700 ''Hurt Locker'' IP-addresses Goes to Court

[xrodney]

[citation][nom]g-thor[/nom]Standard lawsuit practice - actual cost of damages plus punitive charges. It happens to big companies when they get busted for breaking the laws (really - especially workplace safety). Say you sued MPAA because they caused you to have panic attacks. Would you settle for them just paying your wages for the time you lost at work, or would you expect to get punitive charges to make them think twice about causing panic attacks for other people (caused by launching large lawsuits against movie pirates).I have to agree with most people on this, though - it won't stop piracy. Many people justify stealing music and videos, but if they snuck into a theatre without a ticket and got busted, would they try and use the same justification. I think MPAA and RIAA need to write pirates off as "We wouldn't have gotten any money from these people if we only charged a nickel" and walk away from it.Most of us are honest. If we think the movie or the music is worth having, we'll pay for it. It makes me wonder if the top dogs of MPAA/RIAA can actually think that way, or do their minds not work like that. They also fail to see that we simply want to listen to/watch our purchases on whatever device we have - DVD player, computer, Zune/iThing or smartphone (really?). Let us do that and forget the rest. Reward us who support you and don't treat us as if we're your enemy.[/citation]
Based on this you should pay punitive damage in 1$ range as it should be based on your income and if company with 250bil income usually pays much less then 1%.

How hard is really punitive damage of 5milion for someone that makes billions from it.

 

[liquidchild]

I've piggy backed in the past....who is to say these 700 people were not the victims of a piggy back? BTW +1 to TW

 

[lasaldude]

[citation][nom]flachet[/nom]Any EOD tech yanking on a 105mm shell connected with detonator cord that is buried in sand should be hung for stupidity. It was too much BS to be anything close to good.The plot sucked, the acting sucked and the fact that everything he did was about as opposite from proper ordinance disposal as you can get sucked. I'm pretty sure that any EOD tech I worked with that acted like that would be sectioned 8 immediately. Granted with movies you have to have some leeway, it can't be full on realism, but geez, at least make is somewhat believable.Regarding the Oscars, I don't equate an Oscar win or nomination with good.[/citation]

Another great part is when he references You tube and he's playing Gears of War all in what was the time before those came out.

 

[metatasian]

I acquired this movie for "free" and I still couldn't get past the first 25 minutes - complete and utter GARBAGE! How it won so many awards is beyond me.

 

[kingnoobe]

Wrong answer ianpac. This is going to civil court not crimminal court. Which means reasonable doubt does not apply. It becomes a majority 50% and more type of rule.

 

[hixbot]

unsecure your wireless, folks. it gives you deniability.

 

[user-one]

this is what happens when you let women in the workplace. if things don't go thier way, they throw a HUGE temper tantrum and start trying to sue any and everyone they can.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]carlosspicywiener[/nom]I will pay the fine if I get it when they can prove I was the one sitting at the computer downloading their property. I got roommates. An IP address will only tell them what house downloaded it. Do they have a list of mac addresses to go along with it, so they can at least say what device it came from? And to anyone who says "its your computer you should be responsible for it", I say this: If I loan my car to someone and they wreck it, should they say I'm responsible for that persons error? I don't want to hear about "oh it could have been mechanical failure" or something like that. I work on cars for a living. Try telling me my car has a mechanical issue with it. Why would anybody take this series of lawsuits serious? If i get one of these, I will wipe my ass with it and post the video on youtube.[/citation]

They don't have to prove it was you. You are responsible for your computer, anything that is done with it.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]hixbot[/nom]unsecure your wireless, folks. it gives you deniability.[/citation]

That won't work. You are responsible for your computer, and your network - and anything that is done with them.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]liquidchild[/nom]I've piggy backed in the past....who is to say these 700 people were not the victims of a piggy back? BTW +1 to TW[/citation]

If you don't secure your wireless network, you are responsible for anything done with it.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]alexmihai[/nom]I'm not an expert so this is just my opinion. From what i can see in the movies (ironic isnt it ?) it's not enough to have the murder weapon (the IP) you also have to link the suspect (the pirate) to it . Example : I use a friend's PC to pirate that overrated movie , how will the prosecution know and prove that i did it ? they will just sue my innocent friend . IMO this is just an act of desparation from corporations because they got 1 thing in this world they can't control ... the internet[/citation]

You are responsible for your unsecured network, and anything done with it.

 

[decepticon]

Ok, so when this story broke it was "IP addresses of those who downloaded said movie"....now it's 700 IP addresses of those who "shared" said movie. Which is it? Are they going after those who downloaded it only or those who shared (seeded) it?

 

[potatolord]

Those poor pirates. I'm loving all the possible excuses that are being thrown up. I'll guess we'll see whether they work when people get the letter through their door.

Lots of minuses for me from pirates who are now scared they will be caught!

 

[potatolord]

I wonder how many people caught with child porn on their pcs have tried the old "it wasn't me- it was mysterious baddies on my wi-fi" excuse? Quiet a few, I'm guessing.

Still, I suppose we'll find out whether all the internet legal wizards can understand legislation and case law soon enough.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]decepticon[/nom]Ok, so when this story broke it was "IP addresses of those who downloaded said movie"....now it's 700 IP addresses of those who "shared" said movie. Which is it? Are they going after those who downloaded it only or those who shared (seeded) it?[/citation]

While you are downloading, you are also uploading the exact same data. Seeding starts the instant the download starts - not after the download is complete. If you've downloaded, you've shared.

 

[tommysch]

Time Warner will get massive support and... new clients if they fight the MPAA. Release the lawyers!!! They should send a 20 man legal team to court and rip that whorish producer to pieces.

 

[maydaynomore]

Hahahahahaha........nice.... I've been waiting for this for a looooong time. I hope other movie and music studios do the same. The thieves deserve whats coming their way. this just makes me so happy. I would do anything to see the look on their faces when they get the letters.... hahahahahah. That would be priceless.

 

[vloomz]

i downloaded it but am i included on the list??

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]maydaynomore[/nom]Hahahahahaha........nice.... I've been waiting for this for a looooong time. I hope other movie and music studios do the same. The thieves deserve whats coming their way. this just makes me so happy. I would do anything to see the look on their faces when they get the letters.... hahahahahah. That would be priceless.[/citation]

I'd love to see the look on their faces when they stand before a judge and offer all their silly excuses and "legal" maneuvers. Here's a newsflash - they've seen and heard it all before. "But, it wasn't me, your honor.", uh, yeah, like that's going to work...

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]potatolord[/nom]Those poor pirates. I'm loving all the possible excuses that are being thrown up. I'll guess we'll see whether they work when people get the letter through their door.Lots of minuses for me from pirates who are now scared they will be caught![/citation]

Proxy and tunneling dude... But you sure deserve the thumb down.