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Dr. Personality (affable@no.com.invalid) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> "Desperate Housewives" was delayed into the overnight hours here in DC
> the Sunday before last by one of the two Redskins games that WJLA-TV,
> the ABC affiliate here, broadcasts every season.

Right. A one-time local pre-emption, not an ongoing network thing.
Yes, it was stupid, but that's WJLA. They toss ABC shows for religious
stuff quite often.

OTOH, Fox has managed to use the low ratings caused by football
running over as an excuse to cancel at least one show.

> The station managed
> to clip 4.5 minutes out of the end of the show as well. I leave the SP
> set for KABC because it's easier; the Los Angeles affiliate doesn't
> screw with the schedule, as it's an o&o.

It'd be just as easy to record it from the New York affiliate, which you
must be able to get as well.

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In article <jzwick3-D3441C.18284921122004@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> In article <jzwick3-DDDEFE.13274221122004@news1.west.earthlink.net>,
>> Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> >But if you're working in the analog realm your end product is the same
>> >quality as a fair video tape.
>> >
>> >DirecTiVo with Tytools gives you perfect digital copies.
>>
>> DirecTV isn't an option where I live, and from what I've heard about how
>> they're overcompressing their signal nowadays (especially for local
>> channels), those "perfect digital copies" aren't so hot anyway.
>
>You read wrong. Probably a cable TV salesperson.

It's what I've read in this newsgroup:

http/groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.video.ptv.tivo/browse_thread/thread/db9f0706c666987/e2b8f439ef5e2c1c?q=directv+overcompressed&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.video.ptv.tivo%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dalt.video.ptv.tivo%26q%3Ddirectv+overcompressed%26qt_g%3D1%26searchnow%3DSearch+this+group%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#e2b8f439ef5e2c1c

http/groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.dss/browse_thread/thread/bc72dd44c87a76c2/1c760f6aa4f83f0b?q=directv+overcompressed&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.video.ptv.tivo%2Fsearch%3Fgroup%3Dalt.video.ptv.tivo%26q%3Ddirectv+overcompressed%26qt_g%3D1%26searchnow%3DSearch+this+group%26&_doneTitle=Back+to+Search&&d#1c760f6aa4f83f0b

Neither thread involves that "wreckgar" kook of the recent "cable vs. dish"
thread. It could well be one of those "YMMV" issues (maybe they provide a
better signal on big-city locals than on BFE locals), but a mere difference
of opinion is hardly a reason to accuse anyone of ulterior motives. Not
having actually seen DirecTV for myself lately, all I can go by is what
others have said. (Back when I was selling dishes and receivers a few years
ago, it was the new hotness. That was long before they were forced to add
the several hundred (?) local stations that they now carry.)

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(IIGS( http/alfter.us/ Top-posting!
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:51:13 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:12:39 -0800, Ablang
> <HilaryEverAfter@ablang-duff.com> wrote:
>> Why Tivo When you can Freevo?
>> http/www.byopvr.com/
>
> Uh, because a tivo is a hundred bucks and I don't have to dick around
> with it? What do I win?

Assuming you keep your Tivo 5 years, you win the not only the right, but
you must also pay Tivo an additional $777 in sibscription fees. Now if you
pay the product lifetime sub rate, that's only $300 extra and your total
cost for the Tivo is only $400 vs. $877.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:11:16 -0500, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> > the show is SCHEDULED an hour
> >>late due to some "Reality Tv" special.... The Replay knows to record, an
> >>hour late)
> >
> > It's about time Replay got around to copying TiVo on that. The way Replay
> > used to work on this was sad.
>
> ????? Replay has always done that.

So there haven't been changes yet in how Replay handles these things? Too
bad.

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can't see." - hawthorn@sover.net http/www.sover.net/~hawthorn/

 

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On 21 Dec 2004 22:18:11 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>>4 days until the winter solstice celebration
>>
>
>Why aren't you celebrating TODAY?

> Is your druid calendar running a little slow?

I'm not supporting ANY mythical beings. In general, the above looks
like BS.

