Bungie Lightly Spanks Cheaters in Halo: Reach

[Decap1tator]

Everyone is on the same playing field on Reach. The only thing the unlocks do is make your character more aethetically pleasing, and show you are a higher rank than someone else. Everyone can tell who did the exploit by looking at their campaign commendations.

 

[restatement3dofted]

[citation][nom]supertrek32[/nom]...Except all new players ARE on even ground in terms of gameplay. The changes are only aesthetic.The entire (and only) point of credits in halo reach is to show how much time you've invested playing the game. If you can spend 15 minutes doing one glitch - that doesn't even really involve actual playing - to earn just as many credits as someone who plays for 10 hours, that's wrong.[/citation]

In Halo, yes - but he was making a point about games generally. While everyone in Halo might be on equal footing, that's hardly true in a game like Modern Warfare, where weapons, weapon upgrades, and perks are all unlocked based on rank. Systems like that reward people who have endless amounts of time to play, which doesn't sit well with a lot of people.

 

[f-14]

bungie should have punished them by giving all the cheaters permanent pink armor and a blinkerfluid icon on the chest plate AFTER they fixed the game. don't ban cheaters, just take away their cheats and mark them, the rest of us will take care of the cheaters once they are marked }😉

 

[gogogadgetliver]

[citation][nom]f-14[/nom]bungie should have punished them by giving all the cheaters permanent pink armor and a blinkerfluid icon on the chest plate AFTER they fixed the game. don't ban cheaters, just take away their cheats and mark them, the rest of us will take care of the cheaters once they are marked }[/citation]

There is some genius in this that could be applied to any game. Stick a scarlet letter of some sort on people who get kicked from games for griefing/cheating.

 

[gerbele]

[citation][nom]gogogadgetliver[/nom]There is some genius in this that could be applied to any game. Stick a scarlet letter of some sort on people who get kicked from games for griefing/cheating.[/citation]

I love this idea as well. Or maybe increase the size of their hit box.

 

[kinggraves]

[citation][nom]restatement3dofted[/nom]In Halo, yes - but he was making a point about games generally. While everyone in Halo might be on equal footing, that's hardly true in a game like Modern Warfare, where weapons, weapon upgrades, and perks are all unlocked based on rank. Systems like that reward people who have endless amounts of time to play, which doesn't sit well with a lot of people.[/citation]

People who have a problem with spending time trying to accomplish things in games can go ahead and stop gaming. It's people like that that caused devs to think most games these days need to be easy enough for toddlers to beat it. No-lifers are sad individuals in the real world, but they did work to achieve what they had in their virtual world, and no one deserves to have a hand up to the same level. If you get beat by them, shrug it off and find another match with someone else who did bother with living.

 

[spymanuk]

i hate cheaters they are the lowest of the low in the gaming world. I am pc user and think its more prevalent in that format as its easyier. But I agree with with the console fanboys it's pathetic. A sure indicator of little skill and they know it.

Some do it just to annoy non-cheaters and they should get banned for a week every time they do it or have their health & armour points reduced by 75% for a week. Too much?

Go Xbox.

 

[thebigt42]

[citation][nom]kaosnkorruption[/nom]Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.[/citation]
I did not saw you should...Programers should only release solid tested software...Not this crap that is full of holes

 

[chriskrum]

[citation][nom]kinggraves[/nom]People who have a problem with spending time trying to accomplish things in games can go ahead and stop gaming. It's people like that that caused devs to think most games these days need to be easy enough for toddlers to beat it. No-lifers are sad individuals in the real world, but they did work to achieve what they had in their virtual world, and no one deserves to have a hand up to the same level. If you get beat by them, shrug it off and find another match with someone else who did bother with living.[/citation]

It's like you intentionally missed the point. No one supports cheaters or hackers but a number of gamers, myself included, detest grind. Unlocks frequently (perhaps not in this case) support and encourage what we consider to not be very good gameplay: grinding to get a super weapon the bestows an advantage perk that not everyone has access to (mortars, air strikes, super sniper rifles etc.). I don't care about losing to players more skilled than me; if I did I'd never play because there are a lot of players much better than me. I don't think the exploit bungie is addressing here is important because it's not a hack the effects gameplay (it's not like they're glitching into an area of the map where they can't be killed or something similar). They're just avoiding the grind necessary to kit themselves out they way they want in a game they paid for. The worst they're doing is making a mockery of the entire e-penis system.

