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CeeBee wrote:
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet@snet.net.invalid> wrote in
> comp.sys.laptops:
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>> What, 21" display? Pretty good right now, getting better as the
>> prices come down. Terabyte array? A couple of episodes of CSI
>> Miami fill up my laptop.
>
> Prices coming down is no indication of growing sales;
Actually it is--it reflects economies of scale that come from increased
sales volume.
> neither is
> your ability to put a couple of episodes of CSI on your laptop. ..
That's the point. I can put a _couple_ and it's _full_.
>> How many _need_ a spec higher than that of a Palm Pilot?
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
>> If it's got a big enough screen for everyday use then it's not
>> very portable.
>
> I have a 17" laptop screen and it's very portable.
But for me 17" is not big enough for everyday use.
> A truckload of
> people is still sitting behind their 15" CRT _desktop_ screen.
So?
>> What trend? On what information are you basing your contention
>> that that is the trend?
>
>
> Simply look at developments. Mac Mini, PC Mac Mini clones, smaller
> media systems for TV, PDA's, mobile phones, iPODs, laptops, just a
> selection.
Sorry, but you are confusing products with markets. Every major vendor has
one or more reduced form factor machines and has for years. They sell to a
few niches, but they aren't hte mainstream.
> Main development for consumer PC's -except for the small group of
> heavy users - is fitting into the living room,
How many consumers put the PC in the living room? I do, but I'm a nerd.
> silence,
There are completely silent desktop cases. The manufacturers don't sell
enough of them to get the prices down. And laptops with performance
equivalent to a desktop are not silent.
> portability,
So you assert. Personally I don't think that a portable machine "fits into
the living room" very well.
> energy consumption.
And that of course is why Intel has recently introduced their most
power-hungry processors to date. Energy consumption from computers is
minuscule compared to that of other common energy users in residences.
> The application of 'mobile'
> processors in desktops to keep them more silent and more energy
> friendly is another example of the demand for compact, energy
> friendly and more silent.
No, it's an example of some manufacturers _hoping_ that there is such a
demand. Do most desktop machines use mobile processors? If not, why not
if there is such a huge demand for them.
> It doesn't mean you don't have the right to own a great bulky top-
> end system. All I indicated that for 90% of the consumers a decent
> laptop is a perfect replacement for their current desktop PC. For
> them, it has everything. Not for you.
I think you have some fundamental misconceptions about the relationship
between products and markets. If you want to know where the market is, you
need to find out what consumers are buying, not what manufacturers are
_hoping_ that they will buy. So far all you have said is that "a few
manufacturers are introducing machines with thus and so features therefore
they are what the market is demanding".
By your reasoning there was a huge market for the Edsel.
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