Something about the road to hell being paved with good intentions. Yeah, the more of a police state you have the lower the crime, is it a healthy trade?
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[citation][nom]kinggraves[/nom]It really bothers the marketing director when they can't be sure the names they're selling to advertisers are real or not. How can they inform you of the breakthroughs in penis enlargement if they can't get a hold of you?Anonymous wants you to remember the 5th of November.[/citation]
If they want a cock-and-ball story.. I say listen to a stupid cow for a few minutes; especially one advocating no privacy online.
If they want a cock-and-ball story.. I say listen to a stupid cow for a few minutes; especially one advocating no privacy online.
[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]Sounds like Facebook is advocating for real life bullying rather than cyber bullying. The only thing that showing real names will do to curb trolls is if people fear real life consequences, and people will only fear that if it indeed does start happening.[/citation]
And you guys who use facebook are idiots for putting it there.
And you guys who use facebook are idiots for putting it there.
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I love your "The Unknown Comic" picture. Seeing it brings back fond memories of "The Gong Show!"
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[citation][nom]acadia11[/nom]And you guys who use facebook are idiots for putting it there.[/citation]
I do not know why you quoted me for this insulting comment.
I will have you know I have NEVER been on Facebook. As a matter of fact the primary reason I left World of Warcraft a few months back after playing it since launch was because of their partnership with Facebook with the Real ID service.
The fact is Facebook's wanting anonymity gone from the internet has NOTHING to do with protecting people whatsoever. A person with even a glimmer of common sense can see it would do the opposite. What this is all about is Facebook finding more and more ways to get a hold of people's personal information to sell to marketers.
I do not know why you quoted me for this insulting comment.
I will have you know I have NEVER been on Facebook. As a matter of fact the primary reason I left World of Warcraft a few months back after playing it since launch was because of their partnership with Facebook with the Real ID service.
The fact is Facebook's wanting anonymity gone from the internet has NOTHING to do with protecting people whatsoever. A person with even a glimmer of common sense can see it would do the opposite. What this is all about is Facebook finding more and more ways to get a hold of people's personal information to sell to marketers.
Of all things to say that would be something to say, why is someones real name the most of interest?
Obvioulsy more then none probably for some identifications more then none of course, rather its a friend being rude or just as what some friends do maybe, or a family member and the like, but otherwords/afterwards yes, the idea does fit its place for what the issue may be.
But does it give that of saying needing to use your real name at times find its place of difference?
Of the issue to say of issues does';t seem very reasonable at times but for of it only when it is there. Yes? Obviously probably using a service for a real name basis but still of it though is that of where that is and isn't many times over. The internet is the internet but sometimes its not very big after awhile, rather it really is or not as well to say too.
Does this aid though the say facts of ideas for an issue to present another? The issue is at times changing names too many times, but then of this is the conflicts of having the same names too many times. Many thoughts that is for sure at times more then not.
Shouldn't always seem maybe like a say of "mid-life" crisis to say, just cause someone is going to know your name or not, but does it tend to be an issue either way? Maybe at not all times of course for the issue. But still of it, why is there so much emphasis??
Idk, ya know, when in terms of interest at times something aren't best for the idea even if you use them, either way. So what of it? Usually people change there names anyways cause they don't really fit for whatever reason as well, with the usage of them. Who knows why, but there is many basic things though too to have one there. This probably takes an interest more then not as well. But does vary.
They will either go for the change and the like, be liked at times and maybe not liked at others, by others/of others the most. Liked or not or for or against.
Obvioulsy more then none probably for some identifications more then none of course, rather its a friend being rude or just as what some friends do maybe, or a family member and the like, but otherwords/afterwards yes, the idea does fit its place for what the issue may be.
But does it give that of saying needing to use your real name at times find its place of difference?
Of the issue to say of issues does';t seem very reasonable at times but for of it only when it is there. Yes? Obviously probably using a service for a real name basis but still of it though is that of where that is and isn't many times over. The internet is the internet but sometimes its not very big after awhile, rather it really is or not as well to say too.
Does this aid though the say facts of ideas for an issue to present another? The issue is at times changing names too many times, but then of this is the conflicts of having the same names too many times. Many thoughts that is for sure at times more then not.
Shouldn't always seem maybe like a say of "mid-life" crisis to say, just cause someone is going to know your name or not, but does it tend to be an issue either way? Maybe at not all times of course for the issue. But still of it, why is there so much emphasis??
Idk, ya know, when in terms of interest at times something aren't best for the idea even if you use them, either way. So what of it? Usually people change there names anyways cause they don't really fit for whatever reason as well, with the usage of them. Who knows why, but there is many basic things though too to have one there. This probably takes an interest more then not as well. But does vary.
They will either go for the change and the like, be liked at times and maybe not liked at others, by others/of others the most. Liked or not or for or against.
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Hmmm...So the sister of the man who won't let anyone else with the name Mark Zuckerberg have a FaceBook account(There can be only ONE!) wants to end anonymity on the internet.
RRIIGGHHTT.
RRIIGGHHTT.
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From one $h!t to another. No point, man. Google+ is already aiming in the same direction as FB: they already have silly games and such...
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Actually I think they've got a point.. I dont really see anything wrong with limiting anonymity on the net.. for one thing it would stop the dude trying to sell Air Jordans in every 5th comment on this site 😛.
I really dont think losing anonymity would stop freedom of speech, or people expressing themselves and being creative... i do it all the time in real life.. and i'm fine - i dont think its terribly healthy having to hide behind an anonymous identity to say the things we believe in - just man up and say/do thing things you want. And if people dont agree with you, thats fine, its healthy, just dont feel like you need to hide.
