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Didimo wrote:


>
>
> AAAAMEEEN TO YOU BOTH!!! The O2/Videopac (I'm from Italy) was my first
> programmable system, and to this day I still wonder why one life only.

>From my understanding, most of the O2 games were programmed by the same
guy. Maybe we should try to track him down and ask him (or perhaps
there's an interview posted somewhere where the question is asked)

> When I eventually got an Atari VCS after the crash (I had sold my
> Videopac to buy an Intellivision, and then later got a Colecovision;

I started off with a VCS, and had that for a long time but I was always
fascinated by the Intellivision... so around 1982 or so I had $200 and
on an impulse I bought a "Tandyvision" from Radio Shack (which was
exactly the same as an Intellivision). I had some great times with that
Tandyvision, honest to God I really enjoyed it, but after 7 days I got
the "Black screen of death". I decided just to return the unit and get
my money back, and bought a Colecovision for $214 including Michigan
sales tax. I think it was the right choice. The only comprable choice
at the time would have been an Atari 400/800 computer.

> the VCS came from a trade with a friend, after I had gotten sick of
> playing the same Inty games over and over and I couldn't find any new
> ones anymore...) I missed my Videopac and its superior games. Poorer
> graphics, maybe (that's debatable), but still WAY better in terms of
> playability, fun factor and overall appearance.
>
> Fear not: back years ago I bought a complete in box O2 + tons of
> games, and a few years back I found an elusive Videopac 7400 + some
> fun + (7400 enhanced) games back on vacation in Italy.

What is this and what makes it different from an O2?
 
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Turbo-Torch wrote:


>
> I dunno. I've heard the rumors that it couldn't be programmed in due
> to system constraints or the programmers (mainly one guy) didn't know
> how to program in more lives.

I've thought about this myself, but that would have been a real basic
routine that ANY programmer would know how to do. Someone needs to
track this guy down and make him accountable to answer for this.
 
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>To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?

To me it looked more like he smoked pot laced with LSD.


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On 12 Sep 2005 19:56:10 -0700, "The Space Boss" <drsmith666@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>Turbo-Torch wrote:
>> On 12 Sep 2005 14:57:17 -0700, "The Space Boss" <drsmith666@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >MrBiggles wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Ms. Pac-man would never be satisfied by KC Munchkin... there's a reason
>> >> why that's his name.
>> >
>> >To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>> >KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>
>>
>> Only about a million times over. While the O2 was very limited it
>> still had some of the most kick ass games of all time like KC, Pick Ax
>> Pete and UFO.
>
>Agreed but can you tell me sir, WHY is it that every O^2 game I can
>remember playing only gives you ONE LIFE????? Why is that? Why don't
>you get 3 KC Munchkins to start with???

I dunno. I've heard the rumors that it couldn't be programmed in due
to system constraints or the programmers (mainly one guy) didn't know
how to program in more lives.

Can't say I didn't like the one life, it made things more challenging
and gave more replay value imo. Plus it just made it different than
all the other systems. Another difference was the low scores where
most items were worth 1 to 5 points. Good score on the O2 was 100
points, other systems 100,000.
 
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jrleek@soda.csua.berkeley.edu (James Robert Leek) wrote in news:dg508e$1h03
$1@agate.berkeley.edu:

>>To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>>KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>
> To me it looked more like he smoked pot laced with LSD.
>
>

Mmmm... pot laced with LSD...

The stupid things I did when I was a stoner... 8*)


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Chuck Whitby wrote:
> jrleek@soda.csua.berkeley.edu (James Robert Leek) wrote in news:dg508e$1h03
> $1@agate.berkeley.edu:
>
>
>>>To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>>>KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>
>> To me it looked more like he smoked pot laced with LSD.
>>
>>
>
>
> Mmmm... pot laced with LSD...
>
> The stupid things I did when I was a stoner... 8*)

Wow, I had you pegged for more of a nerdy guy. Did you have long hair
and listen to Led Zeppelin as well?
 
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"The Space Boss" <drsmith666@aol.com> wrote in
news:1126580037.670333.136830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

>
> James Robert Leek wrote:
>> >To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>> >KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>
>> To me it looked more like he smoked pot laced with LSD.
>
> I did that once, and it was NOT FUN NOT FOR A SINGLE MINUTE. Had
> flashbacks for years after as well.
>
>

Atari Flashbacks? *rimshot*


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"Aaron J. Bossig" <linkvb06@SpammersWillBeExecuted.ptd.net> wrote in
news:Xns96CFD4762CA6Alinkvb06SpammersWill@204.186.200.105:

> "The Space Boss" <drsmith666@aol.com> wrote in
> news:1126562237.677131.229330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>>> Ms. Pac-man would never be satisfied by KC Munchkin... there's a reason
>>> why that's his name.
>>
>> To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>> KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>
> I think KFC should bring back their smoked BBQ wings, if that's
> what you mean.
>
>
>

I'll tell you what, I don't eat there often, but KFC freakin' rules. Their
popcorn chicken is teh leet snack food.

