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Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have commercials?
I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
Thanks.
 
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They don't





"JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have commercials?
> I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> Thanks.
>
>
 
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>> "JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
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> > Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have commercials?
> > I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> > Thanks.

>
"FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> They don't

Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that is
obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of money that
only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
 

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Randy Sweeney wrote:
>>>"JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
>
>>>Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have commercials?
>>>I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
>>>Thanks.
>
>
> "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
>
>>They don't
>
>
> Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that is
> obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of money that
> only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
>
>
Why would you be concerned? It is voluntary to purchase.
Clay
 
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"Badger" <Cferriola@triad.rr.123numbers.com> wrote in message
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> Randy Sweeney wrote:
> >>>"JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> >
> >>>Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have commercials?
> >>>I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> >>>Thanks.
> >
> >
> > "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> >
> >>They don't
> >
> >
> > Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that is
> > obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of money
that
> > only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
> >
> >
> Why would you be concerned? It is voluntary to purchase.
> Clay

buyer beware - sometimes you get what you pay for - or less.

The point being made previously that COMMERCIAL-FREE HD channels was a BIG
PLUS. - Maybe not.

"Commercial Free" begs the question...
how does a DBS system provide 20 commercial free HD channels (20% of its
total)?

Tanstaafl - There ain't no such thing as a free lunch - as Heinlein once
wrote.

Either

1. the monthly charges are sufficiently high to pay for quality programming
for the free channels (and we can see from the costs of HBO level quality
and others what this market rate is)

or

2. the content filling those 20 commericial free HD channels is incredibly
cheap.

or

3. the business model behind the offering is unstable and the commercial
free HD is subject to drastic (negative) changes in price, quality, or
quantity (after you have made a committment). HBO ran through a period of
this after Hollywood decided to raise the prices of movie rights to it...
HBO solved the issue by producing a higher and higher percentage of its own
content and then reversing the cable model by then selling its content to
others for DVD, broadcast and in some cases I believe, theater release. I
don't think that VOOM's parent is either solvent enough or smart enough for
this though.

Looking at the VOOM HD-Cinema 1 channel schedule for today,
I see Bikini Beach, Beach Blanket Bingo, The Land the Time Forgot, The
People that time forgot - four movies repeated over and over
on Cinema 2 - My life as a dog, The official story, Danton and the Circle -
four more movies of questionable merit
on Cinema 3 - August, Inherit the Wind, Just tell me what you want, Prince
of the City


Based on just these offerings for today... I'd be willing to guess that VOOM
has opted for either option #2 - cheap content. Maybe even with an option
for #3 in the future.
 
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"Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >> "JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> > > Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have
commercials?
> > > I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> > > Thanks.
>
> >
> "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > They don't
>
> Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that is
> obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of money
that
> only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.

Note the designation: pay channels.

Deborah Proctor
maraskywalker@earthink.net
 
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"Deborah Proctor" <maraskywalker@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:z9idnac0wa58vVfdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > >> "JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> > > > Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have
> commercials?
> > > > I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> > > > Thanks.
> >
> > >
> > "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > They don't
> >
> > Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that is
> > obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of money
> that
> > only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
>
> Note the designation: pay channels.
>
> Deborah Proctor
> maraskywalker@earthink.net

The "original" VOOM HD channels are included in the base service, they are
not "pay channels" such as HBO or SHOWTIME.
 

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Well, I had no problem with tv commercials years ago when there was some
balance between commercials and program material. These days, there are vast
amounts of commercials and badly cut-up programs to make room for them. A
late night movie can run "all night" because of commercials. Is this good?
Like hell. Why should anyone pay for all of this tv stuff and watch hours
and hours of commercials? I don't watch late tv anymore as it is!! The
kicker is, commercials don't improve the quality of programs offered, at
least not any more.
So... yes I'll take Voom's old movies WITHOUT commercials.



"Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:z9idnac0wa58vVfdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> >> "JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> > > Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have
commercials?
> > > I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> > > Thanks.
>
> >
> "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > They don't
>
> Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that is
> obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of money
that
> only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
>
>
 
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> "Commercial Free" begs the question...
> how does a DBS system provide 20 commercial free HD channels (20% of its
> total)?
>

Discovery HD doesn't have commercials, except for their own programming.
 
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<<Well, I had no problem with tv commercials years ago when there was some
balance between commercials and program material. These days, there are vast
amounts of commercials and badly cut-up programs to make room for them. A
late night movie can run "all night" because of commercials. Is this good?
Like hell. Why should anyone pay for all of this tv stuff and watch hours
and hours of commercials? I don't watch late tv anymore as it is!! The
kicker is, commercials don't improve the quality of programs offered, at
least not any more.>>

Amongst all the praise being heaped upon Ronald Reagan in the past week
(some deserved, some not), he is the man to thank for infomercials.
Program-length commercials were not permitted until the Reagan
administration's wide ranging efforts to deregulate industry. This
deregulation also set in motion the elimination of limits on the number of
minutes commercials allowed per hour of program content.

Lee


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With respect to commercials and ad time,that is why the TiVo service and
the coupling of DVR's has been a hot ticket item especially in the
satellite market.I hardly watch live TV anymore with respect to movies.I
just record it; when you come to an ad,I just "hyperspeed" through it in
fractions of SECONDS.You hardly notice it.The "hyperspeed" function is
also 3 times faster than the previous level which is considered normal
VHS VCR fast forward speed,which in itself is 9 times faster than play
speed.You also have the "30 second skip" which allows you to fast
forward in 30 second real time increments (and backspace the same amount
too).With these 2 tools,who in the heck CARES whether there are ads in
programming anymore.It relegates them to insignificance.I did not think
I would like it originally,but TiVo and DVR's are to television the
greatest thing since sliced bread (at least to me anyway).
 
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"Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Deborah Proctor" <maraskywalker@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4zJyc.2793$Wr.1510@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> >
> > "Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:z9idnac0wa58vVfdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > > >> "JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have
> > commercials?
> > > > > I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG plus.
> > > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > >
> > > "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > > They don't
> > >
> > > Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content that
is
> > > obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of
money
> > that
> > > only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
> >
> > Note the designation: pay channels.
> >
> > Deborah Proctor
> > maraskywalker@earthink.net
>
> The "original" VOOM HD channels are included in the base service, they are
> not "pay channels" such as HBO or SHOWTIME.

You still pay for their service do you not?

Deborah Proctor
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"Deborah Proctor" <maraskywalker@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > "Deborah Proctor" <maraskywalker@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:4zJyc.2793$Wr.1510@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > > "Randy Sweeney" <rsweeney1@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:z9idnac0wa58vVfdRVn_iw@comcast.com...
> > > > >> "JAS" <spin500@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:5R0yc.12$Jk5.9@lakeread02...
> > > > > > Can anyone tell me if the Voom "original" HD channels have
> > > commercials?
> > > > > > I have Direct TV, the HD channels have no commercials; a BIG
plus.
> > > > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > "FerdyPooh" <fredjr1@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:Y1iyc.2357$X92.729@bignews6.bellsouth.net...
> > > > > They don't
> > > >
> > > > Then one would have to be concerned as to the quality of content
that
> is
> > > > obtained and distributed so cheaply as to not require the kind of
> money
> > > that
> > > > only ads can bring and/or the future of such an arrangement.
> > >
> > > Note the designation: pay channels.
> > >
> > > Deborah Proctor
> > > maraskywalker@earthink.net
> >
> > The "original" VOOM HD channels are included in the base service, they
are
> > not "pay channels" such as HBO or SHOWTIME.
>
> You still pay for their service do you not?
>
> Deborah Proctor
> maraskywalker@earthlink.net

I pay for cable too... is HBO and Showtime free?