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"H.C." <Invalid@replyviausenet.net> wrote in message
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> Well, it used to work. I'm not talking about inside my apartment, but,
the
> parking lot, and within a square mile of this area. I spoke to Customer
> care about the situation and I was told that my area is rated low to
medium
> for GSM coverage. So I'm saying they are not providing the service that I
> am paying for. That's all.

If it used to work at your apartment and now it doesn't, then they will
likely let you out if you return the phone if you get the right customer
service rep. But, assuming you were on GSM when it worked, and are still on
GSM now and they haven't reduced the power on your closest tower, they
aren't required by law to let you out of your contract. Perhaps you should
have them replace the handset if your signal has decreased and they haven't
had to reduce the power on the tower for some reason. Whatever service you
change to, it would be a good idea to make sure it works where you need it
to during the "trial period" to make sure you don't get yourself into this
mess again.
 
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In article <mI-dnSCNTrkXrxLdRVn-sw@comcast.com>,
"H.C." <Invalid@replyviausenet.net> wrote:

> Well, it used to work. I'm not talking about inside my apartment, but, the
> parking lot, and within a square mile of this area. I spoke to Customer
> care about the situation and I was told that my area is rated low to medium
> for GSM coverage. So I'm saying they are not providing the service that I
> am paying for. That's all.

Don't ask to be let out of your contract, demand it.

Write to your State's Attorney General with Certfied copy to company HQ.
 
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In article <3%Mjc.87854$UC4.20460@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

>
> "H.C." <Invalid@replyviausenet.net> wrote in message
> news:mI-dnSCNTrkXrxLdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
> > Well, it used to work. I'm not talking about inside my apartment, but,
> the
> > parking lot, and within a square mile of this area. I spoke to Customer
> > care about the situation and I was told that my area is rated low to
> medium
> > for GSM coverage. So I'm saying they are not providing the service that I
> > am paying for. That's all.
>
> If it used to work at your apartment and now it doesn't, then they will
> likely let you out if you return the phone if you get the right customer
> service rep. But, assuming you were on GSM when it worked, and are still on
> GSM now and they haven't reduced the power on your closest tower, they
> aren't required by law to let you out of your contract. Perhaps you should
> have them replace the handset if your signal has decreased and they haven't
> had to reduce the power on the tower for some reason.

Don't go there. They sell you another handset, and hit you with another
activation fee, and the results 95% of the time are the same.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> Don't go there. They sell you another handset, and hit you with another
> activation fee, and the results 95% of the time are the same.

100% false. If his handset is defective, they will replace under warranty.
And there is no activation fee. OP just removes the SIM from his old phone
and places it in new the new phone. He is GSM, not TDMA or CDMA. You can
swap the SIM an unlimited amount of times between an unlimited number of
850/1900 MHz phones on GSM and never encounter any kind of activation fee,
as there is nothing that needs to be done on Cingular's side. No activation
required. If nothing has changed with towers in OP's area, and he had a
siganl and now doesn't, the only explanation is a defective handset.
 
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"H.C." <Invalid@replyviausenet.net> wrote in message news:<mI-dnSCNTrkXrxLdRVn-sw@comcast.com>...
> Well, it used to work. I'm not talking about inside my apartment, but, the
> parking lot, and within a square mile of this area. I spoke to Customer
> care about the situation and I was told that my area is rated low to medium
> for GSM coverage. So I'm saying they are not providing the service that I
> am paying for. That's all.

Well, if it used to work, that's a little different. Cingular
"realigned" a tower near my rural town in Kansas City a few years back
and knocked out service in my neighborhood. I talked them into three
months of free service (one month at a time) until they restored
signal where I lived. I'd been a customer at that location for years
with good signal, and (coincidentally) had just dumped home phone
service to go 100% wireless right before Cingular went dead at my
home!
 
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In article <1mVjc.96322$Lh2.55801@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:rmarkoff-979749.07471528042004@news05.east.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Don't go there. They sell you another handset, and hit you with another
> > activation fee, and the results 95% of the time are the same.
>
> 100% false. If his handset is defective, they will replace under warranty.
> And there is no activation fee. OP just removes the SIM from his old phone
> and places it in new the new phone. He is GSM, not TDMA or CDMA. You can
> swap the SIM an unlimited amount of times between an unlimited number of
> 850/1900 MHz phones on GSM and never encounter any kind of activation fee,
> as there is nothing that needs to be done on Cingular's side. No activation
> required. If nothing has changed with towers in OP's area, and he had a
> siganl and now doesn't, the only explanation is a defective handset.

