know best. Know your place and turn a blind eye, or else. [LOL]
 

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This is also coming from a country that cannot even protect it's own privacy (ref: Mexican border), and seems hell-bent on repealing the the Constitutional rights, freedoms and liberties of American citizens. The White House talks about freedom of expression? Oh, that must be why Obama has a propaganda army forever trawling websites, including messages boards, ready to react and 'target' political dissent. That's why it wishes to enact new laws facilitating increased spying on citizens - the British government is doing the same with their legislation (what a coincidence). All this can be backed up in their own words, not mine, not yours. Theirs. It's all in the name of keeping us safe. Just like the border with Mexico is supposed to be there to keep us safe from the problems coming across (cough).

Please, don't make me laugh with this "sacrificing the privacy of our citizens ". America's debt is owned by offshore interest, and the debt bubble continues to grow. Keeping American citizens in debt, enacting new laws in the name of security - and thus keeping them in their place - is the new industry. It's just that far too many American's are still gullible enough to fall for it especially when they do not even leave their own country aka climb the trees and see the forest once in a while. Meanwhile, the unquestionably controversial Cybersecurity Bill has already been endorsed by THIS administration. You could go on and on about just how at odds their claims of liberty are at odds with the dreams and promises of the American forefathers, and just how much freedom and prosperity Americans are actually losing as a result. This doesn't just affect America, naturally. It's a business interest.
 

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[citation][nom]10tacle[/nom]Folks, pipe down. I am not an Obama supporter nor would I ever vote for him. However, you need to understand that any of these "Acts" are introduced by members of Congress. The president either signs it into law or vetoes it depending on Congressional support numbers (less than 2/3 support the president has veto power).Do a little research on this "Act" before spewing Obama this or Republican that. You will find in fact that it was a GOP congressman who introduced this bill, which really is an amendment to a previous "Act." You can find out who all the co-sponsors are of this bill here:http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3523I see a lot of R's in there boys and girls. So before mindlessly lashing out at Obama, do some homework. There are plenty of valid things to be upset about at the current administration, but this certainly isn't one of them. I am behind the White House on this one. Pick your battles, folks.[/citation]

Translation: two cheeks of the same ass.
 
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