Anonymous Strikes Deus Ex, Eidos Websites

[therabiddeer]

[citation][nom]azcoyote[/nom]The millions of people affected by the PSN outage aren't Sony nor are they a tax hungry monarchy.[/citation]
The PSN outage isnt due to anon, it is due to them fixing the security flaw that allowed somebody that was not part of anon to steal user info. You continuously bashing your head and saying that the PSN outage is because of anon is ridiculous.
[citation][nom]kinggremlin[/nom]If they use illegal means to get their point across. Definitely. If they cause millions of dollars in financial damages to not only their target, but other companies who do business with them, like the PSN attack, that they as a group would never be able to pay back, they should either spend the rest of their life in prison, or the rest of their life working for minimum wage as a janitor for one of the companies they affected.[/citation]
They didnt do millions of dollars in financial damages. The PSN attack that has caused this entire issue was NOT from anon.

Good god, all I am seeing from people that hate anon are from people that are putting the blame on them for things they didnt do. Its like blaming the british for what happened in WW2, it actually makes no sense.

 

[kinggremlin]

[citation][nom]TheRabidDeer[/nom]The PSN outage isnt due to anon, it is due to them fixing the security flaw that allowed somebody that was not part of anon to steal user info. You continuously bashing your head and saying that the PSN outage is because of anon is ridiculous.
They didnt do millions of dollars in financial damages. The PSN attack that has caused this entire issue was NOT from anon.Good god, all I am seeing from people that hate anon are from people that are putting the blame on them for things they didnt do. Its like blaming the british for what happened in WW2, it actually makes no sense.[/citation]

Yea right. What a completely bizarre coincidence that TWO completely distinct and seperate groups of hackers hit Sony at the exact same time. Seriously? What are you going to tell us next, that the moon landing was faked? That the cream center of a Twinkie really is just born there?

The scenario you are trying to portray to everyone else as fact is what really makes no sense.

 

[therabiddeer]

[citation][nom]kinggremlin[/nom]Yea right. What a completely bizarre coincidence that TWO completely distinct and seperate groups of hackers hit Sony at the exact same time. Seriously? What are you going to tell us next, that the moon landing was faked? That the cream center of a Twinkie really is just born there?The scenario you are trying to portray to everyone else as fact is what really makes no sense.[/citation]
Because its entirely impossible for somebody that knows where anon has these meetings to discuss DDoS attacks and is capable enough to hack into a secure server and steal data then cover his tracks is unreasonable. I mean, seriously... it takes a coordinated effort to do a DDoS on the scale to bring down a huge site/service (they failed to take down amazon) so having one single person that isnt part of anon seems... obvious.

Also, I want to clarify something else... Sony brought down PSN on their own. Nobody brought the server down but them. They took it down because they were informed of the security breach, before that they were just keeping the server up and handling the DDoS attack.

 

[therabiddeer]

Oh, and also... there is nothing to indicate that it was a second GROUP, it is more likely it was an individual.

 

[Toter]

Anonymous seems to be the new buzzword, Its not an organised group so anyone can claim to be them and so that leads to idiots doing terrible things for no reason and claiming to be anonymous. The ones who do actually care about several causes are getting blamed/made to look bad by people who are too ignorant to understand

 

[SethEffect]

Hi my name is scuba dave. I troll internet forums. I am revolutionary.

 

[scuba dave]

[citation][nom]azcoyote[/nom]Sony took away your ability to run extra code on your PS3 so now you equate that to a great injustice worthy of multi-million dollar attacks, forced outages that punish your co-users on PSN, and theft??? Revolutions serve the needs and wills of the masses. Not an elite few who are angry they cannot root their PS3. Trust me kid. Anyone reading these exchanges has your number at this point. And for the record, freedom means you can always buy a 360 and ditch your PS3 if you don't like Sony's biz practices. What you espouse and do in the name of Anon is a bastardized version of how you see your rights. And it is sad you think your perceived rights (no one has a right to hack a PS3) are more important than those of millions of other people. You talk completely out of your a$$. YOUR FREEDOM TO HACK A PS3?? HOW ABOUT MILLIONS OF PEOPLES FREEDOM TO USE SONY??? You are an utter failure and Anon is self-promoting, self-absorbed, self-serving, and utterly selfish by nature. No one was helped by their actions now or in the past. But I bet you looked at that PS3 that can't run Linux now and got all indignantly self righteous. Keep up the work. It should lead you to where you belong.. Jail.[/citation]

