Homeland Security Wants More 'Naked Scanners'

[tsmatthx2]

whoa even better, just looked a bit closer ha, linear in freshman lol. Apparently things have changed a bit from old peoples math with slide rules lol. Considering linear requires calc1, 2, 3, which means you have no life and opted out earlier, which is sad, i'm guessing you dont socialize much? lol, because that accounts for 3 semesters, 1.5 years right there, which is tough to do somethin in less than a year, what requires 1.5-2 lol, unless you had a really nice advisor? haha, mine are kinda a holes so that could be the case lol, troll? lol I figured you for the veggie tales type lol

 

[tsmatthx2]

Also I'm pretty sure they don't let you take fluids freshman year either lol, so it must be the nice advisor thing haha

 

[tsmatthx2]

Im tryin to help ya out here lol, cause if you took all that math, surely the number crunching from before wouldn't be too hard lol, unless ofcourse your lookin at fake info, you didn't come up with, but from propaganda instead lol.

 

[svdb]

Do children also have to go through that scanner? I hope not.
If you, whoever you may be, individual or organization, take naked pictures of my children using any kind of device for any kind of reason, and regardless the quality of the pictures, I will sue you for child pornography.

 

[technogiant]

Well seeing as how the legislators are actually brining in these scans do you not think they may change the legislation relating to illegal pornography so as not to include these scans?
If anyone or a given group is excluded then the terrorists will just change their tactics...for example in this scenario strapping explosives to kids.

I really think the people who are complaining about their freedoms should look at the situation with a bit more clarity...it's not your government that you should be getting angry at but radical Islam...they are the cause of all this and you should not lose sight of that....I was watching the news earlier and the first 10 mins was totaly taken up by stories with some link to radical Islam....the attempted murder of the Danish cartoonist who made a cartoon depiction of Mohamed, followed by the proposed placing of these scanners at British airports, followed by news of problems in Yemen being caused by Islamic extremists who are now being supported by Islamic extremists from Sudan, followed by the death toll after a Taliban car bomb explosion in Northern Pakistan at a volleyball match.
Personaly I think the time has come for "Radical" action from the western world.

 

[svdb]

[citation][nom]technogiant[/nom]...I think the time has come for "Radical" action from the western world.[/citation]
Why the double quotes? How is "Radical" different from Radical? We've been radical already in the not too distant past and this situation is the result (you're either too young to know or you don't remember). Are you an extremist trying to fight extremists? Are you nostalgic of the Nixon era? Is McCarthy your hero? Perhaps you're wishing for a Soviet Union type of homeland security. One where _everyone_ is the enemy just to make sure we're not taking any chances. You're so close to justifying totalitarianism and you don't even know it.
"Radical" like what? Like bringing Bush in a court room because Bin Laden is family of his best friends? I don't think you want to be that Radical, do you? 😉

Consumer grade video cameras with infra-red capability were removed from the market because they allowed perverts to take shots of you "naked". This is the same issue here with these scanners. Find some other way to scan me and my family that doesn't involve us being seen naked in the most offending way!
Even dogs are more effective than those stupid and expensive scanners.

 

[technogiant]

I don't really understand your argument, you seem to associate the fact that you are being seen naked (sort of) with some kind of perverted voyeurism.
I pressume both you and your family go to the Doctor and allow the doctor to examine you naked if necessary, and why, because it is for your own good. Do you think the Doc is a pervert just dying to look at your bits?
Isn't this the same scenario with the scanners, it is for your own good/saftey, the people operating the system are trained professionals.
Why do you have this reaction that the sole reason for this is for some pervert to get their jollies from seeing some weird low res image of you and your family naked.
To be honest I find your reaction as perversely strange as you imply their behaviour would be.

I do agree however that it's important to assess how effective the measures are compared to cheaper options like as you mentioned dogs and just getting up close and personal with people is often more effective than these more remote so called sophistocated methods. But sorry this evaluation shouldn't take into account such childish sensitivities that you are expressing.

Now to explain the "Radical" bit....it might have escaped your notice but radical Islam has been waging war against the west for some time now, not just in the form of terrorism but also in the form of "mis information" in which every act of the west is twisted into some convoluted version of the truth designed to show the west in a bad light....the internet is full of completely un proven conspiracy theories on all matters in relation to the middle east.