The only reason cyber bulling occurs is because people feel 'anonymous', like they can get away with it - the only reason real life bulling occurs is because they think no ones watching. in the schoolyard - no teachers, no parents - bullying happens, the same in the workplace - if people think they can get away with it without others knowing, they'll do it. Its when openness and scrutiny from others occurs - from your friends, your boss, your co-workers, your family -that people stop being douches. I believe that once we have a more open society everything will be roses.
I really dont think losing anonymity would stop freedom of speech, or people expressing themselves and being creative... i do it all the time in real life.. and i'm fine - i dont think its terribly healthy having to hide behind an anonymous identity to say the things we believe in - just man up and say/do thing things you want. And if people dont agree with you, thats fine, its healthy, just dont feel like you need to hide.
The only reason cyber bulling occurs is because people feel 'anonymous', like they can get away with it - the only reason real life bulling occurs is because they think no ones watching. in the schoolyard - no teachers, no parents - bullying happens, the same in the workplace - if people think they can get away with it without others knowing, they'll do it. Its when openness and scrutiny from others occurs - from your friends, your boss, your co-workers, your family -that people stop being douches. I believe that once we have a more open society everything will be roses.
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Anonymity lets people be who they really are. If you are shocked and horrified by this, you should probably take a closer look at the societal outlook that creates these people.
If you don't like the societal outlook, change it... which of course gets to the heart of this matter and the ulterior motive of these sites. Those in power don't really want you to change things, which is why they'd be much happier knowing who is exposing them and their systems.
Oh yeah, links
http://www.businessinsider.com/10-reasons-to-delete-your-facebook-account-2010-5
http://www.facebookhaters.com/?p=3
If you don't like the societal outlook, change it... which of course gets to the heart of this matter and the ulterior motive of these sites. Those in power don't really want you to change things, which is why they'd be much happier knowing who is exposing them and their systems.
Oh yeah, links
http://www.businessinsider.com/10-reasons-to-delete-your-facebook-account-2010-5
http://www.facebookhaters.com/?p=3
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no anonimity should not be eradicated this is what we call liberty if we begin to dont have any anonimity then there is no freedom and is the question is does gorverment spying on people for information is really privacy or freedom.. sorry for my english
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[citation][nom]RoboTree[/nom]Actually I think they've got a point.. I dont really see anything wrong with limiting anonymity on the net.. for one thing it would stop the dude trying to sell Air Jordans in every 5th comment on this site .I really dont think losing anonymity would stop freedom of speech, or people expressing themselves and being creative... i do it all the time in real life.. and i'm fine - i dont think its terribly healthy having to hide behind an anonymous identity to say the things we believe in - just man up and say/do thing things you want. And if people dont agree with you, thats fine, its healthy, just dont feel like you need to hide.The only reason cyber bulling occurs is because people feel 'anonymous', like they can get away with it - the only reason real life bulling occurs is because they think no ones watching. in the schoolyard - no teachers, no parents - bullying happens, the same in the workplace - if people think they can get away with it without others knowing, they'll do it. Its when openness and scrutiny from others occurs - from your friends, your boss, your co-workers, your family -that people stop being douches. I believe that once we have a more open society everything will be roses.[/citation]
And please explain Robo how losing anonymity on the internet is suppose to make people fear consequences? And what consequences does one need to face?
Now I am not saying that bullying of any form is any good, but let's really take a look at cyberbullying. Where it most affects people is when they are already known to each other, when they know each other's identities. In those cases anonymity is not a consideration.
Let's be honest, the only way losing anonymity on the internet can modify behavior is if real life consequences follow. What should those be? Fired from a job? Expelled from school? Perhaps someone should be hunted down and beaten up for making a "troll" post on some forum?
And yes, losing anonymity CAN hinder free speech. Some people feel more comfortable expressing their real, inner feelings on political, spiritual and other matters when they don't have a fear that an employer or a family member who has different beliefs can "get back at them".
I am sorry you have fallen for the "The internet will be a more civil place if we are all known for who we are" line. It will be no more of a civil place, and in fact will be a place where people with legitimate views will think twice about expressing them for any possible backlash. Indeed, the rude and the trolls will have no fear and will have a larger voice because of the diminished participation of the legitmate views.
No, this idea by Facebook is for one reason and one reason only. Dollars. The more information about people they have, the more they will be able to sell to marketers for a profit. It's rather odd that over the years people have hated Microsoft or Apple or Google for a belief they held too much power when Facebook is gaining more and more power than any of them combined. And we are all asleep while they take it.
And please explain Robo how losing anonymity on the internet is suppose to make people fear consequences? And what consequences does one need to face?
Now I am not saying that bullying of any form is any good, but let's really take a look at cyberbullying. Where it most affects people is when they are already known to each other, when they know each other's identities. In those cases anonymity is not a consideration.
Let's be honest, the only way losing anonymity on the internet can modify behavior is if real life consequences follow. What should those be? Fired from a job? Expelled from school? Perhaps someone should be hunted down and beaten up for making a "troll" post on some forum?
And yes, losing anonymity CAN hinder free speech. Some people feel more comfortable expressing their real, inner feelings on political, spiritual and other matters when they don't have a fear that an employer or a family member who has different beliefs can "get back at them".
I am sorry you have fallen for the "The internet will be a more civil place if we are all known for who we are" line. It will be no more of a civil place, and in fact will be a place where people with legitimate views will think twice about expressing them for any possible backlash. Indeed, the rude and the trolls will have no fear and will have a larger voice because of the diminished participation of the legitmate views.
No, this idea by Facebook is for one reason and one reason only. Dollars. The more information about people they have, the more they will be able to sell to marketers for a profit. It's rather odd that over the years people have hated Microsoft or Apple or Google for a belief they held too much power when Facebook is gaining more and more power than any of them combined. And we are all asleep while they take it.
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