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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:21:19 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
(MegaZone) wrote:

>arcadefreaque@gmail.com shaped the electrons to say:
>>I don't think they can verify caller id from dialup accounts either
>>since 1) caller id isn't supported everywhere & 2) my understanding is
>>that the dialup is not even their phone, but a gateway dialup "leased"
>
>1. In the US CID is ubiquitous, but you can block it on most calls you
> make.
>
>2. It depends on the outsourcer. The network access server almost
> certainly supports collection of CID (the ones I worked with did),
> and RADIUS, the most common AAA protocol, supports logging it. The
> question is if the outsourcer bothers - and, if so, if they provide
> that information to their customers.
>

Maybe that (logging) is a reason they don't use toll-free numbers (no
CID).

>-MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762

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Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>
>Maybe that (logging) is a reason they don't use toll-free numbers (no
>CID).

DirecTV uses 800 numbers for their dial-in pool, no doubt partially so
they have access to ANI to verify you're in the area you claim you're
in.

I think it's pretty clear that TiVo doesn't use toll-free numbers
mostly for cost reasons. They did offer them once-upon-a-time.

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"Scott Seligman" <seligman@example.com> wrote:
>Mark Lloyd <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:
>>
>>Maybe that (logging) is a reason they don't use toll-free numbers (no
>>CID).
>
>DirecTV uses 800 numbers for their dial-in pool, no doubt partially so
>they have access to ANI to verify you're in the area you claim you're
>in.
>
>I think it's pretty clear that TiVo doesn't use toll-free numbers
>mostly for cost reasons. They did offer them once-upon-a-time.

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Au contrair mon ami, they don't use 800 service becuase it's more
expensive. On an 800 circuit you always receive ANI (similar to CID) and
ANI cannot be blocked. ANI was available many years before CID was
released. Reason is that an 800 call is basically like a collect call
and the one paying has a right to know who's calling. The info was
originally needed to for the telco rate the call when distance used to
be a factor in 800 pricing.

From:Mark Lloyd
mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx

> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:21:19 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
> (MegaZone) wrote:
>
>> arcadefreaque@gmail.com shaped the electrons to say:
>>> I don't think they can verify caller id from dialup accounts either
>>> since 1) caller id isn't supported everywhere & 2) my understanding
>>> is that the dialup is not even their phone, but a gateway dialup
>>> "leased"
>>
>> 1. In the US CID is ubiquitous, but you can block it on most calls
>> you make.
>>
>> 2. It depends on the outsourcer. The network access server almost
>> certainly supports collection of CID (the ones I worked with did),
>> and RADIUS, the most common AAA protocol, supports logging it. The
>> question is if the outsourcer bothers - and, if so, if they provide
>> that information to their customers.
>>
>
> Maybe that (logging) is a reason they don't use toll-free numbers (no
> CID).
>
>> -MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
>
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> 57 days until the winter solstice celebration
>
> Mark Lloyd
> http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

 

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 03:02:13 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
wrote:

>Au contrair mon ami, they don't use 800 service becuase it's more
>expensive. On an 800 circuit you always receive ANI (similar to CID) and
>ANI cannot be blocked. ANI was available many years before CID was
>released. Reason is that an 800 call is basically like a collect call
>and the one paying has a right to know who's calling. The info was
>originally needed to for the telco rate the call when distance used to
>be a factor in 800 pricing.
>

Interestingly, I was telling people about ANI for a few days.

>From:Mark Lloyd
>mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx
>
>> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:21:19 +0000 (UTC), newsREMOVE@THISmegazone.org
>> (MegaZone) wrote:
>>
>>> arcadefreaque@gmail.com shaped the electrons to say:
>>>> I don't think they can verify caller id from dialup accounts either
>>>> since 1) caller id isn't supported everywhere & 2) my understanding
>>>> is that the dialup is not even their phone, but a gateway dialup
>>>> "leased"
>>>
>>> 1. In the US CID is ubiquitous, but you can block it on most calls
>>> you make.
>>>
>>> 2. It depends on the outsourcer. The network access server almost
>>> certainly supports collection of CID (the ones I worked with did),
>>> and RADIUS, the most common AAA protocol, supports logging it. The
>>> question is if the outsourcer bothers - and, if so, if they provide
>>> that information to their customers.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe that (logging) is a reason they don't use toll-free numbers (no
>> CID).
>>
>>> -MZ, RHCE #806199299900541, ex-CISSP #3762
>>
>> --
>> 57 days until the winter solstice celebration
>>
>> Mark Lloyd
>> http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com
>

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