GM Recalls 1.3 Million Cars, Bad Steering

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mikewong

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What's happened to the engineers? It seems they only want to get their salaries instead of giving us realiable products.
See what's happened to Toyota? And now GM? Before this: Nasa Discovery, Airbus 380, all the bugs with various softwares & drivers,...
 

eyemaster

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Even with the powersteering not working, you can still steer wherever you want, it'll just be a bit harder. Nothing to worry about here.
 

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I thought bad steering is what leads people into the parking lot of a GM/Chevrolet dealership. Did not realize that it was not common knowledge that it is a fault.
 

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[citation][nom]MustWarnOthers[/nom]Buy American!I find it absolutely hilarious that the same greedy American car companies, which have been raping the consumer with their ugly, monstrous, gas guzzling SUV's and Trucks (which cost a marginal amount more to produce, yet they charge a large percentage more) for the past 4 or 5 years, get bailed out by the american taxpayers then switch their lineup to match all the well selling foreign cars.Now they've got problems since they probably had to rush new design ideas out the door as fast as possible when the greed train came to a crashing halt (pun definitely intended).I like being an American, and having the freedoms that I do, but to blindly wave the American flag behind such a shitstorm of greed and irresponsibility makes me sad to be grouped in with such ignorance at times.[/citation]

Hah..... if you think Ford and GM make a ton of money off their cars then you need to look at Honda and the other Japanese car makers.

The costs to make a Civic by importing the parts to the US and putting it together here is roughly $3-$4k depending on the model. Then they sell for starting $16K. Thats about 5x. Ford and GM don't make 5x per car due to the unions.

As for the story, at least GM is doing something about it before it became a major media story. Toyota had plenty of time, complaints and warnings about their problem and they denied it until now.

Toyotas next problem will be the lawsuits for the people who got in a accident or were killed because of the acceleration problems.
 

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[citation][nom]amabhy[/nom]For a second, I thought I was on autoblog.Then I realized that toms just doesnt have any good stories anymore.[/citation]

I am truly sorry you're such a troll.
 

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[citation][nom]HavoCnMe[/nom]Use to work a GM dealership, it also applies to the HHR as well. Even thou they didn't state that. It's all the same parts. The power steering will go out on HHR's if you jump start them, blowing the fuse as a result, which is an easy fix, but none the less,just a pain in the ass. Oh the memories of a dealership.[/citation]

LOL i didn't think just changing a fuse would be that much of a pain in the ass. suck it up princess!!
 

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Its not as big a deal as the other recalls going around. I have a cobalt and it really doesnt need power steering anyway lol. The cobalts actualy use a different type of power steering. It uses alot of electrical parts. No fluid. Just electronic motors.
 

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[citation][nom]MustWarnOthers[/nom]Buy American!I find it absolutely hilarious that the same greedy American car companies, which have been raping the consumer with their ugly, monstrous, gas guzzling SUV's and Trucks (which cost a marginal amount more to produce, yet they charge a large percentage more) for the past 4 or 5 years, get bailed out by the american taxpayers then switch their lineup to match all the well selling foreign cars.Now they've got problems since they probably had to rush new design ideas out the door as fast as possible when the greed train came to a crashing halt (pun definitely intended).I like being an American, and having the freedoms that I do, but to blindly wave the American flag behind such a shitstorm of greed and irresponsibility makes me sad to be grouped in with such ignorance at times.[/citation]

You obviously dont have a family of 4+. Have you tried to cram 4 people and a small amount of thier belongings in a Civic or Prius for a three day trip? It is just not going to happen. I have nothing against foreign cars. I purchased my wife an 02 Nissan Xterra and I purchased a 02 Grand Am and a 69 Mustang Coupe. She still drives the Nissan however I was rear ended by an Accord last year. I have since then purchased a 09 Charger R/T. The problem is...i dont care how much milage I get. The Grand Am got 32 MPG, the Charger gets 27 MPG (YAY MDS...not that I give it a chance to work), and the Mustang gets 8 MPG (you want 600HP you get 8 MPG). Why do I not care? Because I can afford it. I like the big, monstrous, gas guzzlers. If I had really wanted one I would have purchased an F-650 for the hell of it. I really get tired of hearing people complain about something they don't own or would not purchase. I dont mind bailing out "American" companies. I personally have not found a reliable Honda, Toyota, or Nissan. They are just not rugged enough. I drive hard and need a car that can take the punishment. It seems that every time I get behind the wheel of one of a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda I break something on it. I was kicked out of the Nissan dealership when I broke a 370z on a test drive. Guess the SyncroRev Transmission wasn't all its "cracked" up to be. (Yes I broke the transmission)
 

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[citation][nom]datawrecker[/nom]You obviously dont have a family of 4+. Have you tried to cram 4 people and a small amount of thier belongings in a Civic or Prius for a three day trip? It is just not going to happen. I have nothing against foreign cars. I purchased my wife an 02 Nissan Xterra and I purchased a 02 Grand Am and a 69 Mustang Coupe. She still drives the Nissan however I was rear ended by an Accord last year. I have since then purchased a 09 Charger R/T. The problem is...i dont care how much milage I get. The Grand Am got 32 MPG, the Charger gets 27 MPG (YAY MDS...not that I give it a chance to work), and the Mustang gets 8 MPG (you want 600HP you get 8 MPG). Why do I not care? Because I can afford it. I like the big, monstrous, gas guzzlers. If I had really wanted one I would have purchased an F-650 for the hell of it. I really get tired of hearing people complain about something they don't own or would not purchase. I dont mind bailing out "American" companies. I personally have not found a reliable Honda, Toyota, or Nissan. They are just not rugged enough. I drive hard and need a car that can take the punishment. It seems that every time I get behind the wheel of one of a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda I break something on it. I was kicked out of the Nissan dealership when I broke a 370z on a test drive. Guess the SyncroRev Transmission wasn't all its "cracked" up to be. (Yes I broke the transmission)[/citation]

Then why do I see so many '81 (and older even) hondas and toyotas still on the road, and so many Fords on the side of the road taking the dirt nap? I have had two Hondas go 300k miles on the original engine, and my 4runner is at 160k with just oil changes.
 

