What Android Looked Like Right Before the iPhone Launched

[Guest]

RAMPANT DELUSION going on here! Google copied Yahoo with search, RIM with Android, then Apple with Android, all while stealing from all of them, plus Oracle and others.

Just accept it and move on.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]googlsteal[/nom]RAMPANT DELUSION going on here! Google copied Yahoo with search, RIM with Android, then Apple with Android, all while stealing from all of them, plus Oracle and others.Just accept it and move on.[/citation]

Your deluded and you don't have a clue about the history at all if that is what you believe.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]wind82[/nom]Apple did not innovate anything with the iphone .The smart phone very much would have existed as it is today because iphone is no more then an apple version of the windows phone. The windows phone is no more then a pocket pc with a cellular modem stuffed inside. The pocket pc platform started development in 1995 with windows ce . Pocket pc devices were released around the time of the ill fated palm pilot . please research things before you post stupid misleading comments . The only thing apple innovates is the amount of money they pocket .[/citation]
Apple was the first introduced something on a smart-phone with the iPhone that almost all of them have it today. A multi touch capable touch screen. This enabled the introduction of gestures that tons of smart-phones today use. To say that they didn't changed the market is ignorance to say the least. But I'm not taking credit from the smart-phones that came before the iPhone, in fact if they didn't existed then the iPhone would have been something quite different.

 

[robochump]

Because Apple is a dominant company there will be haters. Most will not admit that Apple in many ways revolutionized the cell phone market because Apple simply released a better product. Perfect? No. But no smart phone at the time of the first iPhone offered Apps, ease of use, touch screen typing that worked very well, music support through iTunes to name a few things. iPhone was the catalyst that pushed smart phones over the edge to mainstream.

iPad, yeah. Where was the tablet market before the iPad? Did any of you geniuses know Apple did in fact build a tablet back in 1979? Then again in 1992 called Newton? Haters are gonna hate...lol.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]First Android was basically a BB clone now an iOS clone...heh. Though competition will make both better.[/citation]
[citation][nom]Seanreisk[/nom]I use an Android phone and I have four Windows PC. I don't own a single Apple product. However, I've had to support both PCs and Macintosh's for the last 20 years, and I know the history from both sides of the aisle. Apple innovates more than any other company, and if they don't explicitly invent something, they do something much more important - the make technology work properly so that people want it. And after Apple proves that their designs make for a successful product, other companies come in and copy it. Apple didn't invent the cell phone, but the first iPhone set the template for the future of cell phone design. But all of these idiots (like wind82) saying that Apple copied the Pocket PC and the Palm ... Does anyone remember the Newton? Does anyone else remember that the term 'PDA' was created at Apple?[/citation]
Apple was the first to coin the name PDA, but it wasn't the first to create a "PDA".

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]robochump[/nom]Because Apple is a dominant company there will be haters. Most will not admit that Apple in many ways revolutionized the cell phone market because Apple simply released a better product. Perfect? No. But no smart phone at the time of the first iPhone offered Apps, ease of use, touch screen typing that worked very well, music support through iTunes to name a few things. iPhone was the catalyst that pushed smart phones over the edge to mainstream.iPad, yeah. Where was the tablet market before the iPad? Did any of you geniuses know Apple did in fact build a tablet back in 1979? Then again in 1992 called Newton? Haters are gonna hate...lol.[/citation]
You're referring to the Apple Graphics Tablet, and that wasn't a tablet computer simply because it wasn't a computer. It's capture graphics tablet like the ones sold from Wacom. Apple began the development of a tablet computer in 87 and the prototype was shown quite a few years later. Before Apple even started developing the Newton platform, commercial tablet computers were already on sale.

 

[del35]

The interesting thing is how the industry reacted to the iPhone:

I am more interested in how the media reacted to the iPhone. The media went gaga after all of Mr Jobs backroom handshaking and nefarious deals with the record industry.

 

[Guest]

Interesting nobody bothered to mention the Newton when talking about historic handheld computing devices.

 

[azetec]

All these smartphones models are made by HTC:
released in year 2004:
Orange SPV M500
T-Mobile MDA Compact

released in year 2005:
Vodafone VPA Compact
Orange SPV M600
T-Mobile MDA Compact II

released in year 2006:
Vodafone VPA Compact GPS
Orange SPV M650
Orange SPV M700
Orange SPV M3100
T-Mobile MDA Compact III
T-Mobile Wing
Cingular 8525

Guys just keep in mind that there are many Apple employes which post pro Apple comments on sites like these trying to deceive people like you, they are among the biggest deceivers.
If you wanna know who is the biggest deceiver just read the Bible and you'll find that Satan is.
Ironically this doesn't seem to be the first time when Satan is using an Apple trying to deceive humanity.

