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Bill Tuthill wrote:
> Steven M. Scharf <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:
>
>>Actually, ROI and ASP should be more of interest.
>>Selling mass quanitites of low end cameras may not make Kodak any money.
>>They lost $142 million in Q12005.
>
>
> I'd like to know the truth of the matter. Why is Kodak so unprofitable?
> Certainly all the bogus investments (ASF dry-process film) didn't help.
>
> But it's hard to believe they aren't making money from digicam sales.
> The EasyShare models sell at prices from $150 to $300, which is much more
> than the average sales price of film P&S cameras, and I doubt digicams
> are any more expensive to produce. Having #1 market share means Kodak
> has sufficient volume to easily recoup production costs.
>
> Kodak must be making money on film and paper sales. These are cash cows.
> Here is a relevant paragraph from their most recent 10-Q filing:
>
> The [3 or 5%] decrease in net sales was due to declines in price/mix
> and declines in volumes, which decreased first quarter sales by
> approximately 4.1% and 3.6%, respectively. The decrease in price/mix
> was primarily driven by the film capture Strategic Product Group
> (SPG), consumer digital capture SPG and the Health Group digital
> capture SPG. The decrease in volumes was primarily driven by declines
> in the film capture SPG, the wholesale and retail photofinishing
> portions of the consumer output SPG, and the Health Group digital output
> and film capture and output SPGs. These decreases were partially offset
> by increases attributable to the acquisition of NexPress Solutions, which
> contributed $78 million or approximately 2.7% to first quarter sales,
> and favorable exchange, which increased first quarter sales by ~ 1.9%.
>
> I think price/mix is Kodakspeak for margins. So the problems are that
> they were forced (or chose) to sell film, digicams and health care stuff
> at a lower price. Also film and photofinishing (but not digicams) did
> less business, plus Health Care did poorly. Fortunately the dollar
> was weak and NexPress (who?) is generating cash.
>
> I'm surprised Health Care did poorly. "This segment supplies the
> healthcare industry with traditional and digital image capture and
> output products and services." X-rays etc. Must be competition
> because health care spending certainly has not decreased lately.
> I'll check to see if my dentist is buying Fuji X-ray film.
Probably because a LOT of medical imaging is mostly digital these days.
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net
Bill Tuthill wrote:
> Steven M. Scharf <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote:
>
>>Actually, ROI and ASP should be more of interest.
>>Selling mass quanitites of low end cameras may not make Kodak any money.
>>They lost $142 million in Q12005.
>
>
> I'd like to know the truth of the matter. Why is Kodak so unprofitable?
> Certainly all the bogus investments (ASF dry-process film) didn't help.
>
> But it's hard to believe they aren't making money from digicam sales.
> The EasyShare models sell at prices from $150 to $300, which is much more
> than the average sales price of film P&S cameras, and I doubt digicams
> are any more expensive to produce. Having #1 market share means Kodak
> has sufficient volume to easily recoup production costs.
>
> Kodak must be making money on film and paper sales. These are cash cows.
> Here is a relevant paragraph from their most recent 10-Q filing:
>
> The [3 or 5%] decrease in net sales was due to declines in price/mix
> and declines in volumes, which decreased first quarter sales by
> approximately 4.1% and 3.6%, respectively. The decrease in price/mix
> was primarily driven by the film capture Strategic Product Group
> (SPG), consumer digital capture SPG and the Health Group digital
> capture SPG. The decrease in volumes was primarily driven by declines
> in the film capture SPG, the wholesale and retail photofinishing
> portions of the consumer output SPG, and the Health Group digital output
> and film capture and output SPGs. These decreases were partially offset
> by increases attributable to the acquisition of NexPress Solutions, which
> contributed $78 million or approximately 2.7% to first quarter sales,
> and favorable exchange, which increased first quarter sales by ~ 1.9%.
>
> I think price/mix is Kodakspeak for margins. So the problems are that
> they were forced (or chose) to sell film, digicams and health care stuff
> at a lower price. Also film and photofinishing (but not digicams) did
> less business, plus Health Care did poorly. Fortunately the dollar
> was weak and NexPress (who?) is generating cash.
>
> I'm surprised Health Care did poorly. "This segment supplies the
> healthcare industry with traditional and digital image capture and
> output products and services." X-rays etc. Must be competition
> because health care spending certainly has not decreased lately.
> I'll check to see if my dentist is buying Fuji X-ray film.
Probably because a LOT of medical imaging is mostly digital these days.
--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net