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Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota spot
ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a shitload of
compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues with
sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten into
submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of likes
never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better than
95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky about
this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded 2
second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the title
of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these artists
before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming up
after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????
 
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cbobbydazzle wrote ...
> Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
> spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
> movies.
....
>...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
> need to be told this.

Maybe you've aged (matured?) and moved out of their prime
demographic? :)
 
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We've got the exact same ads happening in Halifax except at the end it
says "no radio station understands Led Zeppelin like Halifax's own
Q104." I kind of like the ads actually. They give you a little
history/insight into the bands.

cbobbydazzle@yahoo.com wrote:
> Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
> spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
> movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
> describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota spot
> ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a shitload of
> compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues with
> sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten into
> submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of likes
> never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
> concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better than
> 95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
> need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
> excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky about
> this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded 2
> second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
> alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the title
> of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these artists
> before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming up
> after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????
>
 

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You've only just started listening to commercial radio in the last few
months haven't you...

This sort of thing started recently, like around 1965...




On 3/18/05 3:53 AM, in article
1111135980.353311.76670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com,
"cbobbydazzle@yahoo.com" <cbobbydazzle@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Iv'e noticed in recent months that classic rock station identification
> spots have become like action movie trailers for Jerry Bruckheimer
> movies.Some spots have agressive voice overs to the effect of
> describing Led Zeppelin as the second coming....after the toyota spot
> ends.....a voice over guy with a deep bass and a shitload of
> compression says.."there was a vision by one man to fuse the blues with
> sound of metal(insert black dog riff).....fused with drums beaten into
> submission(insert when the levee breaks intro)....and a voice of likes
> never heard before(screams of robert plant)..and the the voive over
> concludes...".no one radio station understands Led Zeppelin better than
> 95.5 KLOS"...Is this cheese really neccesary?Im totally stunned that I
> need to be told this.The dj's are also recently seem a bit overly
> excited about what coming up like they got a memo saying be perky about
> this as if it was never played before.... or even have pre recorded 2
> second samples of such songs as "more than a feeling""sweet home
> alabama"who are you" after a pre recorded voice over anounces the title
> of the artist....like you've never heard these songs by these artists
> before and you need to be reminded what you will be hearing coming up
> after the commercial break.Has anyone been bombarded by this ????
>
 
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In article <BE605723.3549%ssconmag1@verizon.net> ssconmag1@verizon.net writes:

> You've only just started listening to commercial radio in the last few
> months haven't you...
>
> This sort of thing started recently, like around 1965...

I've just started listening to comercial radio - WGMS - since WETA cut
out music. GAWD I HATE THE ADS! It's alost like public radio fund
raising but with more annoying voices and music bumpers. You'd think
that being a classical music station they'd produce (or request) commercials
that don't have hard rock music behind them, but nooooo, and the voices!
There's one that I think is for a phone company that sounds like the classic
drag racing SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY.

They play whole classical pieces, and occasionally have a comerical-free
hour, but when they do commercials, the blocks are 8-9 minutes. And for
things like funeral parlors.

At least at home, I can listen to something respectable over the
Internet. Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
with me when I go out.



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On 18 Mar 2005 13:19:24 -0500, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers)
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>Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
>citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
>with me when I go out.

You sound like the perfect customer for sattelite radio...

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In article <flfm31tbfvqg8tl5e7ntrugplc9o8vekqb@4ax.com> playonAT@comcast.net writes:

> You sound like the perfect customer for sattelite radio...

I had a rental car last year that had one. 128 channels and I didn't
even like the bluegrass one.

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On 18 Mar 2005 21:28:39 -0500, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

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>In article <flfm31tbfvqg8tl5e7ntrugplc9o8vekqb@4ax.com> playonAT@comcast.net writes:
>
>> You sound like the perfect customer for sattelite radio...
>
>I had a rental car last year that had one. 128 channels and I didn't
>even like the bluegrass one.

You are a tough guy to please... you could always drag around a
walkman or a blaster and play your old cassette tapes.

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On 3/18/05 1:19 PM, in article znr1111158443k@trad, "Mike Rivers"
<mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote:

>
> In article <BE605723.3549%ssconmag1@verizon.net> ssconmag1@verizon.net writes:
>
>> You've only just started listening to commercial radio in the last few
>> months haven't you...
>>
>> This sort of thing started recently, like around 1965...
>
> I've just started listening to comercial radio - WGMS - since WETA cut
> out music. GAWD I HATE THE ADS!

WBJC
WBJC
WBJC
WBJC...


