Apple 'Back to Mac' Event Hints at OS X 'Lion'

[megamanx00]

Meh

 

[brother shrike]

[citation][nom]liveonc[/nom]You're right, Leopard is post WWII ;-) As for Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, & Lynx. They're all German WWII & post WWII German Panzer.[/citation]
Correlation, not causation methinks.

 

[liveonc]

[citation][nom]brother shrike[/nom]Correlation, not causation methinks.[/citation]
Regardless of if you're right or correlation proves causation. Why change a tradition if it's already there? They were not all WWII Panzer, so why keep whipping The Germans? They still make "good" tanks & they're not "evil" anymore. ;-)

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]guzz46[/nom]Apart from playing certain games what exactly is it that linux can't do that windows can?Installing software on linux is a piece of cake, and what makes linux a poor experience? because there are a lot of people that much prefer the linux experience than windows or mac[/citation]

I forgot the "well as" part from the previous post I was referring too. So to clarify Linux does not do gaming as well as Windows.

After installing and running Ubuntu 10.10 for the last few days alongside Windows 7 I do find it to not be anywhere as nice to use. From having to figure out the text commands to properly get my motherboards optical output working; or having to figure out the text commands to get the latest AMD drivers installed so I can use CCC and get the hdmi scaling fixed on my secondary display. It was all very time consuming and not readily apparent and easily done. Getting software from the software download center was easy, but then installing software not from the download center often had me going into the command line. Time and time again I was having to go to read me files and learn code to get things to work. I have never ever had to do that on Windows XP or later, or on OSX. And I think that severely degrades the experience. I also just feel that the Linux distros I have tried simply lack the polish of Windows 7 or OSX, they feel very much like XP to me yet without XP's software compatibility and with more dependence on the command line.

And I absolutely hate those jiggling windows when you turn up the graphical settings in Ubuntu, ugh. When I use Linux I feel like its telling me to screw off because I dont want to learn the command line short cuts and I am not satisfied with whatever it automatically chooses.

 

[ericburnby]

[citation][nom]guzz46[/nom]Apart from playing certain games what exactly is it that linux can't do that windows can?Installing software on linux is a piece of cake, and what makes linux a poor experience? because there are a lot of people that much prefer the linux experience than windows or mac[/citation]
Linux cannot run any of the engineering software I use. That makes it completely useless to me as a developer.

 

[mayankleoboy1]

[citation][nom]stm1185[/nom]I forgot the "well as" part from the previous post I was referring too. So to clarify Linux does not do gaming as well as Windows.After installing and running Ubuntu 10.10 for the last few days alongside Windows 7 I do find it to not be anywhere as nice to use....... it automatically chooses.[/citation]

thats because its FREE. ypu DONT have to spend a single penny on it. you want to get things for free, and you crib about quality?
just pay for windows/os x and then for an antivirus and then pay for every software you use, and then DONT complain..

 

[guzz46]

[citation][nom]stm1185[/nom]I forgot the "well as" part from the previous post I was referring too. So to clarify Linux does not do gaming as well as Windows.After installing and running Ubuntu 10.10 for the last few days alongside Windows 7 I do find it to not be anywhere as nice to use. From having to figure out the text commands to properly get my motherboards optical output working; or having to figure out the text commands to get the latest AMD drivers installed so I can use CCC and get the hdmi scaling fixed on my secondary display. It was all very time consuming and not readily apparent and easily done. Getting software from the software download center was easy, but then installing software not from the download center often had me going into the command line. Time and time again I was having to go to read me files and learn code to get things to work. I have never ever had to do that on Windows XP or later, or on OSX. And I think that severely degrades the experience. I also just feel that the Linux distros I have tried simply lack the polish of Windows 7 or OSX, they feel very much like XP to me yet without XP's software compatibility and with more dependence on the command line. And I absolutely hate those jiggling windows when you turn up the graphical settings in Ubuntu, ugh. When I use Linux I feel like its telling me to screw off because I dont want to learn the command line short cuts and I am not satisfied with whatever it automatically chooses.[/citation]

Linux isn't ubuntu though, there are plenty of other distro's out there that might give you better results and plenty of other choice's with regards to window managers and desktop environment's etc...

It sounds like most of your issues is down to general unfamiliarity with the OS, i could say similar things about my experience windows 7, i still had to download drivers for my sound card, touchpad and AMD graphics card not to mention get an antivirus program setup, where in linux all those things worked out of the box, and i still found windows 7 to be slow and lacking in customization options, with linux i have almost limitless customization options to choose from.

You could run a 10GB linux dual boot along side windows to experiment with, you might end up finding something you like.

 

[guzz46]

[citation][nom]ericburnby[/nom]Linux cannot run any of the engineering software I use. That makes it completely useless to me as a developer.[/citation]

I'm talking about tasks and such that linux can't do, not specific pieces of software it can run, as there is software in linux that won't run on windows either.

thats because its FREE. ypu DONT have to spend a single penny on it. you want to get things for free, and you crib about quality?
just pay for windows/os x and then for an antivirus and then pay for every software you use, and then DONT complain

Firefox, Chromium etc... are free so its not always a case of you get what you pay for.

