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In article <il6js0dkpvl0q59fcoe4ffj3ha1chcukua@4ax.com> hahn@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de writes:

> Dunno. I haven't installed SP2 yet. But, by default, file and print
> sharing is disabled in the firewall that SP2 installs.

Is that printer sharing, like I have a printer connected to one
computer on the network, and I can print to it from another computer
on the network? I'll bet a lot of people use that. And file sharing?
Like I can open a Word file on one computer that resides on another
one? I do that a lot, too.

> SERVICES.EXE is the loader for a couple of services. Some of them
> don't have an individual name, thusly services.exe or svchost.exe
> is reported as a name by such toys like Zone Alarm rather than the
> requested function. That could be time synch, auto update of a
> virus scanner, auto update of some application - not necessarily
> malware.

I try to keep auto-updates turned off, but sometimes you don't know
they're there until you catch them in action. I just installed a new
version of AVG Anti Virus (got an e-mail saying that in five days
they'd no longer support the version I'd been using) and that one
didn't give me a choice of auto-update and auto-run on installation. I
had to find them (through a slightly different user interface) and
turn them off once I caught the program running when I wasn't
expecting it, and downloading a new version of the virus definition
file when I hadn't told it to.


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>The question appeared to be on the topic of file and print sharing.
>These are local network functions that have nothing to do with your
>ISP or the internet. If people are doing file and print sharing over
>the public internet, they have more serious issues than SP2.
>
True, but the original topic posted was how could he have internet and
audio applications on the same pc and create different profiles when
he wanted to use each seperately.That may be hard to do, but in case
he decides to set up his pc this way, he should be careful what he
installs.

>> For isp's that run as many as 15 processes like AOL, the
>> windows firewall has corrupted the connectivity services,
>> and disabled other necessary services such as remote access
>> connection manager.
>
>Just another good reason to avoid those invasive ISPs.

Any audio pc should be set up for audio, and not for the internet. But
any isp that only uses Internet Explorer to connect will also
necessitate the installation of firewall, anti virus, and spyware
applications to protect the pc.In the end, it will be just as invasive
as using an isp like AOL, which includes a free firewall, anti virus
and spyware application.

Randall
 
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"Randall Shawver" wrote ...
> Any audio pc should be set up for audio, and not for the internet.

Most certainly. No argument whatsoever.

> But any isp that only uses Internet Explorer to connect will also
> necessitate the installation of firewall, anti virus, and spyware
> applications to protect the pc.
> In the end, it will be just as invasive as using an isp like AOL,
> which includes a free firewall, anti virus and spyware application.

Well, the difference is that if you install any firewalls, anti-virus,
software, etc. etc., you KNOW about it. AOL (et. al.) do it behind
your back. And you can bet they are changing things you wouldn't
agree to if they gave you a choice.
 
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 19:54:02 -0800, "Richard Crowley"
<rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:

>"Randall Shawver" wrote ...
>> Any audio pc should be set up for audio, and not for the internet.
>
>Most certainly. No argument whatsoever.
>
>> But any isp that only uses Internet Explorer to connect will also
>> necessitate the installation of firewall, anti virus, and spyware
>> applications to protect the pc.
>> In the end, it will be just as invasive as using an isp like AOL,
>> which includes a free firewall, anti virus and spyware application.
>
>Well, the difference is that if you install any firewalls, anti-virus,
>software, etc. etc., you KNOW about it. AOL (et. al.) do it behind
>your back. And you can bet they are changing things you wouldn't
>agree to if they gave you a choice.

Actually, AOL does not install anything behind your back. When you
upgrade to a new version, you can skip installing the anti virus,
firewall and spyware protection. Most people do not stop to read the
pages though, and just install everything.

Randall
 
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"Randall Shawver" wrote ...
> Actually, AOL does not install anything behind your back.

Oh my. What a naive and trusting worldview. I sincerely wish
you good luck as you will need it.

> When you upgrade to a new version, you can skip installing
> the anti virus, firewall and spyware protection. Most people
> do not stop to read the pages though, and just install everything.

We are talking about things much more fundamental and insidious
than the add-on visible marketing pieces that you are refering to.
 
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"Randall Shawver" <rshawve2@tampabay.rr.com>

> Actually, AOL does not install anything behind your back.


Bzzzzzzzz....

Sorry, but thanks for playing...