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[citation][nom]datawrecker[/nom]You obviously dont have a family of 4+. Have you tried to cram 4 people and a small amount of thier belongings in a Civic or Prius for a three day trip? It is just not going to happen. I have nothing against foreign cars. I purchased my wife an 02 Nissan Xterra and I purchased a 02 Grand Am and a 69 Mustang Coupe. She still drives the Nissan however I was rear ended by an Accord last year. I have since then purchased a 09 Charger R/T. The problem is...i dont care how much milage I get. The Grand Am got 32 MPG, the Charger gets 27 MPG (YAY MDS...not that I give it a chance to work), and the Mustang gets 8 MPG (you want 600HP you get 8 MPG). Why do I not care? Because I can afford it. I like the big, monstrous, gas guzzlers. If I had really wanted one I would have purchased an F-650 for the hell of it. I really get tired of hearing people complain about something they don't own or would not purchase. I dont mind bailing out "American" companies. I personally have not found a reliable Honda, Toyota, or Nissan. They are just not rugged enough. I drive hard and need a car that can take the punishment. It seems that every time I get behind the wheel of one of a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda I break something on it. I was kicked out of the Nissan dealership when I broke a 370z on a test drive. Guess the SyncroRev Transmission wasn't all its "cracked" up to be. (Yes I broke the transmission)[/citation]

Basically what you just said is

"I'm irresponsible with my expensive possessions, and I have money to blow, so I don't really give a damn".

Nice. Remember that ignorance I mentioned? You are it.

I'm far from being a hippie, but your gas guzzling tendencies don't affect just you, smart guy. The more we gobble it up, the higher the demand, and on top of that the sleazy tactics of the oil speculators and their political cronies, and you've got gas prices which will always be, on average, on an incline.

I have 4 people in my family, and although we don't take family trips since my sister and I have since moved out onto our own, our family got along just fine on many a Christmas where the car was packed full of junk.

And that was an old 90-92 Accord, which was at the time, a tiny car.

The American car companies over the past few years have duped the public into thinking they need a ford explorer. Oh wait, that isn't big enough. You should probably get an Excursion. So on and so forth.

You don't mind bailing out American Companies?

You don't mind the fact that the companies pissed away everything they had, in the process of making as much money as possible for themselves and their shareholders, so that the Government could literally reach into your pocket, stealing from you, so that these companies could continue on? You really have to be pretty dumb to "Not mind" that.

 

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[citation][nom]yrmoma[/nom]Power steering is a luxury, not a necessity, as the representative stated. That being said, it's still a bad situation. However, I'd have my power steering pump go out every day rather than have the off chance of no brakes and/or a stuck accelerator.[/citation]Power steering uses a different rack then non-power steering setups. It is MUCH harder to steer a power rack than a non power rack.
 

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After our Fascist Socialist wannabe president Obama Hussein (who's birth certificate says born in Kenya) bailed out his buddies in the unions with taxpayer money then took over GM and Chrysler and made them Socialist companies I sold my Chrysler and bought a Honda. Government Motors and the UAW can both kiss my ass, never again. I will give my money to Japan or Germany before I give it to the UAW or the Socialist wannabe scumbags.
 

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I've got 80,000 on my 5 speed 2006 Civic LX coupe. Oil changes every 5k with synthetic and a good filter, and consistent cleanings of a reusable K&N Air Filter.

It hasn't needed a single repair. The only thing I've changed is wipers.

I still get 40mpg on the Highway for long trips, which is higher than what the EPA estimates the car.
 

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[citation][nom]Regulas[/nom]After our Fascist Socialist wannabe president Obama Hussein (who's birth certificate says born in Kenya) bailed out his buddies in the unions with taxpayer money then took over GM and Chrysler and made them Socialist companies I sold my Chrysler and bought a Honda. Government Motors and the UAW can both kiss my ass, never again. I will give my money to Japan or Germany before I give it to the UAW or the Socialist wannabe scumbags.[/citation]
1º If Obama is a "Fascist Socialist wannabe" than what do you call Bush?

2º "I will give my money to Japan or Germany before I give it to the UAW or the Socialist wannabe scumbags." Don´t know about Japan but German has a Social Wellfare that Obama (as almost all of the EU) is trying to aprove.
 

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[citation][nom]Regulas[/nom]After our Fascist Socialist wannabe president Obama Hussein (who's birth certificate says born in Kenya) bailed out his buddies in the unions with taxpayer money then took over GM and Chrysler and made them Socialist companies I sold my Chrysler and bought a Honda. Government Motors and the UAW can both kiss my ass, never again. I will give my money to Japan or Germany before I give it to the UAW or the Socialist wannabe scumbags.[/citation]

FOX much?
 

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BMW (German) has been having complaints now surfacing that cars are "rebooting" while driving. Guess most never filed anything since they get taken care of by the dealership, but now that there is awareness on reporting safety defects its showing up on the nhsta complaint records. I think no manafacturer will be left untouched after all of this. (or just the ones that can react/hide problems before investigation will get by)
 

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there you go everyone who was like "well I only buy American, so I'll never have these problems" with the toyota posts.

I told you so, though it should have gone without saying...

"oh, but but its not a serious as toyota's problem"

STFU!

 
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