>You are celebrating Christmas and you don't even understand the difference.

What I do understand is that I don't support mythical beings. I'm not
going to use a name that acknowledges such nonsense.

--
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has a Replay 5xxx
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paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh

 

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Scott Alfter wrote:

> DirecTV isn't an option where I live, and from what I've heard about how
> they're overcompressing their signal nowadays (especially for local
> channels), those "perfect digital copies" aren't so hot anyway. Having
> timeshifted plenty of stuff on videotape in the past, I can say with a
> considerable amount of firsthand experience that recording from digital
> cable with a standalone TiVo (or MythTV or whatever) is considerably better
> than VHS-quality. Just make sure you use S-video from the box to the PVR,
> not composite or (ick) RF.
>

Just kind of wondering where you live.... Direct TV is an option most
anywhere

 

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In article <MPG.1c32e3a4552a347e9899ff@news.nabs.net>, Jeff Rife
<wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

> Dr. Personality (affable@no.com.invalid) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> > "Desperate Housewives" was delayed into the overnight hours here in DC
> > the Sunday before last by one of the two Redskins games that WJLA-TV,
> > the ABC affiliate here, broadcasts every season.
>
> Right. A one-time local pre-emption, not an ongoing network thing.
> Yes, it was stupid, but that's WJLA. They toss ABC shows for religious
> stuff quite often.

I never said it was "an ongoing network thing." I said the show had
been moved for football.

> > The station managed to clip 4.5 minutes out of the end of the show
> > as well. I leave the SP set for KABC because it's easier; the Los
> > Angeles affiliate doesn't screw with the schedule, as it's an o&o.
>
> It'd be just as easy to record it from the New York affiliate, which you
> must be able to get as well.

So what? For whatever reason, I choose to get the show from L.A. I
leave the SP set for L.A. because it's easier than switching it back
and forth between L.A. and DC when DC decides to move the show, which
has happened not once, but twice, for football. (I think they've also
bumped it for Billy Graham, which would make three times.) I tend not
to notice these pre-emptions because I don't have to worry about them.
I didn't even hear about the Redskins pre-emption for two days, and
that was only because the TV columnist in the Washington Post
complained about it.

 

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Not really . . it's only an option in North America, if I remember correctly.

-Dave

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:45:04 GMT
John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Scott Alfter wrote:
>
> > DirecTV isn't an option where I live, and from what I've heard about how
> > they're overcompressing their signal nowadays (especially for local
> > channels), those "perfect digital copies" aren't so hot anyway. Having
> > timeshifted plenty of stuff on videotape in the past, I can say with a
> > considerable amount of firsthand experience that recording from digital
> > cable with a standalone TiVo (or MythTV or whatever) is considerably better
> > than VHS-quality. Just make sure you use S-video from the box to the PVR,
> > not composite or (ick) RF.
> >
>
> Just kind of wondering where you live.... Direct TV is an option most
> anywhere

 

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 17:49:15 GMT, David Frascone <dave@frascone.com>
wrote:

>
>Not really . . it's only an option in North America, if I remember correctly.
>

It's available anywhere else in the world too. You just need one of
those special dishes that work through the planet and and a receiver
that intercepts the static warp field of the satellites.

>-Dave
>
>On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:45:04 GMT
>John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Scott Alfter wrote:
>>
>> > DirecTV isn't an option where I live, and from what I've heard about how
>> > they're overcompressing their signal nowadays (especially for local
>> > channels), those "perfect digital copies" aren't so hot anyway. Having
>> > timeshifted plenty of stuff on videotape in the past, I can say with a
>> > considerable amount of firsthand experience that recording from digital
>> > cable with a standalone TiVo (or MythTV or whatever) is considerably better
>> > than VHS-quality. Just make sure you use S-video from the box to the PVR,
>> > not composite or (ick) RF.
>> >
>>
>> Just kind of wondering where you live.... Direct TV is an option most
>> anywhere

 

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Dr. Personality (affable@no.com.invalid) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> So what? For whatever reason, I choose to get the show from L.A. I
> leave the SP set for L.A. because it's easier than switching it back
> and forth between L.A. and DC when DC decides to move the show, which
> has happened not once, but twice, for football.

