Apple Was a 'Pain in the A$$', so MSFT Got Kinect

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foxalopex

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[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE![/citation]

Wow, do you even know what you're talking about here? What about the reports I've seen on the MacBook Pro's overheating? http://www.product-reviews.net/2010/04/27/new-macbook-pro-core-i7-models-seriously-overheating/ Rigid designs do not mean more solid objects. Toss a bean bag down a flight of stairs compared to a glass bottle. The glass bottle won't survive, the bean bag will because it can absorb shock. If you want light, look towards Sony's best laptops the Z series. They cost as much as a MacBook Pro does or more but they have a combination of weight and power that's really unmatched, i7 Core / 330M Nvidia card / 1920x1080 display / Carbon Fibre composite / SSD drives and optical drive. Can you find a MacBook Pro that plays blueray at full high definition? I don't think so... So yes, there are very innovative PC makers out there. You just need to look beyond the $500 garden variety PC laptops.
 

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[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]Is One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE![/citation]

Yes that is all well and good, but Apple stifles innovation by blocking developers and cherry picking a slim number of components for their devices driving up the cost and passing it onto the customer. Apple doesn't want to and can't compete with Microsoft on the OS front both of these company's OSes run on X86 CPUs, but Apple refuses to release OSX for the PC. And as far as quality of hardware Microsoft doesn't do PC hardware hence the "soft" in the name, you're beef is with the likes of Dell and HP. I'm not going to argue that Apple's products are not streamlined and awesome at what they do, but the trade offs aren't worth it to me. My Lenovo laptop looks good, runs great, is compatible with every piece of hardware and software on the market I don't want Apple restrictions or the Apple tax and I'm as happy with my hardware as you are with yours.

[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom] Apple now has more revenue that any other tech company in the world[/citation]

By they by there is a Billion Dollar gap between MS and Apple's profit margins. Apple is certainly gaining ground but is billions behind the world leaders in technology.
 

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[citation][nom]greghome[/nom]no................Stevie is a pain the ass[/citation]

Definitly, he even got fired from his own company at one point...now that's an achievement.
 

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[citation][nom]bildo123[/nom]Definitly, he even got fired from his own company at one point...now that's an achievement.[/citation]
Yes that was because of the failure of the original Macintosh (it's defects,limitations,lack of software,extremely high price (about $2,500), and because of all that lack of sales (about 1/10 the number Jobs predicted were sold (only around 150,000 of the first model).The concept of the Macintosh with it's GUI was great though again but it was a sales boondoggle failure.
Still Apple knew that the Macintosh with it's GUI was the future and came out with improved models later on the rest is history.
 

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[citation][nom]thegreathuntingdolphin[/nom]Wow... good thing Apple didn't get it. It would cost $599.[/citation]

Are you insane? It wouldn't cos that much.. it would only be $499.

 

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[citation][nom]foxalopex[/nom]Wow, do you even know what you're talking about here? What about the reports I've seen on the MacBook Pro's overheating? Rigid designs do not mean more solid objects. Toss a bean bag down a flight of stairs compared to a glass bottle. The glass bottle won't survive, the bean bag will because it can absorb shock. If you want light, look towards Sony's best laptops the Z series. They cost as much as a MacBook Pro does or more but they have a combination of weight and power that's really unmatched, i7 Core / 330M Nvidia card / 1920x1080 display / Carbon Fibre composite / SSD drives and optical drive. Can you find a MacBook Pro that plays blueray at full high definition? I don't think so... So yes, there are very innovative PC makers out there. You just need to look beyond the $500 garden variety PC laptops.[/citation]

Unfortunately your list of good arguments and examples falls on deaf ears. You're arguing with a Fanboi of the worst type. Twisting the facts or even flat out lying while attempting to make his company out to be the brother of Jesus is the only way he can (desperately) justify his sad purchase.
 

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Good for us. Apple would've made it soo expensive! Now that M$ needs to create some serious competition the price is not THAT high.
 

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[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]Is this tech news? Really? Apple is the most secret tech company in the world, and it works well for them. They are beating their competition to market by YEARS! That's the way they roll, if it's a pain in the ass, then so be it. Apple now has more revenue that any other tech company in the world.Lets face the hard reality, the Kinect is going to be another expensive failure for M$. There are no compelling games, it's too expensive, it takes too much room, and you look like an idiot using it. Costco has a pile of these things sitting in our local warehouse and people walk past them without looking. Don't get suckered in by M$ hype, Kinect is DOA.And why I'm on the subject Engadget reviewed all the Windows Phone's available in the US and the best one got a 7 out of 10 rating. A 7? Really? The phone to save us from our phones got only a 7? Really? Who'd trying to generate a reality distortion field now?The Microsoft era is completely over. They haven't done anything that isn't a "me too" boring ass copy of something that is already on the market for over a decade. I'm done with them, and you should be too_One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE![/citation]

No need for a complicated rebuttal (the subject is an Apple customer after all), you iCrap is made by Apple. Enough said.

[citation][nom]awood28211[/nom]You're rant had good points (if backed by any evidence) until your last paragraph screamed "FANBOY"...No one said your computer sucked. They said the company behind them did. And I agree.[/citation]

Well I just did.
 

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Good thing Apple didn't buy it!

