HP vs ASUS vs MSI

[A_245]

I need to buy a laptop for programming and gaming use at the same time.

2 months ago I got HP Omen, but now I have a problem with it, a line appears on the screen and another problem with the brightness which is poor manufacturing, so I gonna send it back tomorrow. now I want to choose another laptop or get the same brand.

1. HP OMEN by HP 17-w213ng Gaming Notebook »
-Intel® Core ™ i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz, Windows 10 64 bit
-43.9 cm (17.3 ") anti-reflective UHD IPS UWVA display
-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 (8GB)
-16 GB DDR4 SDRAM memory, 1 TB SATA, 512 GB M.2 SSD
-G-sync technology, 3x USB 3.1, Mini DisplayPort

2. ASUS ROG G752VS (KBL) -BA337T Gaming Notebook »
-Intel Core i7 7700HQ 2.8 GHz, Windows 10
-43.9 cm (17.3 ") Full HD, 120 Hz
-Nvidia GTX 1070 graphics card with 8GB memory
-16 GB DDR4 memory, 1 TB HDD, 256 GB M.2 SSD
-120 Hz, G-sync, USB 3.1 connector

3. MSI 17.3 GT72VR 7RE-434DE (001785-434) »
-GT72VR Dominator Pro - with desktop graphics power
-43.9 cm (17.3 ") Anti-glare Full HD display
-Intel® Core ™ i7-7700HQ, Windows 10
-256GB M.2 SSD + 1TB hard drive, 16GB DDR4 RAM
-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 graphics with 8GB GDDR5

The laptop I liked hp especially it's ultra HD, and I don't mind to get another one if these problems don't happen often.
also, I would like to know from who have experience.

 

[YoAndy]

What are their prices?

 

[A_245]

What are their prices?

They all have the same price

 

[YoAndy]

What are their prices?

They all have the same price

Me personally I'll go for Asus or Dell Alienware

 

[sicily428]

msi gt72vr 7re (MXM gpu)
msi gt73vr 7re (OC CPU+MXM gpu)
http/www.hidevolution.com/msi-gt73vr-7re-titan-427.html
clevo p775dm3 It has a desktop cpu and a mxm gpu
http/www.hidevolution.com/evoc-clevo-p775dm3-g-custom-built-gaming-desktop-replacement-laptop.html
[video="https/www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG1tpirIGCw"][/video]
[video="https/www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YovjkS03UU"][/video]
i7-7700k needs to be delidded
[video="https/www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVV5AilVwTg"][/video]

 

[MeesterYellow]

I would go for MSI as their quality for gaming and programming is really good. I would stay away from Alienware as they're overpriced, faulty, and have bad customer support. Razer would also be good.

 

[YoAndy]

This are the Best gaming laptops of 2017 According to PC Magazine http/www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2020688,00.asp

 

[YoAndy]

I would go for MSI as their quality for gaming and programming is really good. I would stay away from Alienware as they're overpriced, faulty, and have bad customer support. Razer would also be good.

And that's where you are Wrong. According to Laptop Magazine(if u knew anything about laptops u should know these are the guys to talk to). New MSI's are known for 2 things really Noticeably loud fans, and bad tech support. https/www.laptopmag.com/articles/msi-brand-rating

Quote:MSI’s Main Weaknesses is Bad Tech support: When we called MSI for our Tech Support Showdown, representatives didn’t know their own software, and we never heard back when we asked questions on Facebook.
Needs more color: Most MSI laptops come in some variation of the color black (the gaming models add red stripes for flair), except for the silver PE60 Prestige.



You must be confused with another brand (if you think that Alienware are overpriced for what you get). "THIS IS THE BEST"
The Dell Alienware 17 R4 (2017) you get the:
7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK (Quad-Core, 8 threads, 8MB Cache, Overclocking up to 4.4GH)
16gb GDDR4 RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080
1.5 TB hd
Screen resolution of 2560 x 1440p, 17'' Inch
For only $1,279.00. (Starting) $2,253.99 (model above)
Now tell me how MSI compete with those prices? Oh they can't. You won't find a quality laptop with a GTX 1080 for less than that period.

Cheers!

 

[MasterChief86]

I need to buy a laptop for programming and gaming use at the same time.

2 months ago I got HP Omen, but now I have a problem with it, a line appears on the screen and another problem with the brightness which is poor manufacturing, so I gonna send it back tomorrow. now I want to choose another laptop or get the same brand.