But, if you record it off the New York distant network feed, you'd have
the same advantage. You'd also be better off just saving the $3/month for
DC locals.

There's really no reason *not* to have an SP for the same show on *both*
distant network feeds, since TiVo will only record it once anyway.

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Frank J. Perricone wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:11:16 -0500, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>> > the show is SCHEDULED an hour
>>
>>>>late due to some "Reality Tv" special.... The Replay knows to record, an
>>>>hour late)
>>>
>>>It's about time Replay got around to copying TiVo on that. The way Replay
>>>used to work on this was sad.
>>
>>????? Replay has always done that.
>
>
> So there haven't been changes yet in how Replay handles these things? Too
> bad.
>
No dopey. I said Replay always looked 1 time period ahead and 1 behind
for shifted programming, there was nothing to "copy".

 

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In article <MPG.1c33cd59fd15026f989a08@news.nabs.net>, Jeff Rife
<wevsr@nabs.net> wrote:

> Dr. Personality (affable@no.com.invalid) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> > So what? For whatever reason, I choose to get the show from L.A. I
> > leave the SP set for L.A. because it's easier than switching it back
> > and forth between L.A. and DC when DC decides to move the show, which
> > has happened not once, but twice, for football.
>
> But, if you record it off the New York distant network feed, you'd have
> the same advantage. You'd also be better off just saving the $3/month for
> DC locals.

I like having the DC local news, even though we live more than fifty
miles away and they don't really cover us. The weather forecast is
sometimes helpful.

If you're arguing that trading DC for NY confers some advantage, I
can't argue. I don't need to save $3/mo, though, and I like having as
much TV available to me as I can get and pay for.

> There's really no reason *not* to have an SP for the same show on *both*
> distant network feeds, since TiVo will only record it once anyway.

The only reason I would set up "Desperate Housewives" in the east is if
we were going to watch it that same night, and we don't. We usually
watch a movie on Sunday nights and leave the show for Mondays.

 

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w.newell@verizon.net shaped the electrons to say:
>Assuming you keep your Tivo 5 years, you win the not only the right, but
>you must also pay Tivo an additional $777 in sibscription fees. Now if you

Well, you could buy a unit with TiVo Basic, and I've seen the SD-H400
going for around $200 online. You can use it with TiVo Basic with no
sub, it is an 80 hour unit, and a decent DVD player. ;-)

>pay the product lifetime sub rate, that's only $300 extra and your total
>cost for the Tivo is only $400 vs. $877.

Lifetime is the only way to go, IMHO.

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>>You are celebrating Christmas and you don't even understand the difference.
>
>What I do understand is that I don't support mythical beings. I'm not
>going to use a name that acknowledges such nonsense.

If you are not supporting mythical beings why did you move your solstice
celebration to the mythical birthday. The solstice is an astronomical event,
the date of which was predicted with great accuracy a couple thousand years
before the mythical guy came along. If you are really celebrating the solstice
it only takes a crude calendar like Stonehenge (hence the Druid reference) or
the alignment of some of the pyramids to get the day right.

 

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On 23 Dec 2004 05:38:25 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>>>You are celebrating Christmas and you don't even understand the difference.
>>
>>What I do understand is that I don't support mythical beings. I'm not
>>going to use a name that acknowledges such nonsense.
>
>If you are not supporting mythical beings why did you move your solstice
>celebration to the mythical birthday. The solstice is an astronomical event,
>the date of which was predicted with great accuracy a couple thousand years
>before the mythical guy came along.

It looks like people were here more than 100 thousand years ago. They
were probably celebrating then.

> If you are really celebrating the solstice
>it only takes a crude calendar like Stonehenge (hence the Druid reference)

Sorry, I guess I thought that was referring to an older myth system
(people do that too much).

> or
>the alignment of some of the pyramids to get the day right.

Did you notice that I did not say "solstice". I said "solstice
celebration". Words have meanings.