>It's alost like public radio fund
> raising but with more annoying voices and music bumpers. You'd think
> that being a classical music station they'd produce (or request) commercials
> that don't have hard rock music behind them, but nooooo, and the voices!

GMS -used-to be real real good about both being hard on how an ad's
character (both in copy/style/read as well as bed music) fit the station's
personality. That and they had a pretty clean air chain. Last 4 years or so
I've noticed their air sound getting classical-aggressive in processing
(harsh and boomy) as well as as you say airing anything the client tosses to
traffic.Add to this that if you listen at all to WTOP-AM 1500 (and all the
many repeaters they now tout in a station ID) you'll find that they're
sister stations under Bonneville and share voices across reading tasks.


> There's one that I think is for a phone company that sounds like the classic
> drag racing SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY.
>
> They play whole classical pieces, and occasionally have a comerical-free
> hour, but when they do commercials, the blocks are 8-9 minutes. And for
> things like funeral parlors.

We're they;re center-of-the-bell-curve market target Mike... I've followed
the station since 1970... And they know it.

>
> At least at home, I can listen to something respectable over the
> Internet.

I'm only just getting the hang of this one...


> Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
> citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
> with me when I go out.

XM?
 
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In article <BE60B83E.35C2%ssconmag1@verizon.net> ssconmag1@verizon.net writes:

> WBJC
> WBJC
> WBJC
> WBJC...

They don't have a good enough signal here. I should probably try it on
my car radio though. That almost picks up WRNR around here but not quite.

> GMS -used-to be real real good about both being hard on how an ad's
> character (both in copy/style/read as well as bed music) fit the station's
> personality. That and they had a pretty clean air chain. Last 4 years or so
> I've noticed their air sound getting classical-aggressive in processing
> (harsh and boomy) as well as as you say airing anything the client tosses

I listened to the AM station as a kid and through college. I have one
of their original Happy Birthday Beethoven bumper stickers. I guess I
stopped listening to WGMS FM when Spiritous Cheese came on board at
WHFS and I never went back to WGMS until recently, so I missed the
progression (or regression).


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In article <cmbn3191fjq1atb5dtq86kc6el0b7q9fh0@4ax.com> playonAT@comcast.net writes:

> >I had a rental car last year that had one. 128 channels and I didn't
> >even like the bluegrass one.
>
> You are a tough guy to please... you could always drag around a
> walkman or a blaster and play your old cassette tapes.

Actually, on that trip, I had my Jukebox 3 along, and brought the
cassette adapter knowing that I'd be driving for six hours through god
and cow country and didn't expect to find much on the radio. First pee
stop after listening to the Sirius radio (I'm told that XM is better)
I dug out my own "tunes" and listened to that for the rest of the
trip. And in fact, I thought that even going from the radio through
the sound card, conversion to MP3, and played back through an
inductive coupling to a cassette player head, my stuff sounded better.
Less processing than the satellite radio signal. But mostly a more
intelligent choice of music and more intelligent announcing.

And, yes, I AM a hard guy to please, or more accurately, one who turns
the radio off easily.


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On 18 Mar 2005 08:02:09 -0800, "Mark" <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote:

>thats why I love Music Choice
>
>....and no (dynamic range) compression either
>
>Mark

Gotta agree with that. Nice range of styles to choose from, and they
play the "b" sides and also-ran tunes.

The local FM 'classic rock' station mentality seems to be that all of
the 'classic artists' only recorded two tunes in their entire careers,
because, it seems, they only play the same two tunes by any given
artist... incessantly.



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On 3/19/05 12:38 PM, in article 8foo315nrju4iee3lslm9nrdh8o4d6kp4p@4ax.com,
"Tracy Wintermute" <arrgh@greenapple.com> wrote:


> The local FM 'classic rock' station mentality seems to be that all of
> the 'classic artists' only recorded two tunes in their entire careers,
> because, it seems, they only play the same two tunes by any given
> artist... incessantly.

Not sure what you;re expecting from that sort of thing but it -IS- after all
just Oldies 100. Only Billboard top-sellers-by-single-airplay and THAT as we
all know indeed only understands that -Any- artist made max of 5 records
tops thru their careers... Who else will Clear Channel make a buck?
 
