YouTube, Vimeo Ditching Flash for HTML5

[Shadow703793]

[citation][nom]fafner[/nom]Good riddance! Now if we can also do away with that slow, ancient resource hog called Adobe Reader I'll be jumping for joy.[/citation]
Foxit Reader works quite well, HOWEVER there are some PDF files that can't be opened correctly without Adobe.

 

[WheelsOfConfusion]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]So they all work then. You sure about that?So Opera and Firefox works?[/citation]
Yes, if you install Flash like you would with every other browser, including Microsoft's default IE 8 which would have been your only choice at install if MS had its way. What is so damn hard to understand? There is no problem here, you're just trying to invent one. Too bad you don't even know what you're talking about, case in point:

OK I concede that the newly released Firefox 3.6 claims to work. What version is supplied with the pre-stamped Windows 7 disks?

NONE OF THEM ARE EXCEPT IE 8! No other browsers are actually on the install disk. When you (hypothetically, since I doubt you actually live in the EU) install Win7 and see the ballot screen, you pick one and Windows downloads it from the internet, so you should always get the most current version. Even if you don't, you're no worse off than you would have been with IE 8 because that doesn't work with HTML-5 either.

It's about Mr Joe European who walks into PC World, gets home, picks Opera and, (they said it could never happen), YouTube decide to pull the flash content and go 100% HTML5, he suddenly can't watch YouTube and he doesn't know why.

That won't happen because Youtube is NOT going to switch to "100%" HTML-5 until it has broader browser support, and even then I'll bet you they still offer Flash versions of videos for those stuck behind corporation workstation who only have IE 6. You're railing against an imaginary problem for imaginary reasons and you don't seem able to understand all the different ways I've tried to explain how you're wrong. You should really just stop talking, even though I'm sure Mr. Europe is touched by your concern for how the EU is fucking with his browsing habits by making sure he has a choice of default browsers.

 

[False_Dmitry_II]

I just hope when it's all sorted there isn't this codec problem. Although I wonder what the solution will be.

 

[nottheking]

[citation][nom]cdillon[/nom]The odd choice in browser support is due to each browser's choice in which HTML5 video type they wanted to support.[/citation]
Very correct, though I'd point out for those that didn't catch your mild slip-up that the .OGG container's video format is Theora; Vorbis is the audio format for that container.

And hopefully, perhaps in the not-too-distant future, Google and IAC will recognize that there's already been a number of highly-disputed cases involving patents over H.264, while there've been none regarding Theora, and hence switch. While I'm not normally much of a fan for open-source software, the idea of having a web of patents over a format standard is outright ludicrous to me.

 

[WheelsOfConfusion]

Right now Theora is extremely niche (I think the only big adopter so far is Wikipedia) and there's no money in going after it, but if Youtube, Vimeo, or some other big-money service adopted it, you might see the patent trolls flood out from under their bridges. That's how they might be thinking if they believe the patent thing holds water.

 

[coremaster556]

It's about time thats all I got to say as adobe flash sucks

Oliver
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