 

[Guest]

Wow, this is old news. Checkout "Inside the Nexus". Google developed two phones in parallel: the Sooner (seen above) and the Dream (touchscreen, sensors, etc). Prior to the appl phone they had intended to put out the Sooner first to give devs a platform to work from and when it was ready, they put out the Dream (the platform allowed apps to switch from nontouchscreen to touchscreen). So, Appl pushed the industry forward about, oh, say, one or two years?

 

[zippyzion]

I have said it before and I'll say it again. The only thing the original iPhone had was a multi touch display and an app store. Apple has done nothing since to improve in any massive or useful way. Build 1.0 of iOS and whatever they are up to now are minimally different. Sure some new features and new apps have been added but it still works basically the same. As far as this is concerned Google is doing much more to try to innovative than Apple. Google is trying new things with every new version and getting a lot of them right. Apple is just sticking with what works and revising hardware. I'm not sure you can call that innovation. The last thing Apple did to try to innovative was add Siri. Turned out to be a funny voice that talks to you as anything Siri can do you could also do with voice recognition software from most other feature and smart phones. Apple will fail as a handset maker if it can not regain the momentum it once had. The iPhone 4s was a poor excuse for an update. They changed a couple things and did not address any of the faults of the design. They still haven't put an SD card slot on it or added 4g. Both are pretty much a given on most of their competition. Go Android. Apple can get bent.

 

[zak_mckraken]

[citation][nom]nuvon[/nom]I am not an Apple fanboy, but you Apple haters have to admit that, all the smart phones these days follow iPhone one way or another, if not copy[/citation]
I am not an Toyota fanboy, but you Toyota haters have to admit that, all the cars these days follow Corolla one way or another, if not copy.

Does that sentence makes sense to you? There is such a thing as a standard. Apple certainly have popularized it, but they didn't invent anything that wasn't out there.

 

[jabliese]

azetec, I'm not sure what your point is. There were many smartphones before the iPhone, but most had a deal killing fault. Apple pulled a lot of features together in the iPhone.
Battery life that would get you through the day.
A phone that worked.
An understandable interface.
In case anyone is actually following azetec's exhaustive list, read reviews on those phones, they will fail one of the 3 above categories.

Arthur C Clarke patented the geosynchronous satellite. Does that mean NASA is an evil minion of Satan for copying his idea, and actually doing the hard work that made the idea reality?

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]jabliese[/nom]azetec, I'm not sure what your point is. There were many smartphones before the iPhone, but most had a deal killing fault. Apple pulled a lot of features together in the iPhone.Battery life that would get you through the day.A phone that worked.An understandable interface.In case anyone is actually following azetec's exhaustive list, read reviews on those phones, they will fail one of the 3 above categories.Arthur C Clarke patented the geosynchronous satellite. Does that mean NASA is an evil minion of Satan for copying his idea, and actually doing the hard work that made the idea reality?[/citation]
First Arthur C Clarke didn't patented GPS even though he did predict it. Which is quite different from the case of smartphones where tons of devices were available for more than a decade before the introduction of the iPhone.

Also I've been using smartphones long before the iPhone from several brands, and all of them had a battery that lasted more than a day, always worked and the interface was understandable.

 

[blazorthon]

[citation][nom]zippyzion[/nom]I have said it before and I'll say it again. The only thing the original iPhone had was a multi touch display and an app store. Apple has done nothing since to improve in any massive or useful way. Build 1.0 of iOS and whatever they are up to now are minimally different. Sure some new features and new apps have been added but it still works basically the same. As far as this is concerned Google is doing much more to try to innovative than Apple. Google is trying new things with every new version and getting a lot of them right. Apple is just sticking with what works and revising hardware. I'm not sure you can call that innovation. The last thing Apple did to try to innovative was add Siri. Turned out to be a funny voice that talks to you as anything Siri can do you could also do with voice recognition software from most other feature and smart phones. Apple will fail as a handset maker if it can not regain the momentum it once had. The iPhone 4s was a poor excuse for an update. They changed a couple things and did not address any of the faults of the design. They still haven't put an SD card slot on it or added 4g. Both are pretty much a given on most of their competition. Go Android. Apple can get bent.[/citation]

Exactly. Apple's innovation was in that they got people to forget about everything else and that they had the app store and multi-touch display. Sure, it's innovation, but not a whole lot. It's not like they invented the display or they invented software or even if they invented the rest of the hardware.