A "great" injustice? No, I never said that friend. Your the one speaking out of your ass. You are the one who can't handle an adult conversation without resorting to petty, childish forced-jail-butt sex comments. I'd expect more out of my son than that. Pity that a 9 year old is more behaved than you. Then again, he probably understands his rights better than you understand yours. You keep throwing up the rights of millions out, when the masses don't matter when it comes to rights. It's the individual that matters. Now, the implement them on a massive scale, but each and every right was drawn, designed, and aimed at the lowest individual. All men are created equal. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Not all that... IF it's okay with everyone else. And it isn't an elite few who are mad at Sony.. You really, really need to stop coming up with your own arbitrary figures and guesstimates. Like I said before.. I support the ideals that Anon has. As I said, battles are hardly ever won without causalities. In real wars, civilians die. In these digital battles.. some people can't place their winning bet on an ebay item because paypal just crashed.. Boo hoo. Get some perspective. Or perhaps we should just start putting all law-breakers on death row eh? That'll be cool and has the extra benefit of being super communist-ish. You'd feel right at home. And for the record, freedom doesn't mean buying a 360 and ditching a ps3. Don't be such a tool. Freedom is so very much more than a stupid choice between one thing and another. It's the ability to choose something, and then choose what you do with it. I can buy an orange, and cut it in any way I want.. Or not at all. My choice. I can buy a car, mod it all to hell.. Can't drive it on the road though, lol.. but I can do it and its legal. I can mod my pc. I can mod my house. I can mod my clothing. I can mod my furniture. I can modify anything and everything I want under the sun.. But noooooooo!!!1! Not my PS3!! Heaven forbid! The only rights Sony should have over MY ps3 is whether I am allowed to be on their PSN network. Nothing else. If I mod my PS3, I should be locked out of their network, and left to my own ends, provided, of course, that I'm not using my modded PS3 to do something illegal like playing pirated movies or games. But no.. Sony is fighting tooth and nail for that control. I think it's funny that according to the law right now, we are allowed to jailbreak our phones, but not our game consoles? It's only a matter of time before someone takes up that battle, and wins. But in no way, shape or form is me doing something with my equipment, only for my use alone, should be the business of anyone else. I paid for the equipment, and pay for the power that runs through it. It's mine. Not Sony's. Now, as for your comment about about millions of peoples freedom to use Sony.. How about millions of peoples right to OWN their stuff? How about millions of peoples rights to a justice system that fights for justice, and not a legal system that is heavily manipulated by lobbyist after lobbyist, special interest group after special interest group, political agenda after agenda, etc, etc, etc, etc? Oh no.. That's too much to ask.

Now, kid.. Why don't you stop trying to irritate me, and flapping your lips as if your view really mattered to anyone but yourself? Or have you not seen that your the only one commenting on what I'm saying? Or that no one is "really" disagreeing with me.. At least not like you. Your opinion, views, and input were completely and utterly made null and void in this discussion the second you freaked out, and like a child, started stupid, completely inappropriate insults. You are the equivilant of a modern day Crusader in that your willing to curse hell and damnation on anyone that disagrees with your own views. That's pathetic. While you could have been an adult about it and just said "Scuba, I disagree with you, and you can't convince me." You instead chose the pathetically annoying route of "U R so dum. You be forsed buttsechs by bubbA. Im soo graet and every 1 noes it."

All your doing at this point is blowing hot air, fueled by your rapidly growing arrogance and self-righteous opinion of yourself and your version of "truth". May I suggest you take an anger management, us history, government, and a psychology class. Maybe even throw in some theology. I'll let you figure out for yourself why the last one belongs with them. And don't say you already know, or have taken any of the above. Because if you did.. You need a refresher friend. Bad.

Also, don't make comments about other people having "my number". You only speak for yourself, idiot. I, can and will say your a child, and a tool.. But that's just my opinion.. And everyone, or no one can agree or disagree.. It doesn't matter.. Doesn't make it true, doesn't make it false. Just makes it my opinion, and rightfully so.

I hope you learn the difference someday, and start being less radical about your views, and at least be accepting of others rights and opinions. You don't have the right to stand here and insult us for having our own opinions. That kinda stuff is accepted in the Middle East, and Communist states. You really make me fear for the future of some people in this world..

 

[scuba dave]

[citation][nom]SethEffect[/nom]Hi my name is scuba dave. I troll internet forums. I am revolutionary.[/citation]

Wow.. Soo mature.

