Apple is Talking About the New iPhones Right Now

[chickenhoagie]

[citation][nom]frozenlead[/nom]...and what exactly is the difference?[/citation]
to me, the difference is quality. the iphone is virtually an ipod touch that includes calling, 3g and text messaging. When companies make droids, what they have in mind is not the mp3 aspect of their phones, but the apps, their application store, and the overall quality of their OS and hardware. I'm not saying droids are bad phones. If the iPhone didn't have such a great mp3 player on it, I would for sure go to a droid. I'll admit, HTC Evo's are pretty sexy. and the Galaxy's look pretty nice too. But I've weighed the pro's and con's of both products and I still continue to use the iphone. I love music, and the mp3 player works great for me which is why I love it. App store isn't the greatest, but its solidly built just like many other droid phones are, it calls and texts easy just like many droid phones are, and with the new iphone coming out now the hardware will be back up to par with all other droid phones. Apple could for sure free up their hardware and software limitations, but I always find a way around my issues so I'm not complaining

- Typed from my homebuilt PC - for you fanboy accusers.

 

[iceman1992]

[citation][nom]blakbird24[/nom]It has...they didn't say that iOS is the "best selling" or "most used"...they just said number one. That leaves it open to whatever is the most convenient interpretation. If one were to say "Wait, Android is the number one selling mobile OS, not iOS!", Apple could then reply "yeah...but iOS is the BEST mobile OS, the general public feels that it is number 1"...or something to that effect. No false advertising...just clever manipulation of fact. That's what marketing experts get paid to do.[/citation]
oh yeah. i misread that because they put the number of sales behind. clever play of words 😉

 

[blackened144]

[citation][nom]blakbird24[/nom]..at the iPhone 5's launch, there are already better phones available. This is, I believe, the first time Apple has found itself in this position.[/citation]

Actually assuming the iPhone5 is using the same A5 silicon from the ipad2, then it will be the most powerful phone on the market until Tegra3 devices come along.. And it still has advantages like the highest resolution screen and best battery life.. So you have to take a very narrow view of what phones are "better" if you are going to assume its something other than the next iPhone..

 

[house70]

[citation][nom]Anderoo16[/nom]The suspense is killing me[/citation]
The irony is strong with this one...

 

[quantum mask]

[citation][nom]chickenhoagie[/nom]Why would I buy a $200 droid and then need an mp3 player on top of that to store my music when I could just use an iphone? Some of you will say "you can put music on a droid too," but to me, it just isn't the same.[/citation]
You obviously have NEVER seen an android device handle music. You would never need to buy an MP3 player in addition to it, it does everything an MP3 player can do and more and it does not require iTunes or any other software. What makes android better at playing music is that I can do other things and play music at the same time. For example, while I'm driving and using the FREE navigation, I can still route the music through my radio while navigating. When it comes to multitasking Android is a beast.

 

[balister]

[citation][nom]Marcus Yam[/nom]New computer sales.[/citation]

Once again, not telling the truth. Macintosh sales for 2011 are up 23% over 2010, they are not accounting for 23% of all the new computers sold. The actual number of Macintosh computers being sold accounts for about 4% to 4.5% of all desktop/laptop computers sold in 2011.

 

[frozenlead]

[citation][nom]chickenhoagie[/nom]to me, the difference is quality. the iphone is virtually an ipod touch that includes calling, 3g and text messaging. When companies make droids, what they have in mind is not the mp3 aspect of their phones, but the apps, their application store, and the overall quality of their OS and hardware. I'm not saying droids are bad phones. If the iPhone didn't have such a great mp3 player on it, I would for sure go to a droid. I'll admit, HTC Evo's are pretty sexy. and the Galaxy's look pretty nice too. But I've weighed the pro's and con's of both products and I still continue to use the iphone. I love music, and the mp3 player works great for me which is why I love it. App store isn't the greatest, but its solidly built just like many other droid phones are, it calls and texts easy just like many droid phones are, and with the new iphone coming out now the hardware will be back up to par with all other droid phones. Apple could for sure free up their hardware and software limitations, but I always find a way around my issues so I'm not complaining - Typed from my homebuilt PC - for you fanboy accusers.[/citation]

So, you didn't give a reason on why you thought it was better other than "you like it". And MP3's are pretty low-quality files; it's not much to judge a phone (or even a music player) on.

 

[istank]

Apple is about to fail harder than Steve Jobs' liver.

 

[i7Rocks]

[citation][nom]blackened144[/nom]Actually assuming the iPhone5 is using the same A5 silicon from the ipad2, then it will be the most powerful phone on the market until Tegra3 devices come along.. And it still has advantages like the highest resolution screen and best battery life.. So you have to take a very narrow view of what phones are "better" if you are going to assume its something other than the next iPhone..[/citation]

yet as fast as it will be there is no 4g speed to back it up so yet again you will buy an inferior phone for a superior price. No thanks, ill stick with real multitasking, widgets, 4g speed, tethering, and my full qwerty keyboard.

 

[house70]

[citation][nom]blackened144[/nom]Actually assuming the iPhone5 is using the same A5 silicon from the ipad2, then it will be the most powerful phone on the market until Tegra3 devices come along.. And it still has advantages like the highest resolution screen and best battery life.. So you have to take a very narrow view of what phones are "better" if you are going to assume its something other than the next iPhone..[/citation]
Highest resolution is moot point for a screen the size of a phone. I LOL at iphoneys when they try to see their screens outdoors... turning against the sun or running for some shade. Meanwhile, my Nexus S (or any Samsung phone, for that matter) is clearly legible in plain sunlight. As far as the battery life... we'll see, if the hardware is as powerful as you say, the battery goes down much faster.
Oh, and this is me (are you ready for this?) replacing my battery with a better one whenever I need to. Currently I am running an extended battery that gives me 4-5 days of regular usage and fits inside my phone.
but, I guess a true apple-ite does not care about choices (as long as the choices are being made for them by apple).

