The Yahoo Giveaway USB Hub We Want

[joebob2000]

[citation][nom]Haserath[/nom]I don't see why anyone wouldn't want USB3.0. You can use old USB2.0 devices on it, it's 10X as fast, and it is able to power external devices with more juice. Imagine a small external SSD on USB3.0, Backing up 20GB worth of files could only take about 1 min and 40 seconds @ 200MB/s. In fact, my dad doesn't like to backup his files at his work very often, because it takes so long to do so. Until Dell and other big companies that sell computers to the masses decide it's time, I don't think we'll be seeing USB3.0 anytime soon.[/citation]

This is plain silly. For one, you would need a 200MB/sec disk in your laptop to read the files from if you want that kind of speed anyway, so the total solution would be super expensive. Also, SSDs havent really stood the test of time to say that storage for a year or two or ten won't result in random data corruption as transient charges zip around inside the disk. Lastly, backups aren't *supposed* to be fast. For professionals, all they care about is if it is fast enough to happen in the 12 or so hours overnight when everyone has gone home for the day. If you have 20GB of new data every night you need backed up, you really need to just work from a permanently backed up system.

 

[decepticon]

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[brendano257]

[citation][nom]Haserath[/nom]I don't see why anyone wouldn't want USB3.0. You can use old USB2.0 devices on it, it's 10X as fast, and it is able to power external devices with more juice. Imagine a small external SSD on USB3.0, Backing up 20GB worth of files could only take about 1 min and 40 seconds @ 200MB/s. In fact, my dad doesn't like to backup his files at his work very often, because it takes so long to do so. Until Dell and other big companies that sell computers to the masses decide it's time, I don't think we'll be seeing USB3.0 anytime soon.[/citation]


Price and lack of commonplace benefits. To truly make a difference, you'd have to replace everything. The problem is that there's no point to jump on the bandwagon at this point, there simply isn't many benefits to it. If I got a new motherboard tomorrow, and it came with USB3, I'd be happy, but am I going to get a new motherboard JUST because of USB3? No, there's no point to it yet.

 

[bildo123]

[citation][nom]joebob2000[/nom]When USB 1 came out, at 12 MBps it was good enough for mice and keyboards, but the external storage revolution was still a ways off. When USB 2 came out, it increased the speed of the spec 40 fold(!) and allowed for cheap, ubiquitous external storage. Now that 3.0 has come along, with it's paltry 8.3x speed increase, no one is in a huge hurry to support it. eSATA has jumped in the mix for external storage to take the heat of the sagging USB2 spec, so people who wanted faster options have it in a very convenient package.What is it about USB 3.0 that is supposed to win us over again? If you ask me this will be more of a ATA33 to ATA66/100 "upgrade"... there is more speed but no one really cares. The next best thing will be along soon (hopefully a meaningful, low cost Bluetooth based revolution). Why exactly is ANYONE selling a non-bluetooth wireless mouse considering bluetooth has been a standard feature on laptops for a long time, and a desktop dongle is only a few dollars? The next killer gizmo? Solar powered bluetooth wireless flash storage. Take it out of your pocket only when it needs some juice; get access to your data just by walking up to a PC. (security details to follow... for now lets just agree not to put anything too private on it, k?).[/citation]

1x20=20 20x2=40 Notice how the "multiplier, although smaller, still can make a big difference? Just because 2.0 to 3.0 wasn't a 40x leap, it still made a significant boost from an already inflated number. Basically you can have a joe blo flash drive run as fast as your current HDD. Of course it's new tech and needs time, but's it's still good stuff.

 

[icehot]

I've just upgraded to USB 3.0, just got a 2 port expansion card plus a docking station, and with the amount of data I back up it's very much worth every penny!!! My hard drives now run at full speed externally, before it might take 24 hours to do a full backup but now it's only a few hours. Brilliant!

 

[proxy711]

I find it funny people are saying esata has "jumped into" the mix of connections when its even less supported then USB3.0 and its been out so much longer.