But then I'm an older gamer. I consider things like xbox live or steam achievements to be a step backwards. I play for enjoyment of the game. Not to collect digital swag and call everyone I kill a noob.

 

[LORD_ORION]

Exploits are not cheats. Big difference.

The fault is with Bungie, not the exploiters. You all have low gaming IQ, enough said.

 

[utengineer]

[citation][nom]chriskrum[/nom]Not everyone can spend two hundred hours playing just to work their way to being evenly equipped with the jobless, emotionally stunted, relationship free, super-gamers.[/citation]
That is the problem buddy....most of the kids are like this and I suspect many of those that post here.

Still, to make the gaqme interesting and to drive you to come back for more, there has to be challenges and thus things to unlock or achieve.

I say find the cheaters and beat their arse with a wet noodle and pull their pants down in front of their friends, OR ignore them and just be happy.

 

[utengineer]

Oh and another thing...it is just a game. It will be dead in less than a year and a diffferent game will be the hot topic. Go play chess or something....pick a sport.

Pacman never had cheats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FloKid]

Oh yeah? What's the score?

 

[Darkv1]

[citation][nom]thebigt42[/nom]I did not saw you should...Programers should only release solid tested software...Not this crap that is full of holes[/citation]
Most software, especially something as complex as a game, is bound to have some issues. Not everything can be caught during testing. If you don't believe me I'm sure that anyone here who has written software will agree.

 

[CptTripps]

[citation][nom]chriskrum[/nom]It's like you intentionally missed the point. No one supports cheaters or hackers but a number of gamers, myself included, detest grind. Unlocks frequently (perhaps not in this case) support and encourage what we consider to not be very good gameplay: grinding to get a super weapon the bestows an advantage perk that not everyone has access to (mortars, air strikes, super sniper rifles etc.). I don't care about losing to players more skilled than me; if I did I'd never play because there are a lot of players much better than me. I don't think the exploit bungie is addressing here is important because it's not a hack the effects gameplay (it's not like they're glitching into an area of the map where they can't be killed or something similar). They're just avoiding the grind necessary to kit themselves out they way they want in a game they paid for. The worst they're doing is making a mockery of the entire e-penis system.But then I'm an older gamer. I consider things like xbox live or steam achievements to be a step backwards. I play for enjoyment of the game. Not to collect digital swag and call everyone I kill a noob.[/citation]

You have some good points, those points are the reason I quit playing COD. I loved COD2, had a good time with COD4 and felt like MW2 was released just to promote camping/sniping (the two things I hate to do) so you can call in choppers, airstrikes and nukes. There is no reason whatsoever that a person should be able to end the game because of a killstreak.

Currently I am a BFBC2 junkie. You do earn cool stuff that can "help" but imo you earn most of it quickly and it is not required to get kills/have fun. Me and my friends are far from pro gamers and managed to unlock most the cool stuff in a couple weeks of gameplay. I guess I'm saying that when done right, and it does not provide a HUGE advantage I am all for working towards that next cool gadget.

On achievments, I don't mind the digital swag and actually enjoy comparing stats vs. the people on my friends list. I don't go out of my way to unlock everything in a game but do enjoy reading some of the requirements to earn them and saying "huh, i did that?".

On topic: I don't think anyone cares what they were doing this for, just the fact that they were doing it. It does not matter what the exploit does, just the fact that they are exploiting it.

I am old school as well and sometimes I miss the days of bards tale on my Apple IIe, but then I jump in an attack chopper and blast the crap out of some noobs, parachute down and teabag them suckers as they bleed out 😉

 

[putgow]

Oh, but people will not complain about this "BEKAZ HALO RULZ!!1!".

I even know someone that bought a $23 Halo Reach strategy guide...really?

 

[JD13]

Do away with all ranking systems & most of the cheating will disappear all together..

 

[BulkZerker]

But but hats! I must have a soup pot as my helmet!

 

[phraun]

Cheaters that take advantage of game bugs to improve their performance in meaningful ways are despicable creatures. Cheaters that use a bug to "look pretty" I couldn't care less about. It's nice to see that the punishments are being kept relative to the severity of the crime, though; those guys certainly don't deserve week-long bans or anything of that sort.

 

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