Apple: Sorry, No Siri for Older iPhones

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[citation][nom]amk-aka-Phantom[/nom]Enough of this BS... it's been already established that Siri works on older Apple devices, just Apple doesn't want to put it there. It's the only selling point for iPhone 4S; there's NOTHING new there otherwise.[/citation]

It is not by any stretch of the imagination the only selling point of the iPhone 4S.

Being the fastest phone ever made isn't relevant through your biased eyes? Come on.
 
[citation][nom]cadder[/nom]If Siri depends on the functioning of Apple servers ("cloud") then it might be forever crippled as we have just seen.My daughter has the new phone with Siri and she was never able to get one useful bit of information from it over the entire weekend.It is an interesting idea though, maybe Google will run with it and actually make it work.Even if ios5 would provide Siri to older devices, that would mean that you would have to have some way to get ios5 ONTO the older device, and most users don't have that.[/citation]

Siri is not difficult to use. If you can't get any 'useful' information out of it, you must be doing something very wrong. It's designed to be idiot proof, but I guess even that concept has limits.
 
[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]It's rather sad that Apple screws over it's most loyal customers with BS like this. I bet Siri would run just fine on a 3GS.[/citation]

Lets compare to poor Nexus Prime customers. They may have bought their phone 7 months ago, and aren't even receiving the ICS update. Even the 3GS got iOS 5 and that's far older.

Bear in mind, too, that the 3GS and 4 can still use all the rubbish alternatives which are available on Android, such as Vlingo. Many blind Android fans have been going on about how Siri is no much better, so by their own logic 3GS and 4 users are not missing out on anything.
 
[citation][nom]amk-aka-Phantom[/nom]Yep, there's nothing new. Faster CPU, GPU and a bit better camera - SO?! When SGS2 was released, it gained USB-on-the-Go, bigga screen, LED flash (didn't have before)... THAT's new "stuff". Gaining a few more fps in Angry Birds is not. I wouldn't give a $h!t about Samsung phones, but they kept asking their customers on FB/Twitter/etc. about what they want in a new phone (SGS2) and added it ALL, except battery life - thanks to the stupid thin trend introduced by crApple. THAT is customer loyalty... unlike some other company (Nokia) that asked its customers about what they want in the next phone after N8 and STILL hasn't done it.@ Tom's: here's some actual news you can post instead of chewing on this Siri BS:1) Adobe drops development of Flash Player on mobile devices and invests moar into HTML5 and PC content2) Nokia is going to release a "flagship" device by Q2 2012 which will have ridiculous 1GHz CPU and 512 RAM but will have a great camera3) Mass Effect 3 info leaked along with the beta4) MW3 benchmarks - for teh lulzIn other words, get busy.[/citation]

For many people, a better camera and a much faster phone overall is far more important than using retro outdated technology such as USB on a phone. It also has a much faster dual speed antenna, it can wirelessly synchronise to a television (which the Samsung and indeed almost every Android phone still cannot do), it has embedded iCloud and of course iOS 5 brought lots of software updates too. They also massively increased the storage to 64GB. The improvements to the camera should not be understated either - a massive massive improvement making it one of the best cameras you can get, and adding HD video recording That's before we include Siri. The iPhone 4S is a MUCH much bigger jump from the iPhone than the Samsung Galaxy S2 was from the Galaxy S.

When you can connect it to any wireless network, use bluetooth, email, or use dropbox, having USB connectivity is just ridiculous and pointless - clearly not something the average consumer wants or needs. A bigger screen is very much an incremental change, not a massive change, some people prefer smaller screens and don't want to carry around a brick so that's actually a negative in some cases. As for LED flash, it's only a new feature because of the fact that the first phone was so pathetic to not even have one.
 
[citation][nom]hoofhearted[/nom]@Monkeysweat -- come on ... That is Apple's whole design behind MAC OS. There are tons of computers out there that will run Mac OS (hence the OSX86 project). Apple just forces their hardware down your throat. Same x86 hardware, double the price and 'chip' the motherboard for MacOS authenticate. This whole thing is a fabricated scenario. But then again, Dell isn't much better when it comes to laptop power supplies as their are 'chipped' too.More fuel for the fire to make me feel better about my switch from iPhone 3GS to a Galaxy 2(*) Can replace battery for $12.(*) Can add your own 32G SD card for $50. Apple has to be so stupid for not offering removable storage as they make 30% of the app market.(*) can tether without having to jailbreak or sign up for stupid tether plan (on apple you had to play the jailbreak vs can't update to try new apps game)(*) no itunes BS. Google music blow it away in terms of portability,[/citation]

1 - You can get a portable battery charger for the iPhone for $12. It's no bigger than a battery and no more expensive, and does the same thing.

2 - With cloud storage such as iCloud, or any other ones like Dropbox, the need for storage is decreasing, but with a maximum storage of 64gb available on the top model you have plenty even compared to other phones with removable storage. It's also much, much quicker to access. Removable storage is slow.

3 - Tethering when it's not covered by your phone contract is illegal, and may result in higher fees later on when the provider notices your usage patterns. This is an area they are paying particular attention to developing software which analyses usage and can detect tethering. It's equivalent to downloading music illegally. It genuinely makes you a criminal. Not much of a selling point.

