Windows 8: 10 Changes Microsoft Will Bring to Your PC

[Guest]

Only developers would care about Microsoft's preview of changes coming in a new operating system, right? Well, we think you'll be interested in these 10 differences.

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[jrtolson]

I don't use social network sites, no do i buy apps from "app store, applications" and metro seems like "Windows for idiots and 5 year olds?"..

in most new installs of any windows bloatware, services and programs get "DISABLED" and i guess most other "power users" do the same, especially if they want to "run in the Background" and microsoft just never seem to get this? i want as much cycles my cpu/gpu pump out to be at my beck and call, not the OS.

they really need to get their bloatware sorted, ofcourse they can get win8 to use recources better, they could get windows vista to do it too if they wanted, they bloat up the software to push the hardware sales.

If microsoft wanted to make a great operating system, they would stick to wot we know "windows explorer" and design it from the ground up to run 100% on a pentium 2 or 3 @ 500mhz? with 256 mb of ram and a dx7 era based video card.. then as most users have much better systems the os would run super smooth and efficient and fast. and be customisable to start with on Absolute necassery services to use the computer, and thats it. everthing wlese should be an option to add if wanted..

the annoying thing is, they could service pack up say win 2000 to use latest security and direct x and budled software updates and it would be a damn site better os than windows 8

windows 7 or XP (duel boot) will be the os of choice for quite a few years, only OEM's will buy windows 8 and even the final consumers will just disable the metro bloat so they can use the windows they know..

 

[Guest]

This will turn into another Pissta

 

[Userremoved]

I hate it because they alienated anyone who doesn't have a touchscreen and even if they add a "disable Metro UI" button it looks and runs just like Windows 7 except with a few tweaks. Even worse it doesn't run on any ARM based tablets that are commercially available and will only run on Kal-E at launch and there's not going to be any X86 or X64 emulation so screw running anything remotely useful made for a desktop on them.

 

[Userremoved]

[citation][nom]jrtolson[/nom]I don't use social network sites, no do i buy apps from "app store, applications" and metro seems like "Windows for idiots and 5 year olds?"[/citation]
But I used Windows 98 when I was three. 🙁

 

[Guest]

windows 8 will be an bad os,however they claim.. might be good on tablets
microsoft does play a game when releasing new os..

win 95: bad
win 98: good
win me: bad
win xp:good
win vista: bad
win 7: good
win 8: i think you can guess it now...

and the fast booting will be because of UEFI not because of windows 8..
i will wait for windows 9..because it will be the next best os..

 

[razor512]

Other than the tablet UI, I hate most that they got rid of the start menu. also using a search box is often slower than clicking on a commonly used app on the start menu.

Which seems better to you at tomshardware, the metro crap start menu, or this

http://i.imgur.com/AEGqR.jpg

I have the delays set low and have the start menu organized, I can launch a program from the start menu in under 2 seconds. With the search function, you will have to know how to first spell what you are looking for, then start typing then when the list is narrowed down enough, you move your hand over to the mouse then click on the program.

With the classic start menu, you open your program in 2 clicks and it is done in under 2 seconds

 

[mcd023]

I like the changes that I'm seeing, particularly for the tablet sector. I haven't had a chance to play with the developer install yet, but I guess that I'd probably stick with Win7 for desktop/laptop or at least Win8 with the traditional screen. As far as bloatware, could someone define what that is for me, since it uses less system resources than windows 7, which has been running better for me than xp? I always used it for the programs that 3rd party dealers put on the comp. that take up resources and you never use them.

 

[jhansonxi]

[citation][nom]sarojsuranga[/nom]windows 8 will be an bad os,however they claim.. might be good on tabletsmicrosoft does play a game when releasing new os..win 95: badwin 98: goodwin me: badwin xp:goodwin vista: badwin 7: goodwin 8: i think you can guess it now...and the fast booting will be because of UEFI not because of windows 8..i will wait for windows 9..because it will be the next best os..[/citation]The pattern is a little more complicated than that but I can say that it predates Win95.

Win95 - bad
Win95 OSR2B - good
Win98 - horrible
Win98SE - good
WinME - bad and stayed bad
(NT3, NT4 and 2K varied depending on SP)
WinXP - bad
WinXP SP2 - good

With a new release you're either being overcharged for a stable release with minor features or an alpha tester when major features are added.

 

[killerclick]

If it's not pissible to completely disable or hide Metro UI, I think I'll hang on to Windows 7 for a while. MS may be sh***ing bricks over iPad but this is an overreaction. Windows has 80+% usage share and they're throwing it away to capture the tablet market that has what, like a 5% usage share?

Oh well, maybe next year tablets will be able to wirelessly connect to multiple screens and input devices in which case they may become at least of some use.

 

[silver565]

As long as I can still have the old style explorer view/win7 style I don't care.