 

[Marco925]

[citation][nom]stm1185[/nom]0SX 11 Liger[/citation]
Wouldn't that be OS 11 or OSXI?

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]guzz46[/nom]Linux isn't ubuntu though, there are plenty of other distro's out there that might give you better results and plenty of other choice's with regards to window managers and desktop environment's etc... It sounds like most of your issues is down to general unfamiliarity with the OS, i could say similar things about my experience windows 7, i still had to download drivers for my sound card, touchpad and AMD graphics card not to mention get an antivirus program setup, where in linux all those things worked out of the box, and i still found windows 7 to be slow and lacking in customization options, with linux i have almost limitless customization options to choose from. You could run a 10GB linux dual boot along side windows to experiment with, you might end up finding something you like.[/citation]

I will admit that Linux, or well Ubuntu did not require a driver install for basic functionality; which is often the case with Windows.

Yet since I need more advanced functionality, I had to go find new drivers anyway, and doing so and installing and getting them working properly was significantly more annoying then for Windows, which is usually just, click, click, click, click, click, click, click restart. Never had this issue on a Mac but then again the hardware is so tightly controlled how can they.

With the Anti Virus. I am guessing you think you need to have one with Windows, and you think you do not with Linux because well no one really takes the time to write malware for Linux. I have never run anti virus; and I have never had an issue; but then I also never download unknown files from random people. Ill grant that if you are the type to torrent a bunch of flies from random sources that you have a significantly reduced chance of getting malware with Linux, but also OSX.

As for Speed, I really can not tell the difference in the OS. Though the only shared app I use in both is Chrome. On my desktop both Ubuntu and 7 seems snappy and responsive, and page loads appear almost instant.

For customization I am guessing you mean things like changing out the GUI, and other stuff that is going to involve a fair bit of complication and time to get it working, and for me I would rather not mess with it. The appearance customization in Ubuntu did not appear to me to be any different then what software like Window Blinds offers.

I do currently have a 50gig partition with Ubuntu on it, but I have not really found any reason to boot into it after the novelty wore off. So maybe it is time to try another Distro.

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]Marco925[/nom]Wouldn't that be OS 11 or OSXI?[/citation]

After I realized that I thought up this response.

OSX 11 = 10.11

 

[alyoshka]

For all you know it could be just OX
LOL.... the OS OX
Hard working, work horse and powerful like the lion.....

I'm not an apple user but they sure do come up with cool names....
Makes a lot of sense to name a OS after an animal, soon killing the OS named after an endangered species is going to be a crime.....

 

[Guest]

I love my ubuntu box. My HTPC box has never been so stable, it boots in no time and plays anything I throw at it.

Yes there is the pain of getting the optical sc3 sound working. But once I have figured out how to do it. I can now set the htpc up from a formatted disk to configured with media apps updates etc in about 30min ~ 40min.

While I understand most people just want something to work... well that takes effort and if you invest that effort into Linux it just works..... PERIOD!

 

[guzz46]

I have had a few viruses in my windows days despite running bitdefender antivirus, but i don't worry about them anymore, its not because no one writes viruses for linux its the design of the OS, like not being logged in as admin and not using executable files etc..

If you really want to feel the difference speed wise try something lighter like xfce but not xubuntu, try debian squeeze with xfce, my 64bit debian xfce install uses only 150mb of ram after boot and thats with compiz running and is very snappy, but you will need to install some themes to make it look nicer, but i can understand if you don't want to bother with that.

 

[Lekko]

It's a Lion?! GET IN THE CAR!

 

[athreex]

[citation][nom]Marco925[/nom]Tigers... lions... Leopards... is there a feline we haven't used yet?[/citation]

OSX LOLCat

 

[eddieroolz]

Let's see what Lion takes from Windows 7 this time around.

You know, kind of like how Leopard came with a translucent menu bar. Not unlike Aero 😉

 

[super_tycoon]

nothing gets the commenters going like a worthless apple post

 

[back_by_demand]

OSX Pussy

Very fitting considering the user base

 

[idisarmu]

[citation][nom]stm1185[/nom]I forgot the "well as" part from the previous post I was referring too. So to clarify Linux does not do gaming as well as Windows.After installing and running Ubuntu 10.10 for the last few days alongside Windows 7 I do find it to not be anywhere as nice to use. From having to figure out the text commands to properly get my motherboards optical output working; or having to figure out the text commands to get the latest AMD drivers installed so I can use CCC and get the hdmi scaling fixed on my secondary display. It was all very time consuming and not readily apparent and easily done. Getting software from the software download center was easy, but then installing software not from the download center often had me going into the command line. Time and time again I was having to go to read me files and learn code to get things to work. I have never ever had to do that on Windows XP or later, or on OSX. And I think that severely degrades the experience. I also just feel that the Linux distros I have tried simply lack the polish of Windows 7 or OSX, they feel very much like XP to me yet without XP's software compatibility and with more dependence on the command line. And I absolutely hate those jiggling windows when you turn up the graphical settings in Ubuntu, ugh. When I use Linux I feel like its telling me to screw off because I dont want to learn the command line short cuts and I am not satisfied with whatever it automatically chooses.[/citation]

Well, then you suck at using google. Linux is easy as pie if you simply have your browser open alongside the terminal.