Apple Banning iPhone Hackers From Store

[Hilarion]

[citation][nom]techguy378[/nom]Ever heard of licensing agreements? Apple can legally tell you what software you can and cannot run on your iPhone. If you run unauthorized software on your iPhone, Apple can sue you and they would probably win. Apple can also legally brick your jailbroken or unlocked iPhone by any means necessary as long as this is in the license agreement (it very likely is). This includes remotely disabling your iPhone, assuming Apple has that capability.[/citation]
Apple is selling you a real and tangible piece of hardware and telling you that you do not own what you have bought. They are telling you you can only run it they way they tell you to, they are telling you that if you don't they can do something to keep you from using the product that you bought. In other words they will "steal" the product you purchased and own from you.

That is like a car manufacturer telling you you can only drive the car that you purchased on certain types of roads or only have it serviced by their dealers or they will send a signal and shut it down so you can't use it anymore. In which case they would be the thieves by removing the use of the property that you have purchased from you. This is exactly what Apple Almighty is trying to convince the Apple sheep of. Sadly the Apple sheep are falling for it.

EULA's are an untested means of throwing legal sounding boiler-plate to remove ownership from the purchaser while trying to retain control by the seller. AFIK this has not truly been tested in the courts at this time but I'd like to see it challenged.

 

[brendano257]

[citation][nom]r3t4rd[/nom]Stupid no "Edit" button. I count...two paragraphs relating to the topic. Therefore your assessment of two sentences is rather off. Also when Hilary Clinton and Apple are together in the same sentence, that just sends signal for some major bashing. Lastly, who are you to tell me to stop my biased flaming? This is a blog. Blogs are filled with polar opinions and views, even if its biased ones that you hate. In a perfect world, my friend, we would be sipping tea and talking about quantum computing.[/citation]


First you talk about whinning kids in L4D, and then go on a sub tangent about Hillary Clinton, which is not really related to the argument, although someone did comment about it, it wasn't really necessary to expand on.

Who am I? I am someone looking to read insightful comments and interesting views on a well written article. However, this doesn't happen very often. I don't care that some people like Microsoft or other companies more, I expect it. This is a hardware based forum for most users, therefore it can pretty much be assumed that the vast majority would not appreciate a simple or non customizable product.

That is not the problem though, the problem is the ignorant and crude posts such as "FUCK APPLE!!!!" that accomplish nothing but crudely communicate the fact that the user doesn't like Apple. There is no argument, reason, or justification for this. I have no problem with a legitimate debate over a company's business practices or products, but when it comes to horribly written ignorant responses without any reason or justification, it becomes annoying to read, and just plain distateful. Not to mention that the vast majority is trolls who've decided to side with Microsoft. I bet if I post "FUCK M$!!!!!" on an article, it will get thumbed down atleast 5 times, yet someone posts "FUCK APPLE!!!!" and gets 10 thumbs up. Regardless of the company, neither post is thoughtful, interesting, or even remotely engaging. They're simple statements of rage with no reason, most likely a little kid who's now giggling "ehehehe I gotz 10 thumbs up!!! ))" It's pathetic and sad, and there's no reason for it whatsoever.

This is my point and reason for posting anti-flaming/trollish posts.

 

[helldog3105]