The new task manager and things like that look quite good. I just don't want the metro view on my desktop

 

[Guest]

OK, this is Windows Developer Preview. Microsoft needs developers for Metro style apps (and guess what, the Reversi app for the tablet version of this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGvHNNOLnCk - is not gonna write itself). So, how do you make the developers to get this Metro thing? Give them a Windows preview and SDK tools focused on Metro, that's how! The Metro UI is default and the classic desktop elements are minimal because the App Store needs to be full of Metro apps, not desktop apps. Windows 8 RTM will have a full desktop based on the Windows 7 desktop. This Build Windows conference sums up to "developers, this is Windows Metro UI and its SDK, go and build apps for it!"

 

[shoelessinsight]

I am looking forward to Windows 8 specifically for the Metro UI since I hope to use it with a remote control or Kinect on an HTPC. If I have a desktop or laptop with Windows 8, though, I will be immediately disabling Metro whether Microsoft wants me to or not.

New UI options are good and welcome so long as they stay as options and don't become mandates.

 

[zybch]

Pity this article's author decided to inject his own stupid opinion on the second page instead of just let the reader make up their own mind.
I personally hope that there ISN'T much resistance to changing the UI from stupid blinkered "I've always done it this way and are scared of change" morans. You know, the same jerks who complained and took a giant handful of bitter-pills when the XP UI made their computers so unusable they had to switch to classic mode.

Just give us the facts and enough credit to make up our own minds without your stupid snipes against a product still more than a year away from release.

 

[dconnors]

[citation][nom]zybch[/nom]Pity this article's author decided to inject his own stupid opinion on the second page instead of just let the reader make up their own mind.I personally hope that there ISN'T much resistance to changing the UI from stupid blinkered "I've always done it this way and are scared of change" morans. You know, the same jerks who complained and took a giant handful of bitter-pills when the XP UI made their computers so unusable they had to switch to classic mode.Just give us the facts and enough credit to make up our own minds without your stupid snipes against a product still more than a year away from release.[/citation]

Andy gives plenty of information to make up your own mind, so why can't he express his own opinion while doing so? Do you really think Tom's Guide readers can't separate Andy's opinion on the Metro UI from the non-biased information that goes along with it?

While Andy makes it clear that he doesn't like Metro, the biggest issue is not being able to choose a boot screen. Booting into Metro on a tablet or some other touchscreen device is perfectly fine (and I think Andy would agree with me on that), but if I'm running Windows 8 on a gaming machine that has no use for Metro, I don't want to have to boot into that UI and then switch over every single time I turn my machine on. Choice is the operative word here.

-Devin Connors, Tom's Guide

 

[killerclick]

[citation][nom]zybch[/nom]I personally hope that there ISN'T much resistance to changing the UI from stupid blinkered "I've always done it this way and are scared of change" morans.[/citation]

It's not quite as simple as that. How do you open applications side-by-side in Metro? If you have to for example work on a spreadsheet while looking at an e-mail...? Not to mention creative/programming types who use multiple screens. I use three and can't imagine going back to only one.

There is nothing innovative about Metro UI, its "live tiles" are something between icons and desktop gadgets (like in Vista/7). It's optimized for touch but no professional will use touch interfaces for work because holding your hands in front of you for hours hurts.

So it's good for tablets but jury's still out on tablets - they can go the same way as netbooks, or simply stagnate when users realize they don't need new tablets every few years for Facebook or Twitter or whatever it is they do.

Either way, MS shouldn't burn bridges by forcing this new UI on users who will reject it, most likely by sticking to Windows 7 until 2018.

 

[aftcomet]

Good grief. We don't need to reinvent the wheel here. Optimization, speed, better interface, and some other goodies is all that is needed.

 

[squishyalt]

One of the tiles you see at startup is traditional Explorer. So you can get into the old standby, but you have to start with Metro, and as of now, you can't disable it.

Not true. Just download Metro Controller from http://winaero.com/comment.php?comment.news.17 and you can say bye bye to Metro's fugly UI on your desktop.

 

[squishyalt]

The faster booting is somewhat of a lie. While it is true that you can see the login screen and Metro UI faster, you'll have a hard time immediately launching Photoshop or even Word 2010.

It seems that the pretty face and useless Metro apps are just there to make you think Win 8 is ready for business. One or two clicks will show you that there's still a lot work being done before you can do any real work yourself.

I'm not complaining about the 18.5 second boot times I am getting. I just think that this is being deceptive to say that the boot completes in 8 seconds. It does not.

 

[squishyalt]

Developers can write their code in HTML5 and JavaScript and it will work on both platforms, which means desktops, tablets and Windows Phones.

It also means that they will be worthless when it comes to getting actual work done. Just like on iOS, these apps will be mostly games and entertainment related.