Apple Was a 'Pain in the A$$', so MSFT Got Kinect

[nottheking]

[citation][nom]adamboy64[/nom]Lots of them.I'd think developers are still trying to find a way to make their complex and detailed games work without any buttons.... I'm not trolling here, i'm being serious.[/citation]
That's correct... It's the real reason why a lot of major series have had difficulty coming to the Wii; the controller lacks the quantity of buttons the PS2, Xbox/360, as well as GC controllers have had, sporting but one analog stick and 8 buttons (the 1 and 2 inconveniently placed) vs. 2 sticks and 10 buttons for the PS2 and Xbox/360. It's not actually the hardware; a variety of games have shown that it's just a matter of either bumping down visuals, or increasing the number of loading screens/checkpoints, will get the same games running.

Hence why I do agree with your prediction for lots of dancing games; it'll basically be the Kinect's form of bandwagon shovelware. For all its brilliance in technology, it all boils down to "it's all about the games;" fancy tech demo demonstrations are NOT as fun to play as watch, and they grow old after 5 minutes. And dancing games are the one thing that everyone can figure out how to fully use Kinect for. Hence, everyone will be rushing to cash in on that potential market at once, entirely flooding it.

The open question is whether Kinect will survive that initial surge of games, which will likely not be all that great on average. I'm sure there's plenty of amazing game concepts for it, but we will NOT be seeing them immediately... We have to cross our fingers to hope Kinect survives to see them, instead of falling and becoming tarnished during the bandwagon phase.

 

[lightbulbsocket]

[citation][nom]ConsumerTech[/nom]@hellwigI believe China tops the Israeli government on poaching technology, and this is a private company not the Israeli government, Israel actually develop a lot of very good tech in the hope of leveraging it for security purposes, some of it, like PrimeSense makes it's way into consumer tech, i would have loved to know what the original 'security' purpose for this thing was[/citation] If I had to guess I'd say the primary purpose of PrimeSense's tech was originally to obtain biometric data. No two people move alike, the same way that no two people have the same fingerprint or retina pattern. They could use the tech in security cameras that would then be able to identify and track a person based on the way they move regardless of outward appearance.

 

[mrgouda]

Oh man, I love that pic of Steve Jobs.

Steve: This is how you're supposed to hold the new iphone.

 

[ordcestus]

[citation][nom]lightbulbsocket[/nom]If I had to guess I'd say the primary purpose of PrimeSense's tech was originally to obtain biometric data. No two people move alike, the same way that no two people have the same fingerprint or retina pattern. They could use the tech in security cameras that would then be able to identify and track a person based on the way they move regardless of outward appearance.[/citation]
Which would be very useful, could also have been used to facilitate training such as anaylisis of hand to hand combat or of help in correcting a soldiers firing stance

 

[climber]

[citation][nom]ikefu[/nom]Good thing Apple didn't get connect. They would have tried to patent all two handed gestures as "a new and innovative method of user input" and then run around suing every public speaker on the face of the earth for patent infringement.[/citation]
[citation][nom]ikefu[/nom]Good thing Apple didn't get connect. They would have tried to patent all two handed gestures as "a new and innovative method of user input" and then run around suing every public speaker on the face of the earth for patent infringement.[/citation]
Let 'em try and patent the "one fingered gesture!"

 

[dallaswits]

Anyone shocked by this?

 

[theshonen8899]

This just goes to show that just because Apple is different doesn't make it better.

 

[Guest]

Great technology with the Kinect! Will it work with my Wii?

 

[eddieroolz]

Explains Apple well.

 

[Guest]

what the hell are you people talking about? what technology exactly has been "borrowed" from other countries by israel?
Jews have the highest percentage of PHD's in their population than any other, thats the reason israeli research pumps out an enourmous amount of patents and technologies in relation to the size of the population. a huge chunck of that comes from the military because the most resources are alocated there.

 

[jamesedgeuk2000]

[citation][nom]greghome[/nom]no................Stevie is a pain the ass[/citation]

the iMove

 

[Guest]

Why on earth did he think Apple ws the natural home for Kinect? That is so far out there I can't even see it.

