FBI Wants ISPs to Keep Record of Sites You Visit

[bison88]

Lets not forget how is this going to solve anything with the tools such as "Tor" alone. If everyone started using it instead of the few million the FBI would give up on this effort immediately.

 

[Guest]

LOL!!! I use a proxy

 

[Guest]

Its time to get off the grid. 1984 has arrived!

 

[Nimmist]

A few years ago an FBI agent went after a friend of mine for child pornography, one of his computers was hacked and being used as a relay. It almost ruined his life. His wife was asked if he was ever left alone with their two daughters (he is the father, duh!). Someone from child protection came and consoled his daughters asking them he ever put his arms around them or pat their legs. Again, he is the father, it is fine for him to hug and show non-sexual affection. When the FBI agent confiscated his computers he asked my friend if he had any pictures of naked children, to which his wife told him they had pictures of their daughters. The FBI’s face got grim, but the sheriff that was with him must have been a family man because he was having a difficult time keeping a straight face.
In the end it turned into a witch hunt with the FBI agent insisting my friend was guilty while the agent’s boss dropped the case. While I’m all for going after anyone involved with child pornography, but FBI seems to be better at destroying innocent people’s lives.

 

[littlec]

DAMNIT the last thing i need is more people catching me watching my porn.

 

[littlec]

Also check out free VPN services if you wana know what soldier37 was talking about.

 

[wenty]

The Untied States will continue to implode on it's self.... We are all controlled and are slaves to the ones who govern.

The Roman Empire will repeat it's self.

 

[icemunk]

hah, and we think China is bad

 

[fafner]

[citation][nom]macclearly[/nom]Being from Canada makes me very greatful for a moderate government who hasn't gone completely mad with power since 9/11.[/citation]

Not that it makes a whole lot of difference. http/www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMRe2tusDhQ

 

[rags_20]

[citation][nom]chomlee[/nom]if every person in the US visited 100 ip addresses each day it would be about 300,000,000 people X 365 days/yr X 100 ip addresses/person * 15 Bytes/address=164 terrabytes/yearSee, thats not so bad[/citation]
Its not just the address. They would have to store date visited, time visited, your IP etc. So it would be well over 500 TB.

 

[etichi]

Can they keep my magazine subscriptions on a list.
How about all incoming and outgoing mail too? Would that help?
Keep track of my phone calls.
Keep track of where I spend my money.
Keep track of my emails.

Just in case. Welcome to now, gentlemen. the Beast is here.

 

[Gin Fushicho]

God, so I have to have more of my privacy eliminated? I already have very little as it is , I don't want anymore of my privacy takin from me.

 

[jednx01]

Ok... I don't usually leave this type of comment, but this time I will make an exception.... FBI: FU!!!!!!!!!! (I know you guys are big on acronyms up there, so I hope that I didn't just make you guys happy.)

 

[nforce4max]

I am SICK of big brother and those in the bureau need to learn that every one isn't some push over sheeple. Second we have rights not liberties that can be taken away at will they are unalienable thus not subject to those brown nosers in the government. I hate elitist pricks. Viva freedom and free speech on the net every ware!!!!


Some profanity please................ "Blow it out of your ass"

 

[TeKEffect]

[citation][nom]invlem[/nom]I think its kind of overkill to require all history to be recorded for 2 years...While I can see the merit behind their reasoning isn't there some sort of white/black list out there for sites with questionable content? If a person uses the internet for legitimate purposes and browses legal content I honestly don't think their browsing history should be accessible, from the looks of it the FBI just wants to profile every american citizen regardless if their activity is illegal or not. Seems a bit too 'big brother' to me.Next thing they'll want is to know is every book, movie and newspaper you read. When you take your washroom breaks, etc, etc.[/citation]
Id have to agree. The government is siezing way to much power and they will always have the excuse to catch the bad guys.. look at our prisons, we catch plenty of bad guys. In CA we cant even afford to hold them anymore. I'd like to keep my civil liberties and privacy please.

 

[Atticah]

looks like they'll be openin new positions for isp's to investigate peoples browsing of the interweb

 

[Reynod]

I wouldn't like to try to put lipstick on a bear ...

That would be a job for the CIA ... not the FBI.

 

[BluntObjection]

[citation][nom]necronic[/nom]Man, I guess there are only a few of us on here who would actually like to some some policing of the internet. There are some REALLY bad things that the internet, by nature, supports. And I would REALLY like to see them stopped. This goes from cp to open-circuit webcam/security cam hacking to identity thieves to support of terrorist agencies.Also, stop with all the analogies to the real world when describing whats going on here. The internet is a wholly different beast, so those analogies aren't real. People here seem so interested in acknowledging that when talking about piracy, but in privacy? No, that's totally different...Its not like this kind of data snooping isn't already done. Your grocery store tracks all of your purchases through their "discount card" to improve their logistics. Every website out there records massive amounts of user data for the exact same purpose. Anyone who has run a website could tell you that the amount of data you get from visitors is STAGGERING.The only difference is that this is "the man" and everyone immediately assumes he is out to get you, or that any increase in security is a slippery slope to a "prison planet". Of course, whenever someone does get nailed by an id thief their attitude imediately changes and they want to know why no one has done anything to stop this...And remember, this is NON-CONTENT data. No emails, passwords, etc.. But when the FBI does find a CP or IDTheft ring, they would have the ability to really nail the sons of sodom that are using it.[/citation]

The internet doesn't need to be policed though, its the PEOPLE who create the websites that need to be policed.
Restricting the whole for the sake of a few is a common practice now.
Gun control laws get stricter, because of gang fear and terrorism, yet the large majority of people who would buy guns aren't out to kill anybody, but suddenly its much hard for them to get their own protection.
Going through the security at the airport stops just short of bare skin parade through the metal detector, all to stop the few who would cause us harm.
Now if you give over your privacy of the internet don't you think its going to follow the same process? Might be records one year, the next government enforced software. Next time you get your taxes audited maybe they'll send a Federal IT guy to audit your PC while they are at it.
It might seem like I'm getting in over my head a bit with conspiracy theories, but when you think about it. A few years back at the airport we where just removing any large liquids from our bags...Now look where we are.

 

[anamaniac]

My big, hairy, sweaty, unwashed balls.

Suck 'em.

 

[technuttso]

I guess u will have to switch to Torpark.