Where did it suddenly occur his handset was defective? Thats an excuse
for AT&T you're inventing.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> Where did it suddenly occur his handset was defective? Thats an excuse
> for AT&T you're inventing.

What does AT&T have to do with this? What excuse? It is quite simple. If the
tower is still functional and putting out the same power, it is either the
handset, or something that has been erected causing interference between the
tower and himself. the only one he can control is the handset. I am
attempting to help him regain his signal. You, on the other hand are doing
nothing but spreading lies. Apparently from reading other responses, you are
a known troll though, so I guess I should expect it. At any rate, best of
luck to the OP with resolving your problem.
 
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In article <L_Wjc.96369$Lh2.60706@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

It is quite simple. If the
> tower is still functional and putting out the same power, it is either the
> handset, or something that has been erected causing interference between the
> tower and himself.

Duh, maybe the Tower is over used, and its functional distance is less
now.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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> In article <L_Wjc.96369$Lh2.60706@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> "Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:
>
> It is quite simple. If the
>> tower is still functional and putting out the same power, it is either
>> the
>> handset, or something that has been erected causing interference between
>> the
>> tower and himself.
>
> Duh, maybe the Tower is over used, and its functional distance is less
> now.

Duh, overused in GSM terms doesn't relate to lower power. It relates to
dropped calls and inability to complete calls, but the signal is still there
on the handset.
 
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In article <od6kc.55924$Uz1.44654@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

>
> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:rmarkoff-40E56C.22084228042004@news02.east.earthlink.net...
> > In article <L_Wjc.96369$Lh2.60706@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> > "Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:
> >
> > It is quite simple. If the
> >> tower is still functional and putting out the same power, it is either
> >> the
> >> handset, or something that has been erected causing interference between
> >> the
> >> tower and himself.
> >
> > Duh, maybe the Tower is over used, and its functional distance is less
> > now.
>
> Duh, overused in GSM terms doesn't relate to lower power. It relates to
> dropped calls and inability to complete calls, but the signal is still there
> on the handset.

Not at the feather edge.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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> In article <od6kc.55924$Uz1.44654@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
> "Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:rmarkoff-40E56C.22084228042004@news02.east.earthlink.net...
>> > In article <L_Wjc.96369$Lh2.60706@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
>> > "Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:
>> >
>> > It is quite simple. If the
>> >> tower is still functional and putting out the same power, it is either
>> >> the
>> >> handset, or something that has been erected causing interference
>> >> between
>> >> the
>> >> tower and himself.
>> >
>> > Duh, maybe the Tower is over used, and its functional distance is less
>> > now.
>>
>> Duh, overused in GSM terms doesn't relate to lower power. It relates to
>> dropped calls and inability to complete calls, but the signal is still
>> there
>> on the handset.
>
> Not at the feather edge.

ROFL. Do your homework first.
 

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Todd Allcock wrote:

> "H.C." <Invalid@replyviausenet.net> wrote in message news:<mI-dnSCNTrkXrxLdRVn-sw@comcast.com>...
>
>>Well, it used to work. I'm not talking about inside my apartment, but, the
>>parking lot, and within a square mile of this area. I spoke to Customer
>>care about the situation and I was told that my area is rated low to medium
>>for GSM coverage. So I'm saying they are not providing the service that I
>>am paying for. That's all.
>
>
> Well, if it used to work, that's a little different. Cingular
> "realigned" a tower near my rural town in Kansas City a few years back
> and knocked out service in my neighborhood. I talked them into three
> months of free service (one month at a time) until they restored
> signal where I lived. I'd been a customer at that location for years
> with good signal, and (coincidentally) had just dumped home phone
> service to go 100% wireless right before Cingular went dead at my
> home!


It's a good thing you didn't have to dial 911 during that time.

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In article <dI7kc.92761$UC4.73308@bignews2.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

>
> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:rmarkoff-34DB0C.07460529042004@news04.east.earthlink.net...
> > In article <od6kc.55924$Uz1.44654@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
> > "Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:rmarkoff-40E56C.22084228042004@news02.east.earthlink.net...
> >> > In article <L_Wjc.96369$Lh2.60706@bignews1.bellsouth.net>,
> >> > "Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > It is quite simple. If the
> >> >> tower is still functional and putting out the same power, it is either
> >> >> the
> >> >> handset, or something that has been erected causing interference
> >> >> between
> >> >> the
> >> >> tower and himself.
> >> >
> >> > Duh, maybe the Tower is over used, and its functional distance is less
> >> > now.
> >>
> >> Duh, overused in GSM terms doesn't relate to lower power. It relates to
> >> dropped calls and inability to complete calls, but the signal is still
> >> there
> >> on the handset.
> >
> > Not at the feather edge.
>
> ROFL. Do your homework first.

