Best Buy CEO: iPad Halved Some Notebook Sales

[Guest]

This is Apple last change to win in the market before other flood the market. Hope they can win in the platform war.

 

[bamslang]

I like the idea of a tablet, but it's 3rd in line after having an up-to-date PC and laptop. Though I see the value of small netbook sized screens, I personally can't stand them to do any real work on. Sure they are fun for web browser games or surfing the internet in the living room, but if I’m going to be doing any real computing, it’s not going to be on a 7 inch screen.

As for the iPad, I won’t get one strictly because I know how much a premium I would be paying. If Mac had their price points around $300-$400 with a USB, front and rear camera, SD reader and at least 80GB of storage, sure I would buy one to chill with. But until Apple stops charging you a 50-100% product premium, I will not buy their products.

Same goes for the rest of their product lines. My desktop computer I built for ~$1000 will DESTROY anything Apple can sell under $2000. Oh, and I have yet to get a single virus using 2 simple, free programs (Firefox with NoScript and Avast).

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]Right... Dell's tablet is super innovative. It is so innovative that it requires you to drag a portable generator with you, just to keep it powered up.yeah and lets not talk about the weight of the freaking thing... Why even bother buying this and not a real laptop, when you cant even hold it in your hands for more than 10 minutes without getting cramps.Innovation at its best!LolololYes the iPad is an iPod touch but bigger, thats where the trick is, in the simplicity of the device. It has a very responsive GUI that allows users to surf the web, check emails and read e-books for 10 + hours with a single charge, and lets not talk about the rest of the 250,000 apps, games, and movies you can watch..... That's where Apple's innovation is, in the simplicity of the device.[/citation]

Wow.. spoken like a true Apple Fanboi. You can not accept that another company has come up with a better idea than your precious company, it just pierces your iPride so bad. You're right though, simpletons like simple things and you're right into the simple design of their products.

People who want to spend $500 on something that's actually useful and productive will spend it on something other than Apple's iFads.

Btw, since you seem to know already, what is the weight and battery life of Dell's convertible tablet?

 

[smeker]

[citation][nom]beayn[/nom]Wow.. spoken like a true Apple Fanboi. You can not accept that another company has come up with a better idea than your precious company, it just pierces your iPride so bad. You're right though, simpletons like simple things and you're right into the simple design of their products.People who want to spend $500 on something that's actually useful and productive will spend it on something other than Apple's iFads.Btw, since you seem to know already, what is the weight and battery life of Dell's convertible tablet?[/citation]

Haahaha, now I am an Apple fun boy because I am saying that you argument sucks.

Go and read a book, you lemming...

 

[Chemist87]

iPad is also good at halving bank accounts.

 

[milktea]

Best Buy? Wow, I haven't shop at Best Buy for such a long long time. I just wonder who shops at Best Buy nowadays.

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]Haahaha, now I am an Apple fun boy because I am saying that you argument sucks.Go and read a book, you lemming...[/citation]

But, you are a fanboy.

And you didn't answer the question, what does the Dell tablet weigh and how long is its battery life? You appeared to know. It looks more like your argument sucks.

 

[vant]

Do any of you have a history with tablets?

I've been a tablet fan pretty much since they became somewhat mainstream.

Starting with the used M200 provided by MS (used to be a CSG in Redmond) which I specifically asked for. I eventually upgraded to a new Tecra M5. After I left the company, I immediately purchased an M7 and that was the last Tablet I ever had with Windows.

The problem with tablets before was the pricing and the resistive touch screens that required a pen. My M7 ended up being $2700 with the slice battery (which only netted me like 5-7 hours). When it came time to sell it, I got a pitiful $600 off eBay for it. I pretty much gave up on tablets after that due to their pricing and low development effort on Windows.

Fast forward to earlier this year when Apple announced its tablet. Capacitive? Check. Price? Check. Internet on the go? Check. All my requirements satisfied at a low price of $630. I'm now a happy user who uses the iPad as an everyday tool. I even made a mount for my car so that I could use it's navigation abilities in the car along with music. It's seriously the only competitive tablet on the market right now, and it doesn't surprise me that its stealing notebook sales.

Here are some common complaints I hear from friends and strangers about the iPad:

"It's locked down by Apple". Bullshit! If it was, why is mine jailbroken with 3G Unrestrictor and MyWi to create a portable wireless network? It's the same exact reason why Android fans root their phones. We are all just doing the same thing by jailbreaking-rooting our devices.

"Its expensive, overpriced". Have you not bought a tablet in your life? What about my $2700 Toshiba Tecra M7? I guess that was a bargain! On top of that, the iPad is capacitive with 10 hours of battery life.