As other commenters have said, if Apple sold it, it would have been double the price.
Not only that, but HOW would they have sold it? Bundled with a Mac mini for over a THOUSAND dollars? Yeah, cuz Kinect would've really worked well with Photoshop.

What a dumb idea. Apple bad, Sony wouldn't have been much better than Apple in terms of pain in the assedness (and as good as the PS3 is, they do have a history of naff products - the PS move or whatever it is called just sucks)

The ONLY natural home for this product is Nintendo - who are not about to supersede the Wii, so that was a bust. In terms of 'big' players, Microsoft really was the only logical choice.

 

[hihiman1]

[citation][nom]zachary k[/nom]apple missed out on bungie and now this, smart moves...[/citation]
I was going to say the same, but we don't know if they're 'missing' out on Kinect yet.

 

[decepticon]

Apple should be called "Hassle".

 

[TEAMSWITCHER]

Is this tech news? Really? Apple is the most secret tech company in the world, and it works well for them. They are beating their competition to market by YEARS! That's the way they roll, if it's a pain in the ass, then so be it. Apple now has more revenue that any other tech company in the world.

Lets face the hard reality, the Kinect is going to be another expensive failure for M$. There are no compelling games, it's too expensive, it takes too much room, and you look like an idiot using it. Costco has a pile of these things sitting in our local warehouse and people walk past them without looking. Don't get suckered in by M$ hype, Kinect is DOA.

And why I'm on the subject Engadget reviewed all the Windows Phone's available in the US and the best one got a 7 out of 10 rating. A 7? Really? The phone to save us from our phones got only a 7? Really? Who'd trying to generate a reality distortion field now?

The Microsoft era is completely over. They haven't done anything that isn't a "me too" boring ass copy of something that is already on the market for over a decade. I'm done with them, and you should be too.

One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE!

 

[TEAMSWITCHER]

Is this tech news? Really? Apple is the most secret tech company in the world, and it works well for them. They are beating their competition to market by YEARS! That's the way they roll, if it's a pain in the ass, then so be it. Apple now has more revenue that any other tech company in the world.

Lets face the hard reality, the Kinect is going to be another expensive failure for M$. There are no compelling games, it's too expensive, it takes too much room, and you look like an idiot using it. Costco has a pile of these things sitting in our local warehouse and people walk past them without looking. Don't get suckered in by M$ hype, Kinect is DOA.

And why I'm on the subject Engadget reviewed all the Windows Phone's available in the US and the best one got a 7 out of 10 rating. A 7? Really? The phone to save us from our phones got only a 7? Really? Who'd trying to generate a reality distortion field now?

The Microsoft era is completely over. They haven't done anything that isn't a "me too" boring ass copy of something that is already on the market for over a decade. I'm done with them, and you should be too.

One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE!

 

[scrumworks]

[citation][nom]kartu[/nom]One missing detail: Sony was unimpressed and refused to buy it.[/citation]

So Sony went to hand held vibrators instead.

 

[awood28211]

Apple is what? Really? Who knew? OMG! This info is magical! /sarcasm

 

[Guest]

"You're not moving your body right"

 

[awood28211]

[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]Is this tech news? Really? Apple is the most secret tech company in the world, and it works well for them. They are beating their competition to market by YEARS! That's the way they roll, if it's a pain in the ass, then so be it. Apple now has more revenue that any other tech company in the world.Lets face the hard reality, the Kinect is going to be another expensive failure for M$. There are no compelling games, it's too expensive, it takes too much room, and you look like an idiot using it. Costco has a pile of these things sitting in our local warehouse and people walk past them without looking. Don't get suckered in by M$ hype, Kinect is DOA.And why I'm on the subject Engadget reviewed all the Windows Phone's available in the US and the best one got a 7 out of 10 rating. A 7? Really? The phone to save us from our phones got only a 7? Really? Who'd trying to generate a reality distortion field now?The Microsoft era is completely over. They haven't done anything that isn't a "me too" boring ass copy of something that is already on the market for over a decade. I'm done with them, and you should be tone last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE![/citation]

You're rant had good points (if backed by any evidence) until your last paragraph screamed "FANBOY"...

No one said your computer sucked. They said the company behind them did. And I agree.