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"Bill KB3GUN" <kb3gun@swronline.com> wrote in message
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> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> GT <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Got my EOS 350d a few months back and took it on holiday to a sunny
>>>> place
>>>> and all bright sunshine shots are over exposed by at least 2 stops!
>>>> Obviously I compensated at the time by turning down the exposure by 2
>>>> stops,
>>>> but why do I need to do this. I chose Sunshine for the white balance
>>>> and was
>>>> using ISO 100 or 200.
>>>>
>>>> All shots were RAW, so I can adjust them on the PC, but you can only
>>>> adjust
>>>> so far from the original!
>>>>
>>>> The only way I could get decent pics was to use the full manual mode
>>>> (normally prefer P for holiday snaps) and play around with the aperture
>>>> and
>>>> shutter speed to below -2 stops, which takes far too long for holiday
>>>> snaps
>>>> at the zoo and around the campsite.
>>>>
>>>> What am I doing wrong?
>>>>
>>>> How do I use the custom white balance setting. I have read the manual,
>>>> but
>>>> can't get anywhere!
>>>
>>> It would help to know the specifics of the shooting situation. Were you
>>> trying to take a pic of someone backlit by a brightly-lit sky? Are these
>>> bright spots you refer to reflections off glass or water? Is your
>>> camera's metering set to multi-zone, center-weighted, or spot? Was EV
>>> set to +2 and you didn't know it? Were you trying to photograph nuclear
>>> explosions? :)
>>
>> Didn't spot any nuclear explosions at the zoo, but if there were any, I
>> would probably have tried to take photographs, but the EMP from the
>> explosion would probably have knocked out the electronics (aside from the
>> fact that I would be dead!)! No - just typical holiday shots - people in
>> sunshine, a trip to the zoo, so close + distant animals/subjects in
>> sunshine. Photographing a generally bright image and totally over
>> exposed. I am fairly new to the digital side of photography, but have had
>> my old film-based EOS for years. I did try changing the metering, but I
>> don't think it really made much difference. The camera behaves perfectly
>> for other types of shots - metering is perfect, no light or dark spots,
>> its just really bright sunshine that causes a problem. I'll have another
>> play in August when we go over to France again, trouble is we have a new
>> baby and I'm missing, or messing up photo opportunities on his first
>> holiday(s) here! Don't get much chance to practice photos in bright
>> sunshine here in Scotland!
>>
>>
> What lens are you using? Do you have a lens hood for it to cut down on
> flare?
> I'm new to dslr's too. I've only had my 350D for just over a month. After
> about 2000 shots, I'm starting to get the hang of it. I only ever shoot in
> raw and manual settings. Lots of bright, mid-day shots and I haven't had
> any problems with washed out (over exposed) shots. I primarily us a
> 70-200L f4 but I've been using the kit lens quite a bit lately.

I am using a Sigma Aspherical IF, DL Hyperzoom 28-300 f3.5-f6.3 lens from my
old film EOS SLR (plus the standard kit 18-55 lens for wide angles). I can't
afford anything else at the moment (one day...) The lens is generally sharp
and has always produced good shots + a fantastic zoom on the 350d as it is
effectively 480mm. It has a hood, but I don't think its flare that is
causing the problem - some of the photos were of subjects below me or in
front of me with an overhead sun. Perhaps the day was just too bright! I
think I need to read about and play with my metering!
 
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:28:37 -0400, Michael Meissner wrote:

> "ER" <evad@dodgeit.com> writes:
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>> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> > Got my EOS 350d a few months back and took it on holiday to a sunny place
>> > and all bright sunshine shots are over exposed by at least 2 stops!
>> > Obviously I compensated at the time by turning down the exposure by 2
>> > stops, but why do I need to do this. I chose Sunshine for the white
>> > balance and was using ISO 100 or 200.
>> >
>> > All shots were RAW, so I can adjust them on the PC, but you can only
>> > adjust so far from the original!
>> >
>> > The only way I could get decent pics was to use the full manual mode
>> > (normally prefer P for holiday snaps) and play around with the aperture
>> > and shutter speed to below -2 stops, which takes far too long for holiday
>> > snaps at the zoo and around the campsite.
>> >
>> > What am I doing wrong?
>> >
>> > How do I use the custom white balance setting. I have read the manual, but
>> > can't get anywhere!
>>
>> I don't have your same camera but I do have similar problems.
>>
>> The secret is the LCD viewing screen. Learn to use it carefully to get the
>> proper exposure the first time. Use spot metering and lock the aperture on
>> different parts of the scene until the overall picture on the LCD looks
>> right. Then frame the shot carefully and take the exposure.
>
> Ummm, the original poster has a Canon 350d, which is a DSLR. With few
> exceptions (long dead Olympus E10/E20, Fuji S3, etc.) DSLRs do not display the
> image on the LCD until you take the picture.
I have a 350d and I carefully follow the instructions in the manual; I
have not found spotmetering or the image on the lcd before taking.

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Neil Ellwood <charge@eater.pig> writes:

> On Thu, 07 Jul 2005 11:28:37 -0400, Michael Meissner wrote:
> > Ummm, the original poster has a Canon 350d, which is a DSLR. With few
> > exceptions (long dead Olympus E10/E20, Fuji S3, etc.) DSLRs do not display the
> > image on the LCD until you take the picture.
> I have a 350d and I carefully follow the instructions in the manual; I
> have not found spotmetering or the image on the lcd before taking.

You won't find spot metering on Canon consumer (300, 350) and prosumer (20d)
DSLR cameras. Canon reserves this feature for its high end models (1D, 1Ds, 1D
mark2, 1Ds mark2). Other manufacturer's DSLRs have a spot meter mode on all of
their models.

As I said, with rare exceptions on DSLRs you cannot use the LCD before you take
the picture (ie, to use the LCD for framing the picture, or have live
histograms).

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