GM Recalls 1.3 Million Cars, Bad Steering

[brendano257]

[citation][nom]datawrecker[/nom]You obviously dont have a family of 4+. Have you tried to cram 4 people and a small amount of thier belongings in a Civic or Prius for a three day trip? It is just not going to happen. I have nothing against foreign cars. I purchased my wife an 02 Nissan Xterra and I purchased a 02 Grand Am and a 69 Mustang Coupe. She still drives the Nissan however I was rear ended by an Accord last year. I have since then purchased a 09 Charger R/T. The problem is...i dont care how much milage I get. The Grand Am got 32 MPG, the Charger gets 27 MPG (YAY MDS...not that I give it a chance to work), and the Mustang gets 8 MPG (you want 600HP you get 8 MPG). Why do I not care? Because I can afford it. I like the big, monstrous, gas guzzlers. If I had really wanted one I would have purchased an F-650 for the hell of it. I really get tired of hearing people complain about something they don't own or would not purchase. I dont mind bailing out "American" companies. I personally have not found a reliable Honda, Toyota, or Nissan. They are just not rugged enough. I drive hard and need a car that can take the punishment. It seems that every time I get behind the wheel of one of a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda I break something on it. I was kicked out of the Nissan dealership when I broke a 370z on a test drive. Guess the SyncroRev Transmission wasn't all its "cracked" up to be. (Yes I broke the transmission)[/citation]

I'm sorry, but this is the wasteful and ignorant mindset that we Americans are stereotyped with. Some Americans are not set on having what they want, no matter what the cost. It's only the elite and the few stuck up people like you that make the rest of America look bad.

As for foreign cars I will say I've had a 2000 Hyundai Elantra for almost half a year, and it drives well for 225K miles on it, and only cost me 1200$ (first car at 16...), and accelerates fairly well. I don't know what you can do to break a transmission on it's first drive, but it's definitely not anything that would be called normal use. If you want to waste money and find a "tank" that you can wreck on, by all means go ahead. But your being ignorant and wasteful.

 

[applocalypse]

[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]Hah..... if you think Ford and GM make a ton of money off their cars then you need to look at Honda and the other Japanese car makers.The costs to make a Civic by importing the parts to the US and putting it together here is roughly $3-$4k depending on the model. Then they sell for starting $16K. Thats about 5x. Ford and GM don't make 5x per car due to the unions.As for the story, at least GM is doing something about it before it became a major media story. Toyota had plenty of time, complaints and warnings about their problem and they denied it until now.Toyotas next problem will be the lawsuits for the people who got in a accident or were killed because of the acceleration problems.[/citation]


Well, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. You do realize that companies like Honda are trying very hard to make the cars sold in North America be produced 100% in North America down to the last nut and bolt. I used to work for a plastics company where about 90% of the products we produced were for Honda automobiles, SUV's, Motorcycles, generators and lawn equipment.

They would come to inspect us all the time or bring designs for new parts on new models. They most certainly do not assemble a car for 3-4k here, and they do not import the parts here to assemble them unless they have no other choice. They actually could not understand why the American car companies would ever move production outside of the US and then import anything back into the country as the duties and tariffs that they would have to pay would make it impossible to sell even a compact car at anything resembling a low price.

Most other foreign car manufactures are doing the exact same thing. Even relatively small and new company like KIA is building plants and lining up production with American companies and will be making all their products for the US in the US in a few years. They have already started making their SUV's here.

 

[Guest]

Funny thing that hasn't been brought up is the supplier of the electric power steering system is Jtekt which last time I checked is 40% owned by TOYOTA.

 

[mayne92]

[citation][nom]MustWarnOthers[/nom]Basically what you just said is "I'm irresponsible with my expensive possessions, and I have money to blow, so I don't really give a damn".Nice. Remember that ignorance I mentioned? You are it.I'm far from being a hippie, but your gas guzzling tendencies don't affect just you, smart guy. The more we gobble it up, the higher the demand, and on top of that the sleazy tactics of the oil speculators and their political cronies, and you've got gas prices which will always be, on average, on an incline.I have 4 people in my family, and although we don't take family trips since my sister and I have since moved out onto our own, our family got along just fine on many a Christmas where the car was packed full of junk.And that was an old 90-92 Accord, which was at the time, a tiny car.The American car companies over the past few years have duped the public into thinking they need a ford explorer. Oh wait, that isn't big enough. You should probably get an Excursion. So on and so forth.You don't mind bailing out American Companies?You don't mind the fact that the companies pissed away everything they had, in the process of making as much money as possible for themselves and their shareholders, so that the Government could literally reach into your pocket, stealing from you, so that these companies could continue on? You really have to be pretty dumb to "Not mind" that.[/citation]
I'm American baby!...and bought me a Tahoe LTZ because GM told me to and I still manage to bring home just enough food from the dumpsters to feed my family! ~wink~

 

[mrmez]

Lol!
Reminds me of that movie Total Recall. Remember when Arnie is talking to his mate about the recall 'holidays'... his mate is like... "oh yeah, i remember the adverts... RECALL, RECALL, RECALL"

 

[bin1127]

if a car is designed for power steering it means the car will need power steering. A sudden change in steering force needed makes driving very dangerous especially to those who don't even know their cars uses something called power steering.

 

[jpsolo]

Anything produced by humans is subject to problems. Perfection in manufactured items is not possible. No matter who, where, or when a product is manufactured; defects will occur. The goal is to produce perfection but the reality is not even close.

 

[thejester420]

GM sucks, buy a Ford!

 

[eccentric909]

[citation][nom]Regulas[/nom]After our Fascist Socialist wannabe president Obama Hussein (who's birth certificate says born in Kenya) bailed out his buddies in the unions with taxpayer money then took over GM and Chrysler and made them Socialist companies I sold my Chrysler and bought a Honda. Government Motors and the UAW can both kiss my ass, never again. I will give my money to Japan or Germany before I give it to the UAW or the Socialist wannabe scumbags.[/citation]

You do know Bush was the one who started the auto maker bail-outs (first with $17.4 Billion), correct? Do you enjoy re-writing history? Not that Obama hasn't added insult to injury, but please, stop with the blind loyalty.

 

[Guest]

Hopefully GM will work their problems out this year, this is why Ford is the deal right now.

 

[knickle]

And in today's news (yes really).....

Nissan is recalling about 540,000 vehicles sold mainly in the U.S. to fix possible problems with brake pedals and fuel gauges.

It just goes to show you that every car company makes mistakes.

 

[datawrecker]

[citation][nom]festerovic[/nom]Then why do I see so many '81 (and older even) hondas and toyotas still on the road, and so many Fords on the side of the road taking the dirt nap? I have had two Hondas go 300k miles on the original engine, and my 4runner is at 160k with just oil changes.[/citation]

And? My 74 cadillac I had before my grand am had 294k miles on it before i bought it, all original parts. Only thing I had to do to it was basic maintenance. I have yet to see ANY fords taking dirt naps on the side of the road. My brothers 73 Chevy C-10 is still running on the original engine, 350k miles. My 02 grand am had 130k miles on it before it was rear-ended. Mileage on cars is irrelevant, any vehicle that has been taken care of properly can accumulate this kind of milage. So tell me, what's your point.