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Chuck Whitby <chuck@toomanygames.com> wrote in
news:Xns96CFE96B88914chucktoomanygamescom@199.45.49.11:

>>>> Ms. Pac-man would never be satisfied by KC Munchkin... there's a
>>>> reason why that's his name.
>>>
>>> To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you
>>> think KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>
>> I think KFC should bring back their smoked BBQ wings, if that's
>> what you mean.
>>
>>
>>
>
> I'll tell you what, I don't eat there often, but KFC freakin' rules.
> Their popcorn chicken is teh leet snack food.

I've had mixed experiences with KFC... recently, I got hooked on
Chick-Fil-A, so that's where I go for my chikkin' fix now.



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"Aaron J. Bossig" <linkvb06@SpammersWillBeExecuted.ptd.net> wrote in
news:Xns96CFEB21197AAlinkvb06SpammersWill@204.186.200.105:

> Chuck Whitby <chuck@toomanygames.com> wrote in
> news:Xns96CFE96B88914chucktoomanygamescom@199.45.49.11:
>
>>>>> Ms. Pac-man would never be satisfied by KC Munchkin... there's a
>>>>> reason why that's his name.
>>>>
>>>> To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you
>>>> think KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>>
>>> I think KFC should bring back their smoked BBQ wings, if that's
>>> what you mean.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'll tell you what, I don't eat there often, but KFC freakin' rules.
>> Their popcorn chicken is teh leet snack food.
>
> I've had mixed experiences with KFC... recently, I got hooked on
> Chick-Fil-A, so that's where I go for my chikkin' fix now.
>
>
>

Mmm... Chick-Fil-A... expensive but well worth it. We have one in the
food court at the mall. I've started eating healthier again so I'm
eating at the salad place lately.

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Chuck Whitby <chuck@toomanygames.com> wrote in
news:Xns96CFEE3AA1DA1chucktoomanygamescom@199.45.49.11:

>>> I'll tell you what, I don't eat there often, but KFC freakin' rules.
>>> Their popcorn chicken is teh leet snack food.
>>
>> I've had mixed experiences with KFC... recently, I got hooked on
>> Chick-Fil-A, so that's where I go for my chikkin' fix now.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Mmm... Chick-Fil-A... expensive but well worth it. We have one in the
> food court at the mall. I've started eating healthier again so I'm
> eating at the salad place lately.
>

I just wish NEPA had Sonic Drive-Ins and White Castle. That's good
stuff.


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MrBiggles <mrbiggles909@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:Q5sVe.14510$ct5.14387@fed1read04:

> Chuck Whitby wrote:
>> jrleek@soda.csua.berkeley.edu (James Robert Leek) wrote in
>> news:dg508e$1h03 $1@agate.berkeley.edu:
>>
>>
>>>>To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you
>>>>think KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>>
>>> To me it looked more like he smoked pot laced with LSD.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Mmmm... pot laced with LSD...
>>
>> The stupid things I did when I was a stoner... 8*)
>
> Wow, I had you pegged for more of a nerdy guy. Did you have long hair
> and listen to Led Zeppelin as well?
>

I did have long hair until last Thursday. Was time for my bi-annual
haircut, now I'll go another 6 months without a haircut.

Never listened to Zeppelin, I'm more of a Floyd man. And trust me, I'm
no nerdy guy. 8*) Never seen pics of me, I take it?

http://toomanygames.com/images/chuck/4.jpg That's a cropped shot of me
at PhillyClassic a few years back.
http://toomanygames.com/images/chuck/5.jpg There's another at PC with me
playing Para Para Paradise on PS2.
http://toomanygames.com/images/chuck/6.jpg And there's me... judging by
the PS2 controller in my massive hands... I'm probably playing some sort
of Tekken... I don't think T4 was out on PS2 at that point, so probably
TTT.

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On 12 Sep 2005 19:56:10 -0700, "The Space Boss" <drsmith666@aol.com>
wrote:


>> >To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you think
>> >KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>
>>
>> Only about a million times over. While the O2 was very limited it
>> still had some of the most kick ass games of all time like KC, Pick Ax
>> Pete and UFO.
>
>Agreed but can you tell me sir, WHY is it that every O^2 game I can
>remember playing only gives you ONE LIFE????? Why is that? Why don't
>you get 3 KC Munchkins to start with???


AAAAMEEEN TO YOU BOTH!!! The O2/Videopac (I'm from Italy) was my first
programmable system, and to this day I still wonder why one life only.
When I eventually got an Atari VCS after the crash (I had sold my
Videopac to buy an Intellivision, and then later got a Colecovision;
the VCS came from a trade with a friend, after I had gotten sick of
playing the same Inty games over and over and I couldn't find any new
ones anymore...) I missed my Videopac and its superior games. Poorer
graphics, maybe (that's debatable), but still WAY better in terms of
playability, fun factor and overall appearance.

Fear not: back years ago I bought a complete in box O2 + tons of
games, and a few years back I found an elusive Videopac 7400 + some
fun + (7400 enhanced) games back on vacation in Italy.

