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[citation][nom]TA152H[/nom]I think what he's saying is that just because an item is defective, it doesn't matter really, since all items are defective to some extent, and it's not a useful identifier to how useful the item is. I don't agree with the premise completely, because reliability of an item is also important, and it's not a data point that should be completely ignored. If an item has a high defect rate, and I am waiting impatiently on this item (let's say it's replacing one that broke, for context), then I do care if one is frequently dead on arrival. I think his unstated assumption is that all items, regardless of manufacturer, are going to have defects, which is true, but the number of defective ones is not going to be the same. Some have better quality than others.I agree with your solution, but, if I were reviewing an item and got a defective one, I would penalize the item in my score, probably one star, and mention that is why. I do think creating defective items should have a penalty associated with it, since it can be highly inconvenient, and something of a nuisance to get a defective product and then have to "RMA" it. There's also a saying "It's not that you lied to me that bothers me, it's that I can never trust you again". For me, I always have an uneasy feeling after I run into a defective product, even when receiving the replacement.[/citation]
I once knew a guy that bitched because his 20 year old toaster stoped working. that said the definition of reliable has changed , saddly the number of life eyars on products reliablity seem to go down ... My grand mother stil has a working 25" TV from 1963 , yet the 35" TV i bought for my mother back in 1999 died last year , but by all technicaly definitions no one has considered that 35" inch tv unreliable. Granted if you buy a computer and it craps out the next day , so you replace it and then the replacment craps out in one day as well, that is definitely an unreliable Computer. but in general people have lowered thier expectatiosn on electronic products in more reccent years. Case in point , take anthoer friend of mine, eyars ago back in high school he had a nintendo 64 burn it's self up on him,he had it for 2 years,he bitched (as any one would), and said that it should last at least 15 years, He still replaced it despite his bitching. Fast forward to more modern times , in 2005 his original xbox burned up , but oddly he didtn bitch about how things should alst at least 15 years , he only and the consoel for 5 years. he of coruse got a 360 which RRoD'ed on him just shy of 4 years age , and again he didn't complain, just said "ah well the console had a full life". so back to my original point i think over the reccent eyars peopel in this country have redefined what is reliable and what is unreliable as far as product life spans go. Maybe i'm just nuts when i think gadgets should work every bit as long as my old nintendo did (which still plays like brand new btw). speaking of old hardware ... my old computer i gave to my mom is stil up adn runign after 8 years not bad if you ask me though even i half expected that at least the harddrive would have failed by now.
jsut some food for thought though.
I once knew a guy that bitched because his 20 year old toaster stoped working. that said the definition of reliable has changed , saddly the number of life eyars on products reliablity seem to go down ... My grand mother stil has a working 25" TV from 1963 , yet the 35" TV i bought for my mother back in 1999 died last year , but by all technicaly definitions no one has considered that 35" inch tv unreliable. Granted if you buy a computer and it craps out the next day , so you replace it and then the replacment craps out in one day as well, that is definitely an unreliable Computer. but in general people have lowered thier expectatiosn on electronic products in more reccent years. Case in point , take anthoer friend of mine, eyars ago back in high school he had a nintendo 64 burn it's self up on him,he had it for 2 years,he bitched (as any one would), and said that it should last at least 15 years, He still replaced it despite his bitching. Fast forward to more modern times , in 2005 his original xbox burned up , but oddly he didtn bitch about how things should alst at least 15 years , he only and the consoel for 5 years. he of coruse got a 360 which RRoD'ed on him just shy of 4 years age , and again he didn't complain, just said "ah well the console had a full life". so back to my original point i think over the reccent eyars peopel in this country have redefined what is reliable and what is unreliable as far as product life spans go. Maybe i'm just nuts when i think gadgets should work every bit as long as my old nintendo did (which still plays like brand new btw). speaking of old hardware ... my old computer i gave to my mom is stil up adn runign after 8 years not bad if you ask me though even i half expected that at least the harddrive would have failed by now.
jsut some food for thought though.
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