4 - No iTunes BS? You don't need iTunes, to use an iPhone, at all - not even once. Simple. You can also use Google Music on an iPhone if you want.
 
[citation][nom]ickarumba1[/nom]Apple used to be the small business, who criticized 'big bad' Microsoft's business practices. They used to represent the 'little guy', the customers.Now, they're this huge money-hungry corporation with no respect for their customers, which makes the hypocrites.[/citation]

It makes you a hypocrite too, unless you agreed with Apple back then.
 
[citation][nom]monsta[/nom]Ah apple one day your fan bois will wake up and stop buying your products. Having to purchase a brand new iphone everytime they get released to get all its new features is just insulting peoples intelligence. Locking out everyone else with your older phones is delibarate.....wake up people you are being ripped off.[/citation]

Please refer to Nexus Prime comment. At least 3GS and 4 received iOS 5.
 
How long did it take android developers to knock up a version of this. All they need is to port it to iOS and presto, problem solved, they're slightly richer and everyone is happy.
 
I think Siri is pretty much just a speech to text convert and vice versa, and sends the text to Apple's servers that does all the computation. There is no technological reason why it is not supported by device other than the iphone 4s. I know it can add stuff to your calendar such as appointments and other things like that, but that isn't much of a technology hurdle.
 
LOL -Unless you are a gamer or stream movies to watch in your rich idleness, smart phones are probably a big waste of money. Android devices don't to do "normal" stuff very well and there is no compatibility with regular Office applications (it is very difficult to set up multiple domain-based e-mail accounts on many Android devices). Likewise, I simply refuse to pay the Boatman's fee for Apple's passage to Nirvana.

I believe the best of all possible worlds would be to wait until the first or second update for Mango 7.5 and get a new Windows flip phone(for screen protection). That should do everything a normal person needs provided it allows for tethering of my laptop for Web access as no smart phones natively run speech recognition yet.

BTW, if Siri proves to be as revolutionary as it is hyped to be and can be made to work without paying a $100 a month fee for a constant connection to 'The Cloud' (and doesn't map our lives for every marketer to use), it will be made available in some form for all platforms.
 
[citation][nom]Wizwill[/nom]LOL -Unless you are a gamer or stream movies to watch in your rich idleness, smart phones are probably a big waste of money. Android devices don't to do "normal" stuff very well and there is no compatibility with regular Office applications (it is very difficult to set up multiple domain-based e-mail accounts on many Android devices). Likewise, I simply refuse to pay the Boatman's fee for Apple's passage to Nirvana.I believe the best of all possible worlds would be to wait until the first or second update for Mango 7.5 and get a new Windows flip phone(for screen protection). That should do everything a normal person needs provided it allows for tethering of my laptop for Web access as no smart phones natively run speech recognition yet. BTW, if Siri proves to be as revolutionary as it is hyped to be and can be made to work without paying a $100 a month fee for a constant connection to 'The Cloud' (and doesn't map our lives for every marketer to use), it will be made available in some form for all platforms.[/citation]

You don't have to pay a fee to use Siri, you don't have to be a customer of 'iCloud'. You can use your existing wireless internet at home, or if you want to use it on the move, your existing mobile data plan. I'm sure that many Android developers will try to equal the functionality given enough time.
 
And that is why I am not buying any more apple products. Me and my wife both have iphone 4's, i have an ipad, she wanted an imac which I was planning on getting her for christmas, I have 2 iphone docks, and an alpine stereo in my car with the charger...

So sick of itunes, and apple's dictatorship over everything apple. Everytime I find something I like on apple, there is some kind of catch. Itunes SUCKS!! Had siri on my phone for a year and loved it. Now they do this.

Now all apple products are banned in my house, never buying apple products again. Can't wait till my contract on my phone is up so I can trade up for windows 8 or android phone..
 
[citation][nom]upgrade_1977[/nom]And that is why I am not buying any more apple products. Me and my wife both have iphone 4's, i have an ipad, she wanted an imac which I was planning on getting her for christmas, I have 2 iphone docks, and an alpine stereo in my car with the charger... So sick of itunes, and apple's dictatorship over everything apple. Everytime I find something I like on apple, there is some kind of catch. Itunes SUCKS!! Had siri on my phone for a year and loved it. Now they do this. Now all apple products are banned in my house, never buying apple products again. Can't wait till my contract on my phone is up so I can trade up for windows 8 or android phone..[/citation]

You don't need to use iTunes on your iPhones.
 
[citation][nom]watcha[/nom]You don't need to use iTunes on your iPhones.[/citation]

Be nice if I could actually transfer stuff from my pc to iphone drag and drop like android or windows. Cloud is painfully slow, even on 12mb wifi. Have to sync everything!?!?! Really?!?!

I'm sorry, I should have stated, "apples software sucks!!"
 
[citation][nom]upgrade_1977[/nom]Be nice if I could actually transfer stuff from my pc to iphone drag and drop like android or windows. Cloud is painfully slow, even on 12mb wifi. Have to sync everything!?!?! Really?!?! I'm sorry, I should have stated, "apples software sucks!!"[/citation]

You can drag and drop stuff from your pc, using any of the thousands of apps that do this, or by using Dropbox or iCloud.

You don't need to sync at all.
 
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