I know The Network is perfect. Nothing can go wrang.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> I know The Network is perfect. Nothing can go wrang.

Don't know that he said it was perfect. If a tower gets over capacity, it
drops calls and doesn't allow calls to complete. Doesn't sound perfect to
me.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> I know The Network is perfect. Nothing can go wrang.

You are full of misconceptions. Problems happen frequently with electronic
devices.
 
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In article <Horkc.26207$7a5.24881@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

>
> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:rmarkoff-3838F5.18524129042004@news04.east.earthlink.net...
> >
> > I know The Network is perfect. Nothing can go wrang.
>
> You are full of misconceptions. Problems happen frequently with electronic
> devices.

Nope. Electrons do not have free will.

Problems occur due to over use, and misconfiguration, and if one is left
without a signal, they will be let out of their contract if they know
how to complain.
 
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"Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
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>
> Nope. Electrons do not have free will.
>
> Problems occur due to over use, and misconfiguration, and if one is left
> without a signal, they will be let out of their contract if they know
> how to complain.

Glad you finally agree with me that the only way he could be let out of
contract is if something changed on Cingular's side, but you are incorrect,
as expected about "electronics". Electronics fail primarily beacuse of
capacitors, diodes, resistors, transistors, etc. failing. Of course
misconfiguration could cause failure also, but that typically results in
instant failure of an electronic device. Again, learn before you spout
falsehoods.
 
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Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message news:<c6s684$cr1@library2.airnews.net>...
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> > "H.C." <Invalid@replyviausenet.net> wrote in message news:<mI-dnSCNTrkXrxLdRVn-sw@comcast.com>...
> >
> >>Well, it used to work. I'm not talking about inside my apartment, but, the
> >>parking lot, and within a square mile of this area. I spoke to Customer
> >>care about the situation and I was told that my area is rated low to medium
> >>for GSM coverage. So I'm saying they are not providing the service that I
> >>am paying for. That's all.
> >
> >
> > Well, if it used to work, that's a little different. Cingular
> > "realigned" a tower near my rural town in Kansas City a few years back
> > and knocked out service in my neighborhood. I talked them into three
> > months of free service (one month at a time) until they restored
> > signal where I lived. I'd been a customer at that location for years
> > with good signal, and (coincidentally) had just dumped home phone
> > service to go 100% wireless right before Cingular went dead at my
> > home!
>
>
> It's a good thing you didn't have to dial 911 during that time.

911 probably would've worked on the cellphone anyway. Even with
Cingular's IRDB blocking the phone from roaming in regular
circumstances, my Nokia would've latched onto any service available to
complete a 911 call. Verizon's signal reached my house (although
weaker than Cingular's usually was, it was certainly ample enough.)
If that didn't work, I could always have used my neighbor's phone.

I've been fortunate enough to have never needed to call 911 in my
life, and, as amazing as this sounds, well over 99.9999999% of man's
existence was spent without telephones. The two months I lived with
very sporadic phone service were very peaceful ones! ;-)
 
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well what about GSM repeaters like this one

http://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/contractors/base/bonn/bonn3.html
Chip

John S. wrote:
>>Nah, no wireless carrier changes anything - they have standards to
>>adhere to. All cell sites are permanently anchored and are incapable of
>>moving around. All antennas are also permanently anchored in place -
>>they never move either.
>
>
> Actually they do have cell sites that "move around" as you put it. They are
> called COW's (Cells on wheels). They are used for special events, to get
> service to an area that is in need while a new site is built and for emergency
> site replacement if a site is damaged by something like lightning or tornado or
> hurricane.
>
> But in general your statement is true.
>
> --
> John S.
> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
 
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In article <j9Bkc.29998$7a5.8293@bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
"Jason Cothran" <reply@board.nomail> wrote:

>
> "Robert M." <rmarkoff@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:rmarkoff-DA1D22.07313330042004@news06.east.earthlink.net...
> >
> > Nope. Electrons do not have free will.
> >
> > Problems occur due to over use, and misconfiguration, and if one is left
> > without a signal, they will be let out of their contract if they know
> > how to complain.
>
> Glad you finally agree with me that the only way he could be let out of
> contract is if something changed on Cingular's side, but you are incorrect,
> as expected about "electronics". Electronics fail primarily beacuse of
> capacitors, diodes, resistors, transistors, etc. failing. Of course
> misconfiguration could cause failure also, but that typically results in
> instant failure of an electronic device. Again, learn before you spout
> falsehoods.

Nothing false about getting out of a "contract" if you have no coverage,
regardless of excuse the Carrier might make.