Otherwise you would have to have a Mac Pro, a MacBook, an Ios device, and an iCrap of other sort, with at least $2500 spent in Itunes to join the "ultra-exclusive" club of those who could buy one for over a grand. //end sarcasm

Greatest way to kill an idea, because they would have patented it, and let no-one else use it.

Really though, just the thought of getting a Mac Pro and deal with Apple just to buy the Kinect (what else could possibly play games with Kinect? Ipad? Imac?) sends shivers down my spine.
 

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[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]"Apple is a pain in the ass,"...pretty much sums up Apple.[/citation]


so true , in every way from employees , contratctors to customers LOL
 

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[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]Is this tech news? Really? Apple is the most secret tech company in the world, and it works well for them. They are beating their competition to market by YEARS! That's the way they roll, if it's a pain in the ass, then so be it. Apple now has more revenue that any other tech company in the world.Lets face the hard reality, the Kinect is going to be another expensive failure for M$. There are no compelling games, it's too expensive, it takes too much room, and you look like an idiot using it. Costco has a pile of these things sitting in our local warehouse and people walk past them without looking. Don't get suckered in by M$ hype, Kinect is DOA.And why I'm on the subject Engadget reviewed all the Windows Phone's available in the US and the best one got a 7 out of 10 rating. A 7? Really? The phone to save us from our phones got only a 7? Really? Who'd trying to generate a reality distortion field now?The Microsoft era is completely over. They haven't done anything that isn't a "me too" boring ass copy of something that is already on the market for over a decade. I'm done with them, and you should be too_One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE![/citation]


you couldnt possibly be a bigger fanboy if you had a picture of steve slobs tattoed on your prick
jsut go crawl in a whole and die already you retard.
 

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[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]And why I'm on the subject Engadget reviewed all the Windows Phone's available in the US and the best one got a 7 out of 10 rating.[/citation]
Actually there are two phone with a ratting of 8.

[citation][nom]TEAMSWITCHER[/nom]One last thing...My MacBook Pro kicks the ever loving shit out of every sticker covered, butt-ugly, plastic, PC crap laptop ever made. There a good reason why it's more expensive, it's worth it. Apple has cracked the DNA of thin, light, and completely rigid designs with long battery life and great cooling. All you PC losers that think it is only a fashion statement, think again! It's the best laptop in the world today...Game, Set, Match - APPLE![/citation]
Yep the MacBook Pro is way better than any "pc" laptop.

Can you get a quad core MacBook Pro? No! Fortunately I can find a "PC" with one.

How about the GPU? The best Apple has to offer is the "weak" GTX330M. I can get a "PC" with a GTX4xx or even a Quadro.

Then there's the overheating problems with the MacBook Pro, specially the one with the i7. Like many people found out when the CPU is doing intensive work the temperature rises above 100ºC when a simple plastic "PC" with a copper heat-sink fares 20º lower. Worse even. Apple designed the laptop so that the unibody serves as heatsink. On certain parts of the keyboard temperatures rise above 40º. The cheap plastic "PC" doesn't have this problem too. With Apple it's form over function.

Thin laptop? The MacBook Air was never the thinnest laptop. When the original Air was launched in 2007 the thinnest laptop was the Mitsubishi Pedion launched 10 years earlier. The Pedion remained the thinnest laptop in history till the launch of the Dell Adamo. Then Dell launched the Adamo XPS that was even thinner. The new Air is almost twice thicker than the Adamo XPS.
 

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[citation][nom]jj463rd[/nom]Yes that was because of the failure of the original Macintosh (it's defects,limitations,lack of software,extremely high price (about $2,500), and because of all that lack of sales (about 1/10 the number Jobs predicted were sold (only around 150,000 of the first model).The concept of the Macintosh with it's GUI was great though again but it was a sales boondoggle failure.Still Apple knew that the Macintosh with it's GUI was the future and came out with improved models later on the rest is history.[/citation]
Don't you mean Xerox???
 

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[citation][nom]jj463rd[/nom]The concept of the Macintosh with it's GUI was great[/citation]
By 1983, the GUI was old hat. Many people confuse the Macintosh with the Apple I, and hence think Apple invented the GUI in 1976.

Even by then, though, that was old; almost every single modern interface technology, including the CONCEPT of a GUI, was developed by Douglas Englebart back in the 1960s. This even includes the mouse; Steve Jobs just decided that removing two buttons was "progress." The videoconferencing Mr. Jobs crowed about on the iPhone 4? Englebart had it working in 1968; which sounds more impressive, doing it on a 2010 phone, or a computer that existed before the CPU? (that was 3 years before Intel's 4004 would usher in the FOUR-bit era, folks)

Similarly, his system already demonstrated the GUI, windows, image editing, hyperlinked text, (a foundation of the Internet that wouldn't be born until ARPANET began a year later in 1969) and about every single communications/interface idea that we couldn't imagine living without today.

You see, even Xerox's Alto PC (1973, 3 years before Apple and 10 years before Mac) didn't even pioneer this; it was just perhaps the first commercial success with it. Also, some argue that the Alto was first because it had the first bitmapped screen buffer, though I consider that largely semantics, rather than based on tiled backgrounds. (after all, 2D consoles used tiled backgrounds, including the SNES, Genesis, GBA, and even Sega Saturn)

Again, Steve Jobs and his "revolutionary" Apple, Inc. have failed so far to invent a single new thing; they've just done a good job of spending billions to steal ideas and convince others that they came up with them.
 
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