TIVO dead after power outage...

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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:15:23 GMT, theyak <yak@dev.null> wrote:

>In article <1155jk422m0hs85@corp.supernews.com>, dougs02
>@spamsux.pobox.com says...
>> Last night my electricity went out for a while. After the power came
>> back on my TIVO would no longer work (yes, it is on a surge protector).
>> Now all I get is a black screen. The green LED does come on, and I
>> can feel a vibration, either the fan or HD. When I use the remote, the
>> front panel LEDs respond, but nothing else happens, no sound or video.
>> I have tried unplugging it and still the same thing, nothing at all. It
>> is a series 2, with a second HD added.
>
>Ahh, but was the coax on a surge protector as well? And not the little
>cheapies from walmart, either. They do nothing. My guess, it's fried.
>
>
>>
>> Any ideas on A) what the problem is and B) what my option are. I am
>> assuming that with the second drive added, TIVO won't do anything for
>> it. I just purchased a lifetime subscription for this unit recently, so
>> I really can't just replace it.
>>
>
>No, you've voided your warranty, so tivo won't do anything with it. And
>yes, you'll have to replace it.

Last summer, I lost a S1 Tivo; cable modem; firewall/router; and the
NIC on my pc, after a lightning strike on my street burnt out the
whole power line down my street. But the only things damaged were the
things on the coax (or connected with cat 5).

I would suspect a surge on the coax as well.

-Martin O'B

 

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Until earthing path is identified, then one cannot assume
how damage occurred. A destructive transient seeks earth via
appliances. Only after the transient is passing through
everything in that path, then something fails.

For example, a properly installed coax is earthed where it
enters the building. Transient incoming on AC electric wire;
outgoing on coax. If both incoming and outgoing path does not
exist, then no damage. For example, the clock has an incoming
path - AC electric. But no outgoing path to earth. Therefore
clock is not damaged.

This assumes the coax was earthed - properly installed.
Inspection starts with earthing. How does a destructive
transient enter appliances via coax if the coax is earthed?
It does not. Why? Earthing (and not protectors) are the
protection.

How to avoid future damage? Earth incoming AC electric
wires (and all other utility wires). But if AC electric is
earthed directly (like the coax), then no electricity comes
from the utility. That is what a protector does. A 'whole
house' protector is located where AC mains enter the building
(ie circuit breaker box) to protect those coax appliances.
The 'whole house' protector earths AC electric transient.

Solution starts with facts. A destructive surge seeks earth
ground. Protection is the single point earth ground. Every
incoming utility wire must make a 'less than 10 foot'
connection to the same earth ground used by all incoming
utilities - the single point earth ground. Protectors being
only as effective as their earthing. Details provided in my
other post dated 5 Apr 2005.

Martin O'Brien wrote:
> Last summer, I lost a S1 Tivo; cable modem; firewall/router; and the
> NIC on my pc, after a lightning strike on my street burnt out the
> whole power line down my street. But the only things damaged were the
> things on the coax (or connected with cat 5).
>
> I would suspect a surge on the coax as well.
>
> -Martin O'B

 

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In article <425C73A5.B3563FFB@hotmail.com>, w_tom1@hotmail.com says...
>
> Until earthing path is identified, then one cannot assume
> how damage occurred. A destructive transient seeks earth via
> appliances. Only after the transient is passing through
> everything in that path, then something fails.
>
> For example, a properly installed coax is earthed where it
> enters the building. Transient incoming on AC electric wire;
> outgoing on coax. If both incoming and outgoing path does not
> exist, then no damage. For example, the clock has an incoming
> path - AC electric. But no outgoing path to earth. Therefore
> clock is not damaged.
>
> This assumes the coax was earthed - properly installed.
> Inspection starts with earthing. How does a destructive
> transient enter appliances via coax if the coax is earthed?
> It does not. Why? Earthing (and not protectors) are the
> protection.
>
> How to avoid future damage? Earth incoming AC electric
> wires (and all other utility wires). But if AC electric is
> earthed directly (like the coax), then no electricity comes
> from the utility. That is what a protector does. A 'whole
> house' protector is located where AC mains enter the building
> (ie circuit breaker box) to protect those coax appliances.
> The 'whole house' protector earths AC electric transient.
>
> Solution starts with facts. A destructive surge seeks earth
> ground. Protection is the single point earth ground. Every
> incoming utility wire must make a 'less than 10 foot'
> connection to the same earth ground used by all incoming
> utilities - the single point earth ground. Protectors being
> only as effective as their earthing. Details provided in my
> other post dated 5 Apr 2005.
>


Please post a scan of your electrician's license (I suppose a scan of
your electrical engineering degree would work, too).