;-)
 
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On 22 Dec 2004 21:17:33 -0500, mrivers@d-and-d.com (Mike Rivers)
wrote:

>
>In article <il6js0dkpvl0q59fcoe4ffj3ha1chcukua@4ax.com> hahn@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de writes:
>
>> Dunno. I haven't installed SP2 yet. But, by default, file and print
>> sharing is disabled in the firewall that SP2 installs.
>
>Is that printer sharing, like I have a printer connected to one
>computer on the network, and I can print to it from another computer
>on the network? I'll bet a lot of people use that. And file sharing?
>Like I can open a Word file on one computer that resides on another
>one? I do that a lot, too.

Maybe the installation routine for the SP2 behaves differently
depending on the network connection. Usually file and printer
sharing is not used over dial up connection. Those installation
that were reported to got the sharing disabled had a LAN type
connection via external router to DSL.

>... I just installed a new
>version of AVG Anti Virus (got an e-mail saying that in five days
>they'd no longer support the version I'd been using)

Having an old virus scanner is almost as bad as having none
at all.

>and that one
>didn't give me a choice of auto-update and auto-run on installation. I
>had to find them (through a slightly different user interface) and
>turn them off once I caught the program running when I wasn't
>expecting it, and downloading a new version of the virus definition
>file when I hadn't told it to.

Auto update of some programs is controlled via the options menu,
some other program establish a configurator in the control panel
of Windows...

Norbert
 
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On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:11:11 -0800, "Richard Crowley"
<rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:

>"Randall Shawver" wrote ...
>> Actually, AOL does not install anything behind your back.
>
>Oh my. What a naive and trusting worldview. I sincerely wish
>you good luck as you will need it.

Name a program that lets you dictate every dll and exe to be
installed.You want the program to work you install the essentials.
You do not have to install the extras.
>
>> When you upgrade to a new version, you can skip installing
>> the anti virus, firewall and spyware protection. Most people
>> do not stop to read the pages though, and just install everything.
>
>We are talking about things much more fundamental and insidious
>than the add-on visible marketing pieces that you are refering to.

And I use AOL for surfing, and never get a spyware popup. Using
Internet Explorer is like dodging bullets.To each his own, but AOL
works a lot better for me than IE, or netscape.

Randall
 
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Randall Shawver wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 07:11:11 -0800, "Richard Crowley"
> <rcrowley7@xprt.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"Randall Shawver" wrote ...
>>
>>>Actually, AOL does not install anything behind your back.
>>
>>Oh my. What a naive and trusting worldview. I sincerely wish
>>you good luck as you will need it.
>
>
> Name a program that lets you dictate every dll and exe to be
> installed.You want the program to work you install the essentials.
> You do not have to install the extras.


Well, you couldn't dictate or it wouldn't work when installed. But the
Microsoft Wheel Mouse driver installer for OSX lists all the files
(about six) it's about to install and where. Now, THAT's polite.

Now, why the Windows version of the mouse driver needs to connect to the
Internet, I don't know, but it sure wants to.

But to stay on-off-topic, what on Earth makes you think that AOL's
marketing research tool is not a bare essential, or they'd ask you for
permission to install it?
 
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Mike Rivers (mrivers@d-and-d.com)
in article <znr1103752111k@trad> wrote:
> hahn@hrzpub.tu-darmstadt.de writes:
>
> > Dunno. I haven't installed SP2 yet. But, by default, file and print
> > sharing is disabled in the firewall that SP2 installs.
>
> Is that printer sharing, like I have a printer connected to one
> computer on the network, and I can print to it from another computer
> on the network? I'll bet a lot of people use that. And file sharing?
> Like I can open a Word file on one computer that resides on another
> one? I do that a lot, too.


I'm rusty on the details. But one hint that File and Printer Sharing can work
when disabled [or, rather, 'blocked'] by a firewall, is that it doesn't require
TCP/IP at all to function over the local network. If interested, look up
NetBIOS, NetBEUI, and network bindings.

-Brian
 
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In article <jkims0pk6egqmdclma0oillrj80n8qp05h@4ax.com> hahn@hrz.tu-darmstadt.de writes:

> Having an old virus scanner is almost as bad as having none
> at all.

With me, a virus scanner is just something to make me feel good about
my personal (computer) hygene. Never got a virus, at least not one
that was ever found, and that affected the performance. That doesn't
mean I can be careless, though. I guess I just don't do the things or
go to the web sites that cause viruses.

> Auto update of some programs is controlled via the options menu,
> some other program establish a configurator in the control panel
> of Windows...

Oh, I figured it out, but the point was that it behaved like (and
really way) a brand new installation, not an upgrade that had the
decency to look at what it was replacing and behave likewise.


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