Personally I believe and trust in the versions of events and motives as described by the leaders of our own culture and not those of radical Islam who's aim is to subvert and overthrow the west.
Perhaps you ought to re assess where your own allegences lie instead of spouting these nonsenses and undermining your own culture.

Just taking one incident which shows that Western politics is not to blame but that "radical" Islam is the problem.
The Danish cartoonist indident or for that matter Salmon Rushdie incident, just how are either of those related to Western politics, these are just two people using their right of freedom of expression, and look at the results rioting in the streets and attempted murders.
Infact these incidents make we question whether there is infact any distinction between so called "moderate" and "radical" Islam.
Were the thousands of muslims rioting in the streets even in the western coutries all "radical extremists"...No....they were so called "moderate" Islamics burning flags, attacking embassies and waving banners saying "death to the infidel"...We are the infidel!!!
So I'll stop using the term "Radical" Islam.
Islam as a religion has proven itself to be intolerant of others outside its faith oppressive of those within its faith and violent to those who cross its path...in my opinion it has no place in western democratric countries and should be outlawed.
Switzerland was the start of this with the banning of minurettes on mosc's and because of the actions of muslims this will soon be followed by the wide spread banning of this religion.

That was the "Radical" action to which I refered and believe the Western world should take.

 

[svdb]

You've probably never lived among muslims = you don't know what you're talking about. I lived in France for 6 years and surely met more muslims than you. So you believe the Muslim religion is bad in itself? Have you forgotten the damage the Christians crusades did? So if you're Christian I should call you a terrorist in regards to the history of your religion.

Muslim extremists are a minority who manipulate the masses. That's what's giving you that impression that every muslim is an extremist. You watch too much American tv and it really looks like you believe everything Fox News and CNN want you to believe.

The US is already a carceral regime, if you want to make it a totalitarian regime on top of that, I'll start burning flags too even though I'm not religious at all. What are you going to call me then? A radical atheist? 😉

Go travel the world a little, educate yourself and pull yourself out of that egocentric superficial self important but scared American imperialist stereotype.

Switzerland is full of neo-nazis and racists. They elected a nazi-loving politician who came close to run the country if he hadn't killed himself while driving at 130mph. You should be careful of what references you take.

As for the "democratic" reference you ought to be careful too: a country where people's votes are removed because they're Black and where a president gets "elected" by his friends in a court room is not a democracy.

Goodbye and good luck.

 

[Guest]

Install them.
If we can make it nearly impossible for anyone to sneak weapons onto a plane with see through clothes tech, then we can relax a bunch of other rules that are more intrusive but done behind the scenes.

 

[Guest]

It may be not be a right to fly on an airplane. However, there is no other choice in airports. There should airports that do not scan. Let capitalism, Darwinism, or the Homeland color system determine the best way to fly. Let people decide on how much security they need.

 

[tommysch]

This is giving the real terrorist a win. It cost money, cause delays and prevent close to nothing. I say let them blow a plane or two. Theyll grow tired of it soon enough.

Homeland security is like a big fat money hole.

This is so ridiculous its not even funny anymore...

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]svdb[/nom]Why the double quotes? How is "Radical" different from Radical? We've been radical already in the not too distant past and this situation is the result (you're either too young to know or you don't remember). Are you an extremist trying to fight extremists? Are you nostalgic of the Nixon era? Is McCarthy your hero? Perhaps you're wishing for a Soviet Union type of homeland security. One where _everyone_ is the enemy just to make sure we're not taking any chances. You're so close to justifying totalitarianism and you don't even know it."Radical" like what? Like bringing Bush in a court room because Bin Laden is family of his best friends? I don't think you want to be that Radical, do you? Consumer grade video cameras with infra-red capability were removed from the market because they allowed perverts to take shots of you "naked". This is the same issue here with these scanners. Find some other way to scan me and my family that doesn't involve us being seen naked in the most offending way!Even dogs are more effective than those stupid and expensive scanners.[/citation]

Being radical means waging wars the good old fashion way, WW2 style. They have 2 choice, unconditional and total surrender or extermination.