 

[theshonen8899]

I don't give a **** who hacked them, Anon or whoever. Whoever's been hacking PSN and this needs to get laid. Desperately.

 

[Ogdin]

Hackers=douchebags
People defending the hackers=double douchebags

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]azcoyote[/nom]No, I actually didn't say that... nice try at a sensational lie based comeback though... Activism != hacking in digital realm just as it does not equal burning buildings IRL. As to jailing people over activism in real life, if they were attacking a business physically and setting it's offices on fire, then YES. Put them in jail. Regardless, your statement is absurd. Go picket something if you wanna be an activist. Activism this is/was not... It was criminal... Theft, destruction, defacement, and denial of service are all criminal acts regardless of whether you do it digitally or IRL.[/citation]
So DDOSing a server equates to the destruction of property in real life, now who's being sensational...

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]kinggremlin[/nom]If they use illegal means to get their point across. Definitely. If they cause millions of dollars in financial damages to not only their target, but other companies who do business with them, like the PSN attack, that they as a group would never be able to pay back, they should either spend the rest of their life in prison, or the rest of their life working for minimum wage as a janitor for one of the companies they affected.[/citation]
You do know that real life protests can also cost a lot of money to companies. Also many protests resort to illegal actions, like for example cutting traffic to a road. Perhaps the police should run them over with their cars, when they do this.

 

[alidan]

[citation][nom]Agustus69[/nom]These guys are some sort of jerks. I'm hoping they are caught some day and rather than offering them a job - which is usually what happens with hackers - instead tossing them in the clink for a good 10-15 years.[/citation]
to catch a hacker you need to be a hacker, its that simple.
whats better, putting someone in jail for 10-15 years due to the sheer arrogance that they are the only people capable of cracking your system, or higher then so they can patch all the holes you have and prevent a second attack, possibly more.

hackers find the holes better than the people who make the software and thats a proven fact.

 

[enforcer22]

[citation][nom]azcoyote[/nom]no person or group should be allowed to attack a company, negatively affect it's business, effectively tarnish it's reputation...[/citation]

Yeah like sony needs any help in this department.

 

[Marthian]

I think Anonymous should just be disbanded. I have yet to see anything positive come out of them, only networks get shut down, and businesses are damaged. I really doubt despite them declining they had no relation to any such Network outages that they are innocent, and after all, this is the internet. There are people on the internet that are so smart their stupid.

 

[kinggremlin]

[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]You do know that real life protests can also cost a lot of money to companies. Also many protests resort to illegal actions, like for example cutting traffic to a road. Perhaps the police should run them over with their cars, when they do this.[/citation]

Really? Name one other act protest that has affected literally millions of people around the world and impacted so many companies and individuals to the tune of millions of dollars?

You're right, it is illegal to block streets in protest, and that's why the police arrest those people. Why would the police run them over? That's not relevant to anything anyone has said here.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]kinggremlin[/nom]You're right, it is illegal to block streets in protest, and that's why the police arrest those people.[/citation]
Funny because when I see protests of people taking it to the street or drivers blockading roads I don't see them arresting anyone unless someone turns to violence. Or do you think that it's feasible to arrest everyone at a protest when sometimes the number of people can reach thousands.

 

[jmjjohn]

To all those who are for and against:
Take what you can - Give nothing Back....
Captain Jack Sparrow

Is that not the true rule of the world. Odd that it came from a pirates mouth. While all of us, including the multi-million dollar corporations are happy of living by this unsaid code - we condemn the pirates who live by this code.

 

[gruntlord6]

[citation][nom]weaselsmasher[/nom]Do people understand yet why Anonymous aren't heroes? They're just people who like to hurt other people, then hide behind "social justice" or other empty marketing-grade buzzwords. Anonymous does not give a damn about Guantanamo, Tibet, or whatever other cause they use as excuse. Don't fool yourselves; they're the online equivalent of wife-beaters.Giving a sullen Asperger's poster-child punk computer skills doesn't somehow make them anything other than a skilled punk.[/citation] Why don`t people understand anonymous is A LABEL. THERE IS NO SUCH GROUP. Unless you publish your name with everything you do online, you are also anon.

 

[gruntlord6]

[citation][nom]Marthian[/nom]I think Anonymous should just be disbanded. I have yet to see anything positive come out of them, only networks get shut down, and businesses are damaged. I really doubt despite them declining they had no relation to any such Network outages that they are innocent, and after all, this is the internet. There are people on the internet that are so smart their stupid.[/citation]Again, they are not a real group, thus cannot disband.