Ciao,
Simone
 
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Chuck Whitby wrote:
> MrBiggles <mrbiggles909@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Q5sVe.14510$ct5.14387@fed1read04:
>
>
>>Chuck Whitby wrote:
>>
>>>jrleek@soda.csua.berkeley.edu (James Robert Leek) wrote in
>>>news:dg508e$1h03 $1@agate.berkeley.edu:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>To turn this into a somewhat meaningful on-topic thread, do you
>>>>>think KC Munchkin smokes Atari 2600 Pac Man?
>>>>
>>>> To me it looked more like he smoked pot laced with LSD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mmmm... pot laced with LSD...
>>>
>>>The stupid things I did when I was a stoner... 8*)
>>
>>Wow, I had you pegged for more of a nerdy guy. Did you have long hair
>>and listen to Led Zeppelin as well?
>>
>
>
> I did have long hair until last Thursday. Was time for my bi-annual
> haircut, now I'll go another 6 months without a haircut.
>
> Never listened to Zeppelin, I'm more of a Floyd man. And trust me, I'm
> no nerdy guy. 8*) Never seen pics of me, I take it?
>
> http://toomanygames.com/images/chuck/4.jpg That's a cropped shot of me
> at PhillyClassic a few years back.
> http://toomanygames.com/images/chuck/5.jpg There's another at PC with me
> playing Para Para Paradise on PS2.
> http://toomanygames.com/images/chuck/6.jpg And there's me... judging by
> the PS2 controller in my massive hands... I'm probably playing some sort
> of Tekken... I don't think T4 was out on PS2 at that point, so probably
> TTT.

Massive hands? Are you trying to tell us something???
 
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The Space Boss wrote:
> Turbo-Torch wrote:
>
>
>
>>I dunno. I've heard the rumors that it couldn't be programmed in due
>>to system constraints or the programmers (mainly one guy) didn't know
>>how to program in more lives.
>
>
> I've thought about this myself, but that would have been a real basic
> routine that ANY programmer would know how to do. Someone needs to
> track this guy down and make him accountable to answer for this.

About the only think I can think of would be memory concerns, but to
store a simple 4 value variable is trivial in terms of memory.
 
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In article <bkhci1l8asokqbo4o6tgvmhcbrg8dme1o9@4ax.com>,
Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Can't say I didn't like the one life, it made things more challenging
> and gave more replay value imo. Plus it just made it different than
> all the other systems. Another difference was the low scores where
> most items were worth 1 to 5 points. Good score on the O2 was 100
> points, other systems 100,000.

Then just write two or three zeros on a Post-It note and stick it on
your TV screen. When all scores are multiples of 100 anyhow, the extra
zeros are just there for looks.
 
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:40:31 -0500, Bruce Tomlin
<bruce#fanboy.net@127.0.0.1> wrote:

>In article <bkhci1l8asokqbo4o6tgvmhcbrg8dme1o9@4ax.com>,
> Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Can't say I didn't like the one life, it made things more challenging
>> and gave more replay value imo. Plus it just made it different than
>> all the other systems. Another difference was the low scores where
>> most items were worth 1 to 5 points. Good score on the O2 was 100
>> points, other systems 100,000.
>
>Then just write two or three zeros on a Post-It note and stick it on
>your TV screen. When all scores are multiples of 100 anyhow, the extra
>zeros are just there for looks.

Uh yeah, I think we all realize that. The point is it was just
something different compared to the other systems.
 
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On 12 Sep 2005 22:31:07 -0700, "The Space Boss" <drsmith666@aol.com>
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>> Fear not: back years ago I bought a complete in box O2 + tons of
>> games, and a few years back I found an elusive Videopac 7400 + some
>> fun + (7400 enhanced) games back on vacation in Italy.
>
>What is this and what makes it different from an O2?

Videopac 7400 = Odyssey 3, which was announced in the US, but never
released. It was on the other hand released in Europe. It could play
two type of games: Odyssey 2 games especially reprogrammed with
enhanced background graphics (Killer Bees, for example). These games
were compatible with O2/Videopac, but would only display the simple
graphics on the O2/Videopac. Then towards the end they came out with
7400 only games. I can only remember one from back then, Nordmen (or
something like that), which I haven't found yet. Any others?
Ciao,
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Bruce Tomlin wrote:
> In article <bkhci1l8asokqbo4o6tgvmhcbrg8dme1o9@4ax.com>,
> Turbo-Torch <vairxpert@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can't say I didn't like the one life, it made things more challenging
> > and gave more replay value imo. Plus it just made it different than
> > all the other systems. Another difference was the low scores where
> > most items were worth 1 to 5 points. Good score on the O2 was 100
> > points, other systems 100,000.
>
> Then just write two or three zeros on a Post-It note and stick it on
> your TV screen. When all scores are multiples of 100 anyhow, the extra
> zeros are just there for looks.

They didn't have post it's in the 80's.
 
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They showed screenshots of Pick Axe Pete for the Odyessy 3 in EGM.
 

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