"Its useless, no productivity". If it doesn't work in your life, then don't get it. I personally have a custom desktop for gaming (which I hardly use) and a laptop for gaming/work. The iPad is left to deal with my 'on-the-go' entertainment purposes. Stuck in traffic bored? I can't fire up my notebook and use it comfortably. The ipad works just fine, and I'm watching youtube on my way to where-ever. Don't know where to eat in a foreign place? iPad. Need to review some urgent documents uploaded online? iPad. It made sense for me, it may not make sense for you.

I recently went to disney world for vacation a few weeks ago. Usually I'd bring my laptop, but the iPad nailed all my uses with the portability of 1.5lbs. I was on the airplane playing some random games I downloaded from appulous. When I needed internet at the resort, it was there with AT&T's lousy 3G (it works though). No $10 a day wifi for me 😉.

Seriously though, if you don't like the iPad because it doesn't fit your life then just ignore it. But there is no reason to bash on it because it doesn't work for you. Obviously it works for a million others.

 

[toastninja17]

"The company is also shifting away from focusing on big-screen TVs and high-fidelity stereos"

No no no goddammit no!!!!! That's one of the reasons I love best buy!! Idiots." You GOTTA have great sound and great picture alike. Fuck it.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]Yep pretty much... ZUne followed the iPod touch, Win Phone 7 followed the iPhone and now whatever tablet they come up with will follow the iPad.I can see some redundant patterns.... But behold all the Apple haters, they will cherish and glorify whatever comes out to compete with the iPad[/citation]
You do know that Microsoft does make OS for phones since 2000. There's a reason there's a 7 after windows phone. The iPhone was launched when? 2007?
Like Apple never copied anyone. Or did you forgot the battle between creative and apple when they infringed on one of it's patents?
There have been tablets long before Apple even thought of making the iPad.

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]Right... that is why the slate was pulled back from the market... couse they couldnt compete with the price...Now the new Android tablet is coming up and the rumor is that pricewise will almost twice the price of the base version of the iPad. But hey you can root it and install a few geeky apps that will let you ssh to another server, and it will let you multi-task with gazillion apps while your battery gets drained in a matter of minutes.[/citation]
So now rumor is fact?

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]vant[/nom]"Its expensive, overpriced". Have you not bought a tablet in your life? What about my $2700 Toshiba Tecra M7? I guess that was a bargain![/citation]
The Tecra M7 was more expensive but eventhough it's an old tablet is still a lot more powerful than the iPad. Also if you bought the M7 to do the same things you now do with the iPad, I'm sorry but you made the wrong choice. The M7 had a Quadro GPU that raised the price quite a lot. Also the price for the top of the line was US$1900.

 

[smeker]

[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]They purchased an iPad so they can tell their friends they have an iPad. The iPad will be a forgotten memory when real tablet PCs come out by Q1 2001.[/citation]
Absolutely! THats what they said about the original iPod. Just Google please I think there was a big conversation about how the iPod sucked and was way to expensive when it came out....... and then it became the most popular mp3 player in the world..

Same story for the iPad... OMG is going to die in a week and people will forget about it... and guess what a few months later, it still sells as hot cakes and millions of people are buying it on monthly bases.

Now go and troll on real I hate Apple forum. You might get a hug and a rub on your shoulder from the other lemmings there.

 

[smeker]

[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]You do know that Microsoft does make OS for phones since 2000. There's a reason there's a 7 after windows phone. The iPhone was launched when? 2007?Like Apple never copied anyone. Or did you forgot the battle between creative and apple when they infringed on one of it's patents?There have been tablets long before Apple even thought of making the iPad.[/citation]
[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]You do know that Microsoft does make OS for phones since 2000. There's a reason there's a 7 after windows phone. The iPhone was launched when? 2007?Like Apple never copied anyone. Or did you forgot the battle between creative and apple when they infringed on one of it's patents?There have been tablets long before Apple even thought of making the iPad.[/citation]

Microsoft's creativity has gone down the shiznithole long time ago.
When everyone was saying that tablets should not have a full blown OS on them, Apple haters were complaining how they wanted to have everything on their tablet... which sadly was what toshiba and other manufacturers were offering for ages but noone was buying it..

Now companies started installing Android on Tablets, and all of a sudden it's the best shit since popsicle. Same loosers that were complaining for not having a full blown OS on your tablet, now are praising the idea of having Android on it... Lol.... go figure...

About Microsoft... it took them a while to figure out that Windows mobile 6.4 was crap and they need to throw it in the garbage... Dont tell me that if Apple didnt push the iPhone on the market, you'll be using now Android phones or Win ph 7.