No matter where you post brendano257 you are going to get a mixing of various levels of comments. For the most part the comments on Toms are good. Don't let the few that post in such vulgar terms upset you. It may be that to convey his feelings towards apple the poster felt the quickest and most efficient way to do so was to say "Fuck Apple!". I do not dislike apple products completely but I have issues with certain aspects. They do indeed lock everything down tightly to the point where you have no control over aspects of your hardware that every other company gives you. Take the Macbooks. Why is it that you cannot remove the battery? We know from other laptops that the best way to use the battery on a notebook is the use as much of the charge (hopefully down till only 5-10% is left) then recharge the battery then. But we also know that if we drain the battery, remove it and set it aside while we are on the adapter the battery will last longer. Apple doesn't give you that option. The battery isn't removable. An option to make your purchase last longer has been removed from you. And to top it all off, how much does that replacement battery and service cost? I know that I can buy a replacement battery for my notebook for approximately 150 USD and that's a 9 cell Lithium battery. Apple support lists it at 179 to replace the battery in a Macbook Pro 15 or 17 inch, a fair price. But the Best Buy, the only Apple certified store in the area charges 300 USD. This inability to remove the battery appears to be done for purely cosmetic reasons in that it allows for a unibody for the notebook. I don't care about seams and lines in my notebook, if the battery dies I don't want to have to take it someplace and pay a service charge for it. I can do that myself and all of my friends that use Macs can do that themselves as well, so why take away the ability for them to do so? Also on the story I must comment, why block a jail-broken phones ability to legally purchase software? That seems backwards in that they restrict you from purchasing legal software, making people resort to piracy and other app stores from which apple makes no money.

 

[helldog3105]

Sorry my apologies I just noticed that it's 129 USD listed for the 15 and 13 inch Macbook. I apologize for the incorrect numbers.

 

[applocalypse]

Ine more sign of the coming Applocalypse.

Jonathan Ive is the first rider, and the iPod his white horse. He is the false prophet spreading music downloads to the masses like some kind of new religion. Many unsuspecting souls were baptized in the digital river of iTunes.

Jon Rubenstein is the second rider, and the Palm Pre his red horse. He spreads conflict and war with his coming, inciting the masses to fight for the iTunes they longed for. He is the trickster, wearing many faces and USB identifiers in his quest to sew hate among the unsync'd masses.

Steve Jobs is the third rider, the iPad his dark horse. He brings with him famine and drought, starving the masses of their multimedia sustenance and cheap books. His vision is singular in purpose, because people don't need to have multiple visions going at the same time anyway.

Who can predict the forth rider's identity, and what pale horse he will ride. Although it could be Steve Jobs, since he has been looking rather pale lately. But that rider will bring death to the computer world as we know it, the broken corpses of desktops and laptops crushed beneath the onslaught of handheld devices. The seals have been broken, the riders have unleashed their evil plans upon the world. Nothing can be done to stop what looms ahead.

The Applocalypse is upon us.........doom....Doom.....DOOM!!!!!

 

[techguy378]

What the hell is wrong with Tom's Guide's comments section? Most of the comments section is grayed out. I'm surprised it let me comment at all.

Anyways, @Hilarion - You are paying money for the right to use a piece of hardware on AT&T (in the USA at least). If you don't like the license agreement you have the right to return your phone for a refund. If Apple wanted to they could also legally remove the BIOS compatibility module from Intel Mac's and tell you that you're only allowed to run Mac OS X and not Windows.

 

[Hilarion]

[citation][nom]techguy378[/nom]What the hell is wrong with Tom's Guide's comments section? Most of the comments section is grayed out. I'm surprised it let me comment at all.Anyways, @Hilarion - You are paying money for the right to use a piece of hardware on AT&T (in the USA at least). If you don't like the license agreement you have the right to return your phone for a refund. If Apple wanted to they could also legally remove the BIOS compatibility module from Intel Mac's and tell you that you're only allowed to run Mac OS X and not Windows.[/citation]
You speak like an Apple or AT&T employee or a true Apple Almighty Sheep.

I don't know about you, but I am buying a phone (not that I ever would buy an Apple product). I should have the right to plug that phone into AT&T or Verizon or..... Not many other choices are there... since they've bought just about everybody else to "monopolize" the playing field. I "BOUGHT" the phone. It is mine. THEN I pay for the "service" to use that phone. It should not matter what "service" I choose.

If I buy a phone and I don't like the service I am getting from the "service" provider I want to be able to choose another "service" provider to use MY phone on.

This is just like the old "Ma Bell" government authorized monopoly in play here where you could only get a phone from them to use on their network.

You can hold any opinion that you like. I am tired of companies telling me that something I buy is not mine but theirs. You should be also, unless, of course, you LIKE being "owned".....