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:10:43 GMT, John <ssconmag1@verizon.net> wrote:

>On 3/19/05 12:38 PM, in article 8foo315nrju4iee3lslm9nrdh8o4d6kp4p@4ax.com,
>"Tracy Wintermute" <arrgh@greenapple.com> wrote:

>>it seems, they only play the same two tunes by any given
>> artist... incessantly.
>
>Not sure what you;re expecting from that sort of thing but it -IS- after all
>just Oldies 100. Only Billboard top-sellers-by-single-airplay and THAT as we
>all know indeed only understands that -Any- artist made max of 5 records

Yep, I 'spect you got a point, JV. Makes sense and certainly fits into
the current marketing/programming mindset. However, the promo schtick
they employ _does_ imply otherwise... They don't say "best sellers" or
"top 100 from the past". I mean, stuff like "we understand Zep more
than anyone else" and the like. OK... I guess, these days, that means
"we play three Zep tunes instead of just two". Anyways, point taken.

> Who else will Clear Channel make a buck?

Depends upon the doe vs buck limit next hunting season. <g>


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Mike Rivers wrote:
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> Gotta start thinking about a dashboard-sized computer and
> citywide wireless Internet. Or maybe just take a handful of my CDs
> with me when I go out.

You can get an indash CD/radio that will play MP3's for under $150 now.
A CD-R with 160-192k MP3s lasts a loooong time.

Or just rig up a jack for your NJB3...
 
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In article <3ae9q0F6ast9fU1@individual.net> kurt@nv.net writes:

> You can get an indash CD/radio that will play MP3's for under $150 now.

Like I'm gonna put it in a rental car? Sure! I have a Lexus ES-300 and
the sensible car audio shops won't touch it. Things are sufficiently
integrated, both mechanically and electrically, that you really can't
install anything aftermarket in there.

> Or just rig up a jack for your NJB3...

I use it with the cassette adapter, but once recently I almost got
screwed. The rental car they handed me had a CD player, but no
cassette player. I asked for another car.

I just heard that Hyundai says starting in 2006, it'll put an XM
satellite radio in every one of its cars. Not a special order, not a
luxury option, we're talking standard equipment.


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Mike Rivers wrote:
> In article <3ae9q0F6ast9fU1@individual.net> kurt@nv.net writes:
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>> You can get an indash CD/radio that will play MP3's for under $150 now.
>
>
> Like I'm gonna put it in a rental car? Sure!


Didn't know this was only about the rentals.


> I have a Lexus ES-300 and
> the sensible car audio shops won't touch it. Things are sufficiently
> integrated, both mechanically and electrically, that you really can't
> install anything aftermarket in there.

Do you have a CD changer in it? If not, there are companies making
adapters which will plug into the factory harness and give you a line input.






> I just heard that Hyundai says starting in 2006, it'll put an XM
> satellite radio in every one of its cars. Not a special order, not a
> luxury option, we're talking standard equipment.

I thought you didn't like the music choices on satellite?
 
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In article <3ael49F68ur52U1@individual.net> kurt@nv.net writes:

> Do you have a CD changer in it? If not, there are companies making
> adapters which will plug into the factory harness and give you a line input.

Yes, there's a 5 or maybe 6 disk CD changer. I have used it
occasionally, but I don't bother playing CDs on short trips and a full
load isn't enough for a ten hour drive, and the drive home.

I remember when shopping for a car once, saw one, a Mitsubishi
Diamante I think, that had a line inputs jack on the front panel of
the radio. I had a rental Diamante a few years ago (after I saw the
one with the jack) and it didn't have one.

I might ask about installing a jack, but I suspect that the answer
will be no. Do you know someone with a Lexus who has this
modification? If it isn't a plug-in, it's going to be too difficult to
install. Then there's the issue of where to put the jack and how to
mount it. There's so little spare real estate on the dashboard that it
would be hard to find a good place. I looked at getting an add-on CD
changer for my last ES300, one of those that mounts in the trunk and
interfaces through the antenna lead. At the shop, tried the remote
controls for three different systems and couldn't find a place to put
it where it made any sense.

I sure miss my 1949 Plymouth, which had enough room under the
dashboard to build in a barbecue grill.

> I thought you didn't like the music choices on satellite?

I didn't like what I heard on Sirius, and I suspect that I wouldn't
bother with XM either, though people tell me that it's better. This is
really a better deal for XM than it is for me. Think of all the people
who will be tempted to subscribe because they already have the
hardware. I doubt that I would.


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.....I remember when shopping for a car once, saw one, a Mitsubishi
Diamante I think, that had a line inputs jack on the front panel of
the radio.....................

Hmmm, curious, what kind of jack was it, the standard little stereo
headphone jack? How did you select the input. I've been thinking
about making a mod like this for my car. My guess is to simply wire a
standard little jack across the radio volumne conrol then drive in from
the low Z headphone output of the portable which will "override"
whatever the radio is trying to play.

Mark
 
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