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that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who obviously
have to be missing on the forum. During tornadoes in Nashville, through the
9/11 attacks, people here have been aware of what's happening to others
around the nation and have responded with concern. Yet I find nothing here
and we know for a fact that there are those who may need help and not a
single note of concern.

If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to live
for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months), whilst
this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer my
home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
possibility. I don't know how anyone would get here, since I live just
outside of DC, but I have no doubts that people who are in such dire
straights cannot go about setting their lives straight without the
deliberate help of others to offer these people a place to start to recover.
It is impossible for anyone to get a job and start to try to recover from
such a tragedy in a shelter such as the Astrodome. It is impossible for
anyone to qualm the fears of their children without stability in their
surroundings. It will be impossible for the nightmares to end without each
and every one of us doing what we can do.

This is one of those times where a CD compilation won't do the job. No
money, however much it could possibly be, will accomplish the goals
necessary. We have to come to a much more human offering, that being a life
to those that now have nothing with which to call a life. I have no clue as
to how my wife and I could accomplish more than an offering of space to live
as limited as that would be, some level of identity for them, and a severly
restricted food supply (we'd have to have less, but they would have more),
but today I heard a woman calling from the Convention Center in N.O. and it
was her second time calling CNN. The first time there were 8 bodies in the
refrigerators. 4 hours later there were 12.

How can we help? Certainly money doesn't do the job, for there are no
places for these people to live, no jobs to go to, no abilities for them to
gain medical attention, and nothing to say that people care. The only
option would be to offer our help in the only way we can. Give people a
place to live so they can try to recover.

I know my wife will kill me for offering, although I see the horror in her
eyes. Then again it means room for one more. I'll be glad to give up my
studio for 18 months if that's what it takes.

Can anyone imagine what toll it would take if New York had to be evacuated?

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Well, I can't believe I've gotten only a couple of responses, mostly from
people that know me, but I'm now going to try to get in touch with
authorities to get a family here to offer them shelter. New Orleans is
going to burn to the waterline. My wife and I are going to step forward,
and I hope that some of you will follow suit.

I'll keep you appraised.

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SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
news:ca6dnWrC2fyNAIXeRVn-hg@rcn.net...
> that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who obviously
> have to be missing on the forum. During tornadoes in Nashville, through
the
> 9/11 attacks, people here have been aware of what's happening to others
> around the nation and have responded with concern. Yet I find nothing
here
> and we know for a fact that there are those who may need help and not a
> single note of concern.
>
> If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to live
> for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months), whilst
> this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer my
> home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
> possibility. I don't know how anyone would get here, since I live just
> outside of DC, but I have no doubts that people who are in such dire
> straights cannot go about setting their lives straight without the
> deliberate help of others to offer these people a place to start to
recover.
> It is impossible for anyone to get a job and start to try to recover from
> such a tragedy in a shelter such as the Astrodome. It is impossible for
> anyone to qualm the fears of their children without stability in their
> surroundings. It will be impossible for the nightmares to end without
each
> and every one of us doing what we can do.
>
> This is one of those times where a CD compilation won't do the job. No
> money, however much it could possibly be, will accomplish the goals
> necessary. We have to come to a much more human offering, that being a
life
> to those that now have nothing with which to call a life. I have no clue
as
> to how my wife and I could accomplish more than an offering of space to
live
> as limited as that would be, some level of identity for them, and a
severly
> restricted food supply (we'd have to have less, but they would have more),
> but today I heard a woman calling from the Convention Center in N.O. and
it
> was her second time calling CNN. The first time there were 8 bodies in
the
> refrigerators. 4 hours later there were 12.
>
> How can we help? Certainly money doesn't do the job, for there are no
> places for these people to live, no jobs to go to, no abilities for them
to
> gain medical attention, and nothing to say that people care. The only
> option would be to offer our help in the only way we can. Give people a
> place to live so they can try to recover.
>
> I know my wife will kill me for offering, although I see the horror in her
> eyes. Then again it means room for one more. I'll be glad to give up my
> studio for 18 months if that's what it takes.
>
> Can anyone imagine what toll it would take if New York had to be
evacuated?
>
> --
>
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
> http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
>
>
 
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I've not found a responsible agency that would put me into touch with anyone
that could use moving out of New Orleans. I find this stupidity. The city
is going to burn to the ground or at least to the water line. And there's
no response, no matter how I try, to come up with a contact to bring any
family up from New Orleans, nor anyone that wants to take responsibility for
accepting the help my wife and I have chosen to give. This is outlandish.
The President simply used the entire situation as a photo op. I am offering
a possible solution.