I don't care that much about the astronomical event, but do need
something to CALL the celebration when mentioning it. I "moved" it
because most people in the area do, and I do care about PEOPLE
(there's a lot of good things people have mixed up with those
delusions).

--
2 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http/go.to/notstupid
http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh

 

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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 20:17:10 -0500, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Frank J. Perricone wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 20:11:16 -0500, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> > the show is SCHEDULED an hour
>>>
>>>>>late due to some "Reality Tv" special.... The Replay knows to record, an
>>>>>hour late)
>>>>
>>>>It's about time Replay got around to copying TiVo on that. The way Replay
>>>>used to work on this was sad.
>>>
>>>????? Replay has always done that.
>>
>>
>> So there haven't been changes yet in how Replay handles these things? Too
>> bad.
>>
>No dopey. I said Replay always looked 1 time period ahead and 1 behind
>for shifted programming, there was nothing to "copy".

Of course, theme channels record a show no matter when (or on what
channel) a show comes on. Even better for altered schedules.

--
2 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http/go.to/notstupid
http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh

 

[Greg]

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We are compiling convenience on convenience here. The solstice celebration is
on the shortest day, high point of Polaris or whatever you use to mark the day
that the axis of the Earth most closely aligns to the sun at solar noon.
The Christians usurped this celebration to mark the birth of their guy (who was
probably born in the summer if you believe the other legends, sheep in the
field and such). They arbitrarily picked Dec 25. Now you have moved your
holiday to coincide with theirs.
Who is leading who here?

 

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On 23 Dec 2004 17:05:44 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>We are compiling convenience on convenience here. The solstice celebration is
>on the shortest day, high point of Polaris or whatever you use to mark the day
>that the axis of the Earth most closely aligns to the sun at solar noon.

Do you think they measured it that accurately 100,000 years ago? Maybe
they just noticed that the changes (related to less sunlight) were
reversing.

>The Christians usurped this celebration to mark the birth of their guy (who was
>probably born in the summer if you believe the other legends,

Notice that those legends are contradictory, both internally (with
each other) and externally (with what's known about reality).

> sheep in the
>field and such). They arbitrarily picked Dec 25.

I don't think that was arbitrary, but part of the "assimilation" (yes,
it's a reference to the borg) Christians were doing. They did the same
thing for "Easter".

>Now you have moved your
>holiday

Notice that "holiday" is a shortening of "holy day", "holy" being
another BS word.

> to coincide with theirs.
>Who is leading who here?

I just recognize tha there are a lot of important things going on
(love, for example), which people associate with these myths. I don't
want to avoid THAT.

--
2 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http/go.to/notstupid
http/notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"It is a curious thing that every creed promises a
paradise which will be absolutely uninhabitable for
anyone of civilized taste." -- Evelyn Waugh

 

[Greg]

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I don't think we were talking about 100,000 years ago but the guys in Egypt had
a real good idea about astronomy 4000 years ago. They were predicting eclipses
and star movements even though they didn't have a clue to the mechanics. If you
take a computer and backdate star charts you get very convincing alignments
with the pyramids at Giza. Granted they used myth to fill in the blanks too and
that was probably the first recorded attempt to define "intelligent design".
That is why guys like Copernicus and Galileo had such a hard time with the
another generation of mythsters. People don't like their myth busted.
If you really want to distance yourself from the myth, you should honor the
science and go marvel at Polaris at it's highest point in the sky.
We were out in the boat, getting a rare glance at the North Star.

 

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"Dr. Personality" <affable@no.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:211220040242339569%affable@no.com.invalid...
> In article <945fs01dbkg4ahvc7c36gbhe4l4tgq65o7@4ax.com>, Ablang
> <HilaryEverAfter@ablang-duff.com> wrote:
>
>> Why Tivo When you can Freevo?
>
>
> For the same reason I drive a car into town instead of ride a horse.

Would that be because when people see you next to the back end of a horse
they get confused as to which is which and you prefer to drive a car so that
there's no doubt which one of the two is the horses ass?