25 new Brooklyn camera dealer pictures

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"Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
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>I just put on the web an additional 25 pictures of Brooklyn store fronts.
> These were taken over several bicycle trips over the past few weeks. The
> new ones are mixed in, but can be found by looking for numbers greater
> than
> 138. See: http/donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/

Don: What sort of response do you get from people when you're taking photos?
I just did a bicycle commute run from San Francisco down the Peninsula, with
camera, and there were some "neighborhoods" where I just didn't think I'd
get out alive if I took photos (specifically the south end of 3rd Street in
SF).

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

 

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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005, Mike Jacoubowsky <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>Don: What sort of response do you get from people when you're taking photos?
>I just did a bicycle commute run from San Francisco down the Peninsula, with
>camera, and there were some "neighborhoods" where I just didn't think I'd
>get out alive if I took photos (specifically the south end of 3rd Street in
>SF).

In some of the Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods I have been given a hard time
by bystanders. Their community is so insular they don't like outsiders
there at all. Then the story of Butterfly Photo is on the caption. He asked
who I was. I told him my first name. And he knew my last name. He didn't
want me to take the outside, but invited me in to take the inside. I simply
came back a week later to get the outside. Then Avalon Gadgets, after I
asked at the door if it was them, and they confirmed it, they didn't want
their picture taken. Again I simply came back later.

The only real problem I had was when I was followed. I had stopped to check
out a place, and he pulled alongside and took my picture. Then he turned
around and from across the street told me not to put their picture up. But
I don't know where he was from, so I put all the pictures up. I hadn't
taken a picture in a while, so I can't believe I was followed for that
long. More like he saw me earlier in the day and was driving around to find
me.

888 Digital once e-mailed me to tell me my picture was old and I was
invited to get a new one and to take an inside picture. I do now have a new
one, but I didn't go inside. Maybe someday I will. But I do note on the
caption that inside was very neat and the place was clearly set up to ship
items. This unlike the boiler rooms that have everything drop shipped.

Oh, there was one picture I didn't take. It was an apartment building in
East Flatbush, a minority neighborhood. The whois address was there. There
were people hanging out in front and around. So I simply skipped it. It
wasn't important. I only put up whois addresses when I can't find a real
business location. Often they are people's homes.

Don <www.donwiss.com> (e-mail link at home page bottom).

 

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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> "Don Wiss" <donwiss@no_spam.com> wrote in message
> news:i1imh1pl2176t3a5p5qg0i9cpbm7gjfnj7@4ax.com...
>
>>I just put on the web an additional 25 pictures of Brooklyn store fronts.
>>These were taken over several bicycle trips over the past few weeks. The
>>new ones are mixed in, but can be found by looking for numbers greater
>>than
>>138. See: http/donwiss.com/pictures/BrooklynStores/
>
>
> Don: What sort of response do you get from people when you're taking photos?
> I just did a bicycle commute run from San Francisco down the Peninsula, with
> camera, and there were some "neighborhoods" where I just didn't think I'd
> get out alive if I took photos (specifically the south end of 3rd Street in
> SF).
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Even in good neighborhoods it often freaks people out when they see
someone taking pictures in a setting where it doesn't seem normal.

I've been carrying my SLR when I walk my kid to school, to take pictures
of vehicles that fail to stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk. Three
times I've had drivers come up to me and ask why I was taking pictures
of them, and I explained that I was documenting the way cars were not
yielding to pedestrians in crosswalks, as required. The responses varied
from anger to apologies (see "http/drivetoschoolhallofshame.com").

I find that the SLR has a _tremendous_ deterrent effect as well--point
the camera at a car that is about to not yield, and they usually will stop.

 

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>> Don: What sort of response do you get from people when you're taking
>> photos? I just did a bicycle commute run from San Francisco down the
>> Peninsula, with camera, and there were some "neighborhoods" where I just
>> didn't think I'd get out alive if I took photos (specifically the south
>> end of 3rd Street in SF).
>>
>> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
>> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
> Even in good neighborhoods it often freaks people out when they see
> someone taking pictures in a setting where it doesn't seem normal.
>
> I've been carrying my SLR when I walk my kid to school, to take pictures
> of vehicles that fail to stop for pedestrians in the crosswalk. Three
> times I've had drivers come up to me and ask why I was taking pictures of
> them, and I explained that I was documenting the way cars were not
> yielding to pedestrians in crosswalks, as required. The responses varied
> from anger to apologies (see "http/drivetoschoolhallofshame.com").
>
> I find that the SLR has a _tremendous_ deterrent effect as well--point the
> camera at a car that is about to not yield, and they usually will stop.

Steve: Yes, I've been to your page; I think your real-time intimidation
factor (with the SLR) is probably more effective than the photos, which
unfortunately show only a moment in time, not the before/during/after that's
really needed to understand what's going on. I was going to mention that in
a prior thread but never got around to it. Seeing just a single picture of
the infraction allows people to rationalize that maybe what's going on is a
bit different than what's said, and not everbody wants to try and
reconstruct things in their mind to figure it out.

But yes, there's a real need to get drivers around schools to understand
that often, when they're dropping their kids off & picking them up, they're
part of the problem, not the solution. I certainly see that around my own
neighborhood!

But back to intimidation- do you think it matters whether you're using a
white or black lens? Might be a great way for some to rationalize an "L"
lens to their significant other!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com