1. HP OMEN by HP 17-w213ng Gaming Notebook »
-Intel® Core ™ i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz, Windows 10 64 bit
-43.9 cm (17.3 ") anti-reflective UHD IPS UWVA display
-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 (8GB)
-16 GB DDR4 SDRAM memory, 1 TB SATA, 512 GB M.2 SSD
-G-sync technology, 3x USB 3.1, Mini DisplayPort

2. ASUS ROG G752VS (KBL) -BA337T Gaming Notebook »
-Intel Core i7 7700HQ 2.8 GHz, Windows 10
-43.9 cm (17.3 ") Full HD, 120 Hz
-Nvidia GTX 1070 graphics card with 8GB memory
-16 GB DDR4 memory, 1 TB HDD, 256 GB M.2 SSD
-120 Hz, G-sync, USB 3.1 connector

3. MSI 17.3 GT72VR 7RE-434DE (001785-434) »
-GT72VR Dominator Pro - with desktop graphics power
-43.9 cm (17.3 ") Anti-glare Full HD display
-Intel® Core ™ i7-7700HQ, Windows 10
-256GB M.2 SSD + 1TB hard drive, 16GB DDR4 RAM
-NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1070 graphics with 8GB GDDR5

The laptop I liked hp especially it's ultra HD, and I don't mind to get another one if these problems don't happen often.
also, I would like to know from who have experience.

Assuming they're north of USD 1500, here are my two cents

you're forgetting a couple viable options, alienware and razer.

Alienware AW15R3-7001SLV-PUS in particular is under USD 1600 and packs i7-7700HQ (Quad-Core, 6MB Cache, up to 3.8GHz with 16GB RAM (8GB x2) DDR4 2133MHz along with NVIDIA Geforce GTX970M 3G GDDR5.

Beteen the options you're suggesting, I'd rather go with MSI than anything else since it's one of the more reliable options in terms of gaming of course.

 

[madmatt30]

The MSI is the worst specced one of the three.

 

[sicily428]

I would go for MSI as their quality for gaming and programming is really good. I would stay away from Alienware as they're overpriced, faulty, and have bad customer support. Razer would also be good.

And that's where you are Wrong. According to Laptop Magazine(if u knew anything about laptops u should know these are the guys to talk to). New MSI's are known for 2 things really Noticeably loud fans, and bad tech support. https/www.laptopmag.com/articles/msi-brand-rating

Quote:MSI’s Main Weaknesses is Bad Tech support: When we called MSI for our Tech Support Showdown, representatives didn’t know their own software, and we never heard back when we asked questions on Facebook.
Needs more color: Most MSI laptops come in some variation of the color black (the gaming models add red stripes for flair), except for the silver PE60 Prestige.



You must be confused with another brand (if you think that Alienware are overpriced for what you get). "THIS IS THE BEST"
The Dell Alienware 17 R4 (2017) you get the:
Intel Core i7-7820HK @2.9 ghz 4 core 8 threads.
16gb GDDR4 RAM
Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080
1.5 TB hd
Screen resolution of 2560 x 1440p, 17'' Inch
For only $1,279.00.
Now tell me how MSI compete with those prices? Oh they can't. You won't find a quality laptop with a GTX 1080 for less than that period.

Cheers!

$1,279.00? Where?

 

[YoAndy]

Dell.com http/www.dell.com/en-us/member/shop/productdetails/alienware-17-laptop

$1299.00- $2253.00 Last model the Intel Core i7 comes factory overclocked to 4.4ghz can't beat that.

 

[sicily428]

Dell.com http/www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-17

$1299.00- $2299.00 Last model the Intel Core i7 comes factory overclocked to 4.4ghz can't beat that.

ah ok 1299$ for a 1050ti

Alienwares are totally soldered laptops. No gpu upgrade. clevo p775dm3, with a desktop cpu and a mxm gpu, is better IMO

 

[YoAndy]

Dell.com http/www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-17

$1299.00- $2299.00 Last model the Intel Core i7 comes factory overclocked to 4.4ghz can't beat that.

ah ok 1299$ for a 1050ti

Alienwares are totally soldered laptops. No gpu upgrade. clevo p775dm3, with a desktop cpu and a mxm gpu, is better IMO

We are talking about price and for $2253.99 you get 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, Overclocking up to 4.4GHz ). 17.3 inch QHD (2560 x 1440) 120Hz TN AG 400-nits w/ NVIDIA G-SYNC, Enabled with Tobii Eye-tracking. NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 with 8GB GDDR5X - 180W.