No idea why all the hate for usb3.0 its faster and its backwards compatible with all other usb versions. people complaining about only a x8 bump in speed? do you know how much of a speed increase that is? when was the last time a new version of a cpu, gpu, or a hardrive was 8 times faster then the last generation? The last review of a usb3.0 thumb drive i read it was faster then a normal HDD.

 

[joebob2000]

[citation][nom]bildo123[/nom]1x20=20 20x2=40 Notice how the "multiplier, although smaller, still can make a big difference? Just because 2.0 to 3.0 wasn't a 40x leap, it still made a significant boost from an already inflated number. Basically you can have a joe blo flash drive run as fast as your current HDD. Of course it's new tech and needs time, but's it's still good stuff.[/citation]
Considering almost all flash drives today don't even come close to the USB2 speed; I will save my money for an upgrade when it's actually practical. Early adopters have at it, but for now you are paying for the bleeding edge and your returns are minimal (if any).

 

[Snipergod87]

USB 3.0 wil take awhile to be fully adopted. I dont understand why people say USB 2.0 is good enough or USB 3.0 isnt as big of a deal. USB has been a performance limitation for me since day 1, I moved over to firewire 400 which is faster then USB 2.0, then to eSATA, the thoughput of the USB interface is pathetic at best. USB 3.0 finally enables people to do backups for large transfers at a decent speed instead of waiting hours. Espically for those who dont have eSATA ports or a drive (which many dont).

But they really need to increase speeds of flash drives they are pathetically slow.. most people probably dont care, but IT professionals who have to transfers large files or do thin client image backups onto flash drives get pissed at slow speeds

 

[bustapr]

I liked the daisychain usb extensions alot more than this. Occupy less space and have all the USBs your comfortable with.

 

[Guest]

"people complaining about only a x8 bump in speed."

Calculate time in to that.
Then find a Processor from that time. Then one from today. Note the jump in performance, AND it takes huge CPU cycles. Ill wait for lightpeak as much as I hate intel.

 

[Guest]

Rather than start a holy-war over USB3.0 vs. USB2.0, why not just plug your USB3.0 stuff that needs the extra speed directly into one motherboard port and plug this FREE, funky, lego-like hub into another one and then use it for your slow-ass keyboard and mouse and to build lego-like stuff and such. Geez!

 

[JOSHSKORN]

Correction. USB 1.0 and 1.1 are oldschool. USB 2.0 will be oldschool in about 2-3 years, maybe. Are there even any USB 3.0 devices out there yet? Hardly. Therefore, 2.0 is still mainstream, definitely NOT 'oldschool'.

 

[shovenose]

go put ur retarded advertising where the sun dont shine...and ur not even trying to sell usb hubs?

 

[mindspring]

Nothing beats this hub v 2.0.

link

 

[mindspring]

Nothing beats this hub.
http://www.tomshardware.com/gallery/P1030715,0101-250191-0-2-3-1-jpg-.html

 

[hellogts]

Sorry, the next big thing is Light Peak, USB X.0 to it is like cassette to DVD.

 

[hellogts]

Sorry the next big thing is Light Peak. USB to it is like cassette to DVD

 

[wotan31]

[citation][nom]TommySch[/nom]Lets all jump on the USB 3.0 bandwagon only to realize that 95% of the USB devices that we have simply cannot push data any faster anyway!!![/citation]
You're joking, right? Ever heard of Firewire? Firewire 800 has been out for years, and it 2x to 3x faster than USB2, depending on what you're doing. Hard drives, DVD drives, flatbed scanners, all are MUCH faster when attached via the firewire bus. It has only partially to do with theoretical throughput - the other part of the equation is that Firewire uses DMA mode to move data, just like PATA and SATA do. USB on the other hand, uses the slow and antiquated IRQ interrupt mode. Firewire also provides more than 3x the amount of bus power that USB2 does, allowing multiple 7200 rpm drives to be run daisy chained and bus-powered from a single port.

USB was originally designed as a replacement for the serial port. You know, keyboards, mice, joysticks and such. It was never designed for moving bulk data, which is why it sucks so badly at it. USB3 is just a band-aid on a crappy poor-performing standard.