FBI Wants ISPs to Keep Record of Sites You Visit

[Lewis57]

Those logs would be huge. For me alone, the list would have around 58400 sites. (Assuming that i visit 80 sites a day {divide that by a computer heavy 4 member family, thats 20 sites each, which is probably minimum} x 730, Also take into account me and my sister are stumbleupon addicts, i probbaly visit 20 in a 5 minutes when i'm seriously bored.)

 

[Foxer57]

Well, I suppose freedom is not free, but still, comon!

 

[chomlee]

if every person in the US visited 100 ip addresses each day it would be about
300,000,000 people X 365 days/yr X 100 ip addresses/person * 15 Bytes/address
=164 terrabytes/year

See, thats not so bad

 

[CptTripps]

How about this, monitor registered offenders for 50 years and leave the rest of us alone.

 

[spentshells]

[citation][nom]macclearly[/nom]Being from Canada makes me very greatful for a moderate government who hasn't gone completely mad with power since 9/11.[/citation]

They have Harper just passed a bill when he got in making it so he doesnt have to tell anything to anyone about it

 

[filmman03]

so is this going to be taken out of our paychecks too?

 

[invlem]

I think its kind of overkill to require all history to be recorded for 2 years...

While I can see the merit behind their reasoning isn't there some sort of white/black list out there for sites with questionable content?

If a person uses the internet for legitimate purposes and browses legal content I honestly don't think their browsing history should be accessible, from the looks of it the FBI just wants to profile every american citizen regardless if their activity is illegal or not. Seems a bit too 'big brother' to me.

Next thing they'll want is to know is every book, movie and newspaper you read. When you take your washroom breaks, etc, etc.

 

[agentjon]

What will they do when all the logs are lost in a tragic boating accident?

 

[retirepresident]

This is BS. We might as well live in a communist country.

 

[wintermint]

how the hell does child porno work if some of us are also children X_X

 

[shanky887614]

this is like putting lipstick on a bear to descise it

anyway there just anoying im glad i live in the uk where they can't affect me that much

ive just had an idea wont this boost sales for tunneling sites?
the isp's cant track us if we tunnel everthing.
first thing this brings to mind is ssh tunneling heeck we allready have the tech to do it


if i lived in usa i would tunnel everthing through an ssh tunnel or soemthing in another country

 

[coldmast]

The Future is here.
THX 1138.

 

[Caine775]

They always thrown in the child porn angle when they want to infringe on your rights. Then if you protest, they spin it as if your defending child porn.

 

[godwhomismike]

Damn, what next? Are they gonna do surprise inspections of everyone's house to make sure no one "is harboring WMDs?"

 

[Guest]

They had already begun tracking everyone's in their "legal" ways. No one can do nothing againt it, not an average citicen. They are just too powerful. It has no difference whether ISPs cooperating or not. They are just telling you "dont do stupid things", instead of sending manpower to catch you

 

[Lunarion]

another attempt at destroying the constitution.

 

[RIKHOLLIS]

@chomlee,

Would you feel any different if the FBI just wanted to follow you everywhere you went, recording each and every house and business address you visited; not the content of your conversations, just the address and the names of the people who lived there? Or for convenience sake, what if they just wanted to plant an RFID in you to record the same info and save on the manpower that following you would entail?
You're probably a great person, no reason for anyone to think different, but it is the folks who trust their government's judgement and discretion, who feel that they have nothing to hide; that allow the individuals running these agencies to whittle away, bit-by-bit at our personal freedoms in such a manner as to link protest with some kind of criminal guilt.
I'm not guilty of anything other than wanting to preserve every freedom granted to me by by virtue of being born American. I'll not willingly give up freedoms that better men bought for me with their lives. Freedom of Association seems to be the one at risk here...

 

[drksilenc]

this reminds me of the simpsons movie where there like HEY I FINALLY GOT ONE... what a blippin waste

 

[LORD_ORION]

Be pragmatic... open the door and things begin to creep over the boundary of intent.

You also need to understand that desperate people will do bad things to cover their own asses.

So even if it isn't an evil FBI agent one day just looking to ruin some random person's life, you need to understand that this can and will harm innocent people when the right permutation of events occur.

Close the door hard on this crap... and tell them to do their damn jobs without all the invasive methods.

If anything, not keeping all the pertinent information is even worse then just the site tracking, because then they can just start making up crap to fit their needs.

One more thing.... this IS NOT like tapping a phone, because there is no way to prove who the person on the web is.

 

[Tomtompiper]

Great wall of china stops Chinese getting to sensitive internet sites , these rules will let US citizens get there but prosecute them later. Why don't the FBI just make a Great wall of America? It would save a lot of time and money.