Help with gaming laptop

[Andrew_21]

I'm torn between three laptops I'll give you a few of the specs (it is for gaming).
Cpu 5700 256 ssd and gtx 960
Cpu 6700 no ssd gtx 960
Cpu 5700 no ssd gtx 965
My question is which am I going to be getting the most out of my games with. I didn't know if the slight increase of gpu would be the best option, the better cpu ddr4 and motherboard, or the ssd would make the biggest difference for gaming

 

[bootcher]

There is no real performance difference between the 5700 and the 6700 CPU, and also the difference between the GTX 960 and GTX 965 would not be noticed in real life performance. Their performance only differ by a few fps in games. So of those three laaptops I would pick the one with the SSD.

Assuming the OS comes preloaded on the SSD it saves you the hassle of reinstalling windows on a newly bought SSD for any of the other laptops.

 

[theyeti87]

Absolutely go withe the 5700, SSD, GTX960m

 

[jaguarskx]

Below is a link to some benchmark comparisons between the GTX 960m and 965m. Taking a quick glance at them it seems that at 1080p and high settings the difference in performance basically ranges between 3 FPS and 10 FPS. The exceptions are Civilization 5 where the GTX 965m gets about 16 FPS more and AC Unity where the GTX 965m gets about 11 FPS less than the GTX 960m.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.13849.0.html?type=&sort=&deskornote=0&or=0&search=&month=&benchmark_values=&gpubenchmarks=0&professional=0&archive=1&dx=0&multiplegpus=0&showClassDescription=0&itemselect_6150=6150&itemselect_6157=6157&condensed=0&showCount=0&showBars=0&showPercent=0&gameselect%5B%5D=336&gameselect%5B%5D=332&gameselect%5B%5D=334&gameselect%5B%5D=329&gameselect%5B%5D=324&gameselect%5B%5D=322&gameselect%5B%5D=316&gameselect%5B%5D=314&gameselect%5B%5D=312&gameselect%5B%5D=310&gameselect%5B%5D=308&gameselect%5B%5D=299&gameselect%5B%5D=297&gameselect%5B%5D=293&gameselect%5B%5D=279&gameselect%5B%5D=277&gameselect%5B%5D=263&gameselect%5B%5D=249&gameselect%5B%5D=225&gameselect%5B%5D=217&gameselect%5B%5D=214&gameselect%5B%5D=208&gameselect%5B%5D=204&gpu_fullname=1&codename=0&architecture=0&pixelshaders=0&vertexshaders=0&corespeed=0&shaderspeed=0&boostspeed=0&memoryspeed=0&memorybus=0&memorytype=0&directx=0&opengl=0&technology=0&daysold=0

You will not notice any difference between the 5th and 6th generation Intel CPUs when playing games because it is basically the GPU that will be the limiting factor.

Most laptops allow you to replace the HDD with a SSD that you can buy on your own at a later point in time. You can save a bit of money upfront while saving up money for a SSD. Also, laptops with SSDs will have lower capacity compared to HDDs so installing a SSD later means you can save up money for a larger capacity SSD.

That is what I plan on doing the next time I buy a laptop (maybe the new Dell XPS 15); I will buy it with the 1TB HDD and then save up money and replace it with a 1TD SSD. Hopefully by then the price of a 1TD SSD will drop below $300 when not on sale. Although a 2TB SSD would be better if it can physically fit in the laptop.

 

[bootcher]

Below is a link to some benchmark comparisons between the GTX 960m and 965m. Taking a quick glance at them it seems that at 1080p and high settings the difference in performance basically ranges between 3 FPS and 10 FPS. The exceptions are Civilization 5 where the GTX 965m gets about 16 FPS more and AC Unity where the GTX 965m gets about 11 FPS less than the GTX 960m.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphics-Cards.13849.0.html?type=&sort=&deskornote=0&or=0&search=&month=&benchmark_values=&gpubenchmarks=0&professional=0&archive=1&dx=0&multiplegpus=0&showClassDescription=0&itemselect_6150=6150&itemselect_6157=6157&condensed=0&showCount=0&showBars=0&showPercent=0&gameselect%5B%5D=336&gameselect%5B%5D=332&gameselect%5B%5D=334&gameselect%5B%5D=329&gameselect%5B%5D=324&gameselect%5B%5D=322&gameselect%5B%5D=316&gameselect%5B%5D=314&gameselect%5B%5D=312&gameselect%5B%5D=310&gameselect%5B%5D=308&gameselect%5B%5D=299&gameselect%5B%5D=297&gameselect%5B%5D=293&gameselect%5B%5D=279&gameselect%5B%5D=277&gameselect%5B%5D=263&gameselect%5B%5D=249&gameselect%5B%5D=225&gameselect%5B%5D=217&gameselect%5B%5D=214&gameselect%5B%5D=208&gameselect%5B%5D=204&gpu_fullname=1&codename=0&architecture=0&pixelshaders=0&vertexshaders=0&corespeed=0&shaderspeed=0&boostspeed=0&memoryspeed=0&memorybus=0&memorytype=0&directx=0&opengl=0&technology=0&daysold=0

You will not notice any difference between the 5th and 6th generation Intel CPUs when playing games because it is basically the GPU that will be the limiting factor.

Most laptops allow you to replace the HDD with a SSD that you can buy on your own at a later point in time. You can save a bit of money upfront while saving up money for a SSD. Also, laptops with SSDs will have lower capacity compared to HDDs so installing a SSD later means you can save up money for a larger capacity SSD.

That is what I plan on doing the next time I buy a laptop (maybe the new Dell XPS 15); I will buy it with the 1TB HDD and then save up money and replace it with a 1TD SSD. Hopefully by then the price of a 1TD SSD will drop below $300 when not on sale. Although a 2TB SSD would be better if it can physically fit in the laptop.

Most if not all gaming laptops allow the use of 2 or even more harddrives/ssd, and/or have 1 or more M.2 SSD slot available. So you will never have to replace a harddrive, simply add in a SSD, clone the OS to it and continue to use your harddrive for file storage. However, if the laptop only has 1 slot for a harddrive, I would not even consider it, replacing a harddrive with a SSD is a bit difficult if you can't connect both to your laptop at the same time to clone it. Also the terabyte SSD's are still expensive, the cheapest ones starting from $300. A decent solution for this is a hybrid drive, I beleive WD has some hybrid drives with a large SSD cache (80gb or larger), the cheaper ones only have 8gb of SSD cache.

 

[jaguarskx]

I will have no problems cloning a HDD to a SSD since I have a dock for that. But for those who do not have a dock, a USB-to-SATA adapter cable is only about $10 - $15.

Yeah, 1TB SSDs are rather expensive at over $300, it would be nice if they dropped below $300 without a sale. However, I am also considering the even more expensive 2TB SSDs. The new Dell XPS 15 already comes with a 1TB hybrid drive that has a 32GB internal SSD cache.