GE WattStation to Simplify Electric Car Charging

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[citation][nom]weirdguy99[/nom]How long will it take to charge the average electric car though?It would be weird seeing tens of cars lined up charging for 10 hours.[/citation]
my thoughs exactly... how big are the service stations go to be? You will run out of electricity looking for a place to recharge.
 
While colored lights are all well and good, what is going to happen to the aging power infrastructure when everyone starts plugging in their cars all day long?
 
[citation][nom]mlopinto2k1[/nom]All I am saying is I don't think we need "charging stations" on street corners. Every single person, almost everywhere can have electricity in their homes. To ME, the idea behind "going green" means not having to rely on some BIG NAME COMPANY supplying the means to plug my car in. Charging a battery is not some super complex process that requires digital displays. It can be done easily at your home. But I also realize that long distance trips would not be feasible with a "charging station". So.. whatever. Just not on every damn street corner.[/citation]
What the heck? Standardization is all around you and is hardly 'the man' sticking it to you it part of a grand scheme to conquer the planet, put the tin foil hat away. Your 120V AC 60Hz (or whatever you have in your country) plug is standardized, your gas station nozzle is standardized (mostly to prevent people from putting diesel, which has a different standard, in their gasoline engines). Your light bulb has a standardized socket, your computer has IEEE standardized connectors. Not having a standard makes development a hell of a lot harder, and makes it significantly less convenient for end users. One of the biggest hurdles for alternative cars (aside from the whole gasoline being an extremely compact and light source of energy - which is the #1 issue) is the total lack of a standard for charging or even what the alternative power source will be.

Let's say you want to develop an electric car because a new magic battery has been developed that puts electric way ahead of the other technologies (fuel cell, L/CNG, hydrogen) and you want to sell it to the masses. Well, first problem, what voltage do you want to use and what's the amperage requirement? What's the standard voltage offered in the countries you want to sell to? What's the connector do you want to use? Flat blade, twist-lock, break away, some custom dealie? What charge time do you want? These are just a few of the dozens of questions you need to consider that can be dealt with rather easily by just having an industrial standard that you can build around as a starting point. Without a standard, it significant increases the risk you'll design your system around the wrong parameters and get screwed with additional redesign costs when a standard is finally chosen. That risk of not having a standard makes new technology business models less appealing to investors.

This is also not to mention other entrepreneurs who want to make money off selling charging station access to electric car drivers. Without a standard, what plugs do you put on your station, what voltage, what amperage? If Toyota uses plug A, Ford uses plug B, and GM uses plug C, what % of each type of plug do you make available? What does the long term trend look like its going towards? These uncertainties make securing capital considerably more difficult. I can only imagine how irked people who dropped 300$ on an HD-DVD (or Beta or mini-disc) let alone people who drop a couple million on the wrong charging station business.

It's a lot easier to design a car and an infrastructure if Bob's Charger Station 7000 is the standard that everyone uses. It then becomes Bob's responsibility to develop a standardized charger that converts each country's frequency and voltage into the standardized 87Hz 327V NEMA plug 47BN.525 that all the electric cars use.
 
omg i have never heard so much whiney b.s. about special plugs and batteries in my life. you guys must all be online gamers, they are the only other groupi get so much drama from about stupid little chit, you guys are worse then cheer leaders and the prom queens combined.

ok for all you 'stupid' people i'm going to provide the magic bullet to shut all of you up and give you a 3rd eye which hopefully increases your viewing capabilities.

these problems were already covered before any of you were born.
remember outlets with 2 plugs? then the 'special' 3 wire grounded plugs/outlets came about? well there's an 'ADAPTER' for that! miraculous right? but wait 'BOBs' there's more! i've got an 8 wire plug on my truck, and 3 trailers all with different plug connectors, 2 wire flat plug (running lights only), 4 wire flat plug ( running lights with stop and turn signals), 6 wire round plug(running lights stop/turn signals and power brakes >10k#'s), 8 wire round plugs are for higher power brakes
 
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electric forklifts have had a battery change out system in place for DECADES people, are you hiding under a rock or living in a cave still? even propane forklifts have had a tank change out system in place for decades, sheesh. it takes all of 30 seconds for me to change out a 4k'# battery with an electric pallet jack with a sciccor arm or a hydrualic ram. bring back attendants at stations and you can pay for it & be back on the road in 2 minutes or less, if you don't have to use the restroom. an automated drive thru would probably be more feasible after awhile as it will be able to match battery types/sizes/voltages much faster ( i can already do that just by loooking at it ). show this remarkable solution to automakers and watch their reps go redfaced and start fuming at the mouth. they will fire their engineers and replace them with more intelligent ones. europeans will probably argue this up and down and sling out multiple anti trust lawsuits, but in the end standardize your electric grib much like you're doing with the euro , and you guys can enjoy what we have had here in america for the last 100 or so years!

anybody still want to argue? good go grab a gun and point it at your temple, you are the weakest link
 
I like the idea of a simple remove and swap for a charged unit at a refueling station ... that idea is great.

Standardisation of battery packs is also a good idea.

Universal plug and charge is also important for home charging ... just like when you take your electric shaver overseas.

I wonder which oil company has the foresight to buy into the rechargeable battery market?

Chinese companies currently have been the only nation to gear up mining and processing of the rare earth elments too ...

 
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