 

[jojesa]

[citation][nom]Blessedman[/nom]Scott Forstall is up to talk iOS 5. It's the number 1 mobile OS with 250 million devices sold.Isn't this a fabrication of the truth?[citation][nom]baddad[/nom]I think your numbers are wrong.[/citation][/citation]

Devices sold and Mac users are different things.
A Mac user could have many devices.

 

[blubbey]

'Apple touts that Macs have grown by 23 percent while PC only 4 percent. '

Wouldn't the PC market only be able to grow so little anyway because PC's dominate the market.... what're the actual figures rather than %'s? Like, if something grows 1% but it has 1m already, then if there's only one and grows 1000%, that's not even close yet you skew it in your favour. %'s are relative, WTB actual figures if possible. Thanks.

[citation][nom]chickenhoagie[/nom]You could've just said people buy the iphone because its a good, solid phone that is both appealing and meets peoples' everyday needs. I'm not an Apple fanboy but c'mon..lets not sugarcoat something we know is envyingly true. I mean c'mon, you combine an ipod with a phone thats exactly what everybody wants. Why would I buy a $200 droid and then need an mp3 player on top of that to store my music when I could just use an iphone? Some of you will say "you can put music on a droid too," but to me, it just isn't the same.[/citation]
I've had the same phone for 4/5 years, bought a 16gb card and it's all I need for now. Will upgrade when there's a good deal on a quad core in a year or 2. Sure, the OS is nice to use, it feels like a nice product (physically, it's well made but it's not something you want to drop that's for sure) and it has a nice mp3 player but iTunes is over-rated, the phones themselves aren't that good (hardware wise) and it's over-priced for what it is. The people who I know that have iPhones only bought them as a statement (fashion and the like) and a lack of knowledge on other products (hey they're iPhones, they've got to be the best). That's it. If you've done your research, used them all and made an informed decision, I can't complain with that (I commend it infact).

Just blind sheepishness/fanboyism (are they words? D making people believe they're the best just because it comes from Apple is absurd.

 

[brett1042002]

[citation][nom]quantum mask[/nom]You obviously have NEVER seen an android device handle music. You would never need to buy an MP3 player in addition to it, it does everything an MP3 player can do and more and it does not require iTunes or any other software. What makes android better at playing music is that I can do other things and play music at the same time. For example, while I'm driving and using the FREE navigation, I can still route the music through my radio while navigating. When it comes to multitasking Android is a beast.[/citation]

^ Agreed

My Motorola Atrix software syncs my iTunes and non-iTunes music to my phone just fine.

I came from a iPhone 3GS too. LOVE my Atrix. Does everything my iPhone did, and more.

 

[silver565]

Ugh... now all the iSheep will be back talking about the new revolutionary devices...

 

[balister]

So, now that most of the information is out, Nexus Prime is definitely going to kill the iPhail 4GS. No 4G, no wimax (which everyone was wanting), only slightly better battery life, and really very little to make people want it.

 

[ben850]

Damn. If all they have to offer is the 4S, then I'm jumping ship. Will either get the GS2 or wait for Nexus Prime. Apple can officially kiss my ass. They had ample time to adjust their game and be competitive with everyone else, and they chose not to.

 

[markheber]

[citation][nom]iceman1992[/nom]i thought android had overtaken iOS long ago??[/citation]
iOS has had years to sell more copies than Android. The only area that Android can definitively say it is best is with current sales. If you have to say that one OS is THE BEST then it would have to be Blackberry...........or any other OS that you personally like.

 

[istank]

[citation][nom]blackened144[/nom]Actually assuming the iPhone5 is using the same A5 silicon from the ipad2, then it will be the most powerful phone on the market until Tegra3 devices come along.. And it still has advantages like the highest resolution screen and best battery life.. So you have to take a very narrow view of what phones are "better" if you are going to assume its something other than the next iPhone..[/citation]

Wrong mister!!! Raw processing power goes to the Tegra 2. The A5 and Tegra 2 are nearly identical for raw power except for the cache, the Tegra 2 has nearly double the cache. Apple has done a great job with optimizing the OS for the A5 making it benchmark great. But, with the restrictions placed on the iDevices there is no way that any of them can perform on the same level as their competitors on a Tegra 2. IF Apple were to use the Tegra 2 and optimize the OS for that processor you would see even better results.

 

[silver565]

[citation][nom]istank[/nom]Wrong mister!!! Raw processing power goes to the Tegra 2. The A5 and Tegra 2 are nearly identical for raw power except for the cache, the Tegra 2 has nearly double the cache. Apple has done a great job with optimizing the OS for the A5 making it benchmark great. But, with the restrictions placed on the iDevices there is no way that any of them can perform on the same level as their competitors on a Tegra 2. IF Apple were to use the Tegra 2 and optimize the OS for that processor you would see even better results.[/citation]


Nailed it

 

[quantum mask]

[citation][nom]ben850[/nom]Damn. If all they have to offer is the 4S, then I'm jumping ship. Will either get the GS2 or wait for Nexus Prime. Apple can officially kiss my ass. They had ample time to adjust their game and be competitive with everyone else, and they chose not to.[/citation]
Agreed. If anyone remembers, this is the same mistake Palm made. They had the market for a while. Then they sat on their laurels while WM6 caught up from behind and surpassed them. We loyal Palm users had to sit and watch other mobile phones make advancements. Seems like the same scenario for iPhone now.