You should thank them for creating a competitive market so you guys can pick a side and then cry about how Apple sucks.

 

[smeker]

[citation][nom]Vladislaus[/nom]The Tecra M7 was more expensive but eventhough it's an old tablet is still a lot more powerful than the iPad. Also if you bought the M7 to do the same things you now do with the iPad, I'm sorry but you made the wrong choice. The M7 had a Quadro GPU that raised the price quite a lot. Also the price for the top of the line was US$1900.[/citation]

Yes and it's battery lasted for 3 hours tops, and from those three hours it took half and hour to boot up the freaking thing, and lets not talk about the lack of "touch" OS

 

[Dirtman73]

Smeker, your grammar is absolutely atrocious. It's pretty sad that you're representative of the typical crApple fanboy.

 

[georgecale]

[citation][nom]haunted one[/nom]Because whatever comes out to compete usually obeys the phrase "bang for your buck," unlike Apple products[/citation]
yes...there is something to be said for compartmentalizing - especially for those of us who are, in fact, prone to multitasking. like you, my phone is, well, just a phone although i welcome other forms of hybridization that seem rather more natural as transitions go (tv / monitor, for instance).

i would love to monkey around with an ipad at some point and perhaps own one down the line but i don't feel i need it and am comfortable being a late adopter to most new tech gadgetry.

the author would have done well to comment on the demographic and inferred motives a bit. save for the netbook / notebooks, virtually all of the hardware that is being supplanted by the ipad are fixtures of the home as we've known it for the last half a century (hence the tv room is the living room, and the living room was the parlor with the victrola).

regardless of one's critique of the passive nature of tv, etc (yawn), the hi fi, the tv, etc. have a physical, socially binding function maybe because they encompass a room and often become its centerpiece.

how do these other gadgets fit in the home? are the 'social' or, by virtue of their scale, even more impersonally personalized?

i've never been especially fond of carrying stuff around with me when i'm on the go and perhaps its because i enjoy home and hearth and all that exists in that environment (i.e. STUFF). going out has always meant leaving things behind. obviously those dichotomies don't hold much today and perhaps if i were 20 years younger, i'd have a much different take. i can only imagine what being a student is like nowadays - no more 50 pound sacks of photocopies and books, etc. needless to say, just because you aren't weighted down by satchels of stuff doesn't mean these lightweight portables - be they blackberries, iphones, i pads- don't weigh you down in other ways.

 

[georgecale]

[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]Microsoft's creativity has gone down the shiznithole long time ago.When everyone was saying that tablets should not have a full blown OS on them, Apple haters were complaining how they wanted to have everything on their tablet... which sadly was what toshiba and other manufacturers were offering for ages but noone was buying it..Now companies started installing Android on Tablets, and all of a sudden it's the best shit since popsicle. Same loosers that were complaining for not having a full blown OS on your tablet, now are praising the idea of having Android on it... Lol.... go figure...About Microsoft... it took them a while to figure out that Windows mobile 6.4 was crap and they need to throw it in the garbage... Dont tell me that if Apple didnt push the iPhone on the market, you'll be using now Android phones or Win ph 7.You should thank them for creating a competitive market so you guys can pick a side and then cry about how Apple sucks.[/citation]

apple deserves there success as another commenter noted. they had vision and the kind of deliberate patience to put together a beautifully orchestrated suite that will continue to surprise. that said, why not drop the the ad hominem attacks and let those of us more interested in listening in on the bigger picture trending of the market.

 

[smeker]

[citation][nom]georgecale[/nom]that said, why not drop the the ad hominem attacks and let those of us more interested in listening in on the bigger picture trending of the market.[/citation]

I gladly would.

It's the same all pissheads that come over and piss all over the thread, whenever there is an Apple article published.

 

[beayn]

[citation][nom]smeker[/nom]I gladly would. It's the same all pissheads that come over and piss all over the thread, whenever there is an Apple article published.[/citation]

While there are lots of people here to like to bash Apple, you're clearly here just to bash anything not Apple. You remind me of this other guy named watcha who would troll Apple-only articles looking for people to flame. He never posted in a non-apple related article. Defending his brand was his only goal in life.

You make all kinds of claims about tablets without actually knowing anything about them. You claimed the battery life on the Dell tablet sucked and it was so heavy you couldn't carry it, yet I still see no listing from you of what it weighs and what the battery life is. Then you claim the M7 lasted 3 hours tops, but someone who had one said it lasted 5-7 hours.

Until you know what you're actually talking about, all your "arguments" are just unfounded flames trying desperately to defend your precious brand. Everyone here sees it and ignores you as a result. (aside from the few who bother to argue with you).