:lol: is really easy to upgrade or replace a GPU on any Alienware Laptop it only takes 5 min . Now if you wan't us to teach you how to upgrade the GPU on a new alienware laptop here you go no soldering needed:https/www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh8ockwbDiE

 

[sicily428]

Dell.com http/www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/alienware-17

$1299.00- $2299.00 Last model the Intel Core i7 comes factory overclocked to 4.4ghz can't beat that.

ah ok 1299$ for a 1050ti

Alienwares are totally soldered laptops. No gpu upgrade. clevo p775dm3, with a desktop cpu and a mxm gpu, is better IMO

We are talking about price and for $2253.99 you get 7th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-7820HK (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, Overclocking up to 4.4GHz ). 17.3 inch QHD (2560 x 1440) 120Hz TN AG 400-nits w/ NVIDIA G-SYNC, Enabled with Tobii Eye-tracking. NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1080 with 8GB GDDR5X - 180W.

:lol: is really easy to upgrade or replace a GPU on any Alienware Laptop it only takes 5 min . Now if you wan't us to teach you how to upgrade the GPU on a new alienware laptop here you go no soldering needed:https/www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh8ockwbDiE

Nope! I know what I'm talking about!
new alienware are totally soldered (cpu/gpu). old alienware like m17x r3, m17x r4, m18x r2, 17 r1, 17 r5 have a mxm gpu. You need to use google better IMO
this could be useful for you
http/www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3429666/successful-mxm-gpu-upgraded-laptops.html

http/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r4-15r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/

 

[YoAndy]

Good try I don't use google that much.Almost Every tech guy knows Modern laptops have CPUs soldered into the motherboard. Most laptops allows you to upgrade RAM and the hard drive. However, many ultrabooks have RAM soldered into the motherboard and no RAM slot so RAM cannot be upgraded. High-end gaming laptops normally comes with PCIE GPU. Not integrated chipset. So their GPU can be upgraded just like the video on that link. Not enough time to argue nonsense.

 

[sicily428]

Good try I don't use google that much.Almost Every tech guy knows Modern laptops have CPUs soldered into the motherboard. Most laptops allows you to upgrade RAM and the hard drive. However, many ultrabooks have RAM soldered into the motherboard and no RAM slot so RAM cannot be upgraded. High-end gaming laptops normally comes with PCIE GPU. Not integrated chipset. So their GPU can be upgraded just like the video on that link.

You're giving incorrect informations
cpu and gpu are soldered
I posted you a review
http/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r4-15r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/

edit
these are laptops with a no-soldered cpu
Clevo w650kj1
clevo w650kk1
clevo p750dm2
clevo p775dm3
clevo p870dm2
clevo p870dm3
clevo p870km
clevo p870km1
msi 16L13

 

[YoAndy]

Good try I don't use google that much.Almost Every tech guy knows Modern laptops have CPUs soldered into the motherboard. Most laptops allows you to upgrade RAM and the hard drive. However, many ultrabooks have RAM soldered into the motherboard and no RAM slot so RAM cannot be upgraded. High-end gaming laptops normally comes with PCIE GPU. Not integrated chipset. So their GPU can be upgraded just like the video on that link.

You're giving incorrect informations
cpu and gpu are soldered
I posted you a review
http/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r4-15r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/

They are talking about the older model Alienware 17 R4.The new one is the alienware 17. in 99% of regular laptops today you can't install a GPU , so, no. you cant upgrade a GPU inside a laptop. And that includes Newer MSI laptops too

 

[sicily428]

Good try I don't use google that much.Almost Every tech guy knows Modern laptops have CPUs soldered into the motherboard. Most laptops allows you to upgrade RAM and the hard drive. However, many ultrabooks have RAM soldered into the motherboard and no RAM slot so RAM cannot be upgraded. High-end gaming laptops normally comes with PCIE GPU. Not integrated chipset. So their GPU can be upgraded just like the video on that link.

You're giving incorrect informations
cpu and gpu are soldered
I posted you a review
http/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/alienware-17r4-15r3-disassembly-repaste-guide-results.797373/

They are talking about the older model Alienware 17 R4.The new one is the alienware 17

Please stop giving incorrect infos
N17E-G2-A1 is a gtx1070 so that is a new alienware

here more infos about mxm gpus
http/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/mxm-gpu-resellers-in-the-world.804197/

 

[sicily428]

you can upgrade a mxm gpu.
please stop and read this

http/www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3429666/successful-mxm-gpu-upgraded-laptops.html

MSI Gt series have a MXM upgradable gpu

this is from a msi gt62vr 6rd
MSI Gtx1060 N17E-G1-A1

this is from a msi gt72vr 6re
MSI Gtx1070 N17E-G2-A1

this is from a msi gt73vr

MSI Gtx1080 N17E-G3-A1 type2

these are clevo cards