 

[the_brute]

[citation][nom]azetec[/nom]You should all do a reality check and see that companies like Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony, Nokia and Motorola are in telecommunication business and some of them producing mobile phones since 1981. From 1981 till 2007 all these companies have produced hundreds of mobile phones models and have sold billions of units worldwide before Apple was ever thinking of producing a mobile phone in 2007.In contrast Apple was not a telecommunication company like the others and had zero history or research & development put in the field of developing mobile phones. So in 2007 Apple just copied all the technology they could have found in all other mobile phones and smart devices, and with all that stolen knowledge and technology they have created the iPhone.Obviously they couldn't have been innovative in any way with their first mobile phone since all the technology was stolen from others, Apple's iPhone was nothing but a copycat.If you wanna see what models of mobile phones, smartphones or smart devices did Apple just copied with their iPhone just check the following list of models that were produced way before the year 2007 when the first iPhone was released:- remember the Compaq iPaq models released since year 2000 upwards- then the old HP iPaq models released since year 2004 upwards, running on Windows Mobile featuring touchscreen displays with hand write recognition models: HP iPAQ h6320, HP iPAQ h6325, HP iPAQ rw6818, HP iPAQ rw6815, HP iPAQ rw6828 - Motorola models released since year 2004: Motorola A1000, Motorola A1010, Motorola ROKR E6, all smartphones with big touchscreen displays - many HTC models based on Windows Mobile started from year 2002 upwards, including the first Windows Mobile phone released to marked, here are some model examples since year 2006: HTC P3300, HTC TyTN, HTC P3600 they are all smartphones with big touchscreen displays and hand write recognition- in 2004 Samsung released a Windows Mobile phone model Samsung i700, again a smartphone with big touchscreen display- Nokia Comunicator series released since 1998 models: Nokia 9000 Communicator, Nokia 9210i Communicator, Nokia 7710 touchscreen display, Nokia N95 they are all smartphones with big displays - model from year 2006: LG KE850 Prada again with big touchscreen display- model from year 2006: Philips S900For the ignorants just check the above mentioned models to see how much iPhone resembles them in look and functionality.[/citation]
sorry i had to repost this because its correct.
Apple did speed up the "smart phone" by making it "cool" sooner than it might have. I do give them credit for this but it was going to happen one way or another.

Yes it looks close to the then popular BB at the time, because either they didnt forsee the Apple project taking off so well or they thought that design would be more popular. (or they didnt findout until later in their production cycle and wanted to continue their current product.)

 

[Multifarious]

also, on the multy-touch interface.. I was surprised people were head over heels about how apple had 'invented' this, while I was having a hard-on over all the Microsoft Surface demo video's that were doing the rounds on the web for about two years before iphone.. (IIRC).

And also, one thing I saw clearly, and have been seeing for over 20 years now, Apple owns the hype machine. Where the whole corporate world was working with MS Windows, media buros have always sworn by Apple Mac. You will be hard pressed to find a commercial media studio which is not 90% apple based, And these are the people that make and break the hypes.

 

[Multifarious]

oops.. was I flogging a dead horse...

 

[Guest]

Look guys, Apple didn't invent the smart phone, that's just ridiculous. BUT, I don't remember seeing stylus-free interfaces that worked before the iPhone. They also took the existing designs, hardware and GUI, and gave it STYLE.

THAT'S Apple's contribution, for which I'm thankful. What they're doing now, on the other hand, law suits etc, is just very sad. But they did have a huge impact on the direction smart pones developed in. It's OK to admit that, doesn't mean you're an Apple fan boy. Just as admitting a design patent on rounded corners is ludicrous. Doesn't mean you're a Samsung/Android fan boy.

Look back at Windows mobile etc and be glad Apple mixed up the market. Good for everyone except Nokia and Symbian

 

[xpeh]

[citation][nom]Anonymous[/nom]Look guys, Apple didn't invent the smart phone, that's just ridiculous. BUT, I don't remember seeing stylus-free interfaces that worked before the iPhone. They also took the existing designs, hardware and GUI, and gave it STYLE.THAT'S Apple's contribution, for which I'm thankful. What they're doing now, on the other hand, law suits etc, is just very sad. But they did have a huge impact on the direction smart pones developed in. It's OK to admit that, doesn't mean you're an Apple fan boy. Just as admitting a design patent on rounded corners is ludicrous. Doesn't mean you're a Samsung/Android fan boy.Look back at Windows mobile etc and be glad Apple mixed up the market. Good for everyone except Nokia and Symbian[/citation]

I personally use my phone for productivity, not because it looks stylish. If Apple hadn't patented the rectangle, there would have been more phones far sexier than the iPhone.