I am daunted by the impossibility to actually give help. But I will try
again. I'm going to try by starting to contact Greyhound to move families
to people interested in giving people homes for the short term, but more
importantly, getting them to commit to moving the people away from where
they are the most affected by what is happening to their city. After that,
I will start calling other businesses to see whether it's possible to move
people. It's a holiday weekend and this morning my local TV news broadcast
was talking about people going to the beaches. I doubt this is the case.
Who, in their right minds, could walk away from this problem without wanting
to help?

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SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
news:AK6dnZ2dnZ2cW8OznZ2dnSRXhd6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@rcn.net...
> Well, I can't believe I've gotten only a couple of responses, mostly from
> people that know me, but I'm now going to try to get in touch with
> authorities to get a family here to offer them shelter. New Orleans is
> going to burn to the waterline. My wife and I are going to step forward,
> and I hope that some of you will follow suit.
>
> I'll keep you appraised.
>
> --
>
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
> http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
>
> "Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
> news:ca6dnWrC2fyNAIXeRVn-hg@rcn.net...
> > that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who
obviously
> > have to be missing on the forum. During tornadoes in Nashville, through
> the
> > 9/11 attacks, people here have been aware of what's happening to others
> > around the nation and have responded with concern. Yet I find nothing
> here
> > and we know for a fact that there are those who may need help and not a
> > single note of concern.
> >
> > If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to
live
> > for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months),
whilst
> > this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer my
> > home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
> > possibility. I don't know how anyone would get here, since I live just
> > outside of DC, but I have no doubts that people who are in such dire
> > straights cannot go about setting their lives straight without the
> > deliberate help of others to offer these people a place to start to
> recover.
> > It is impossible for anyone to get a job and start to try to recover
from
> > such a tragedy in a shelter such as the Astrodome. It is impossible for
> > anyone to qualm the fears of their children without stability in their
> > surroundings. It will be impossible for the nightmares to end without
> each
> > and every one of us doing what we can do.
> >
> > This is one of those times where a CD compilation won't do the job. No
> > money, however much it could possibly be, will accomplish the goals
> > necessary. We have to come to a much more human offering, that being a
> life
> > to those that now have nothing with which to call a life. I have no
clue
> as
> > to how my wife and I could accomplish more than an offering of space to
> live
> > as limited as that would be, some level of identity for them, and a
> severly
> > restricted food supply (we'd have to have less, but they would have
more),
> > but today I heard a woman calling from the Convention Center in N.O. and
> it
> > was her second time calling CNN. The first time there were 8 bodies in
> the
> > refrigerators. 4 hours later there were 12.
> >
> > How can we help? Certainly money doesn't do the job, for there are no
> > places for these people to live, no jobs to go to, no abilities for them
> to
> > gain medical attention, and nothing to say that people care. The only
> > option would be to offer our help in the only way we can. Give people a
> > place to live so they can try to recover.
> >
> > I know my wife will kill me for offering, although I see the horror in
her
> > eyes. Then again it means room for one more. I'll be glad to give up
my
> > studio for 18 months if that's what it takes.
> >
> > Can anyone imagine what toll it would take if New York had to be
> evacuated?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Roger W. Norman
> > SirMusic Studio
> > http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
> >
> >
>
>
 
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Well, you can't get there from here. There are no responsible agencies that
take calls, no places to call other than if you have relatives, and no way
to try to offer help on a personal basis.

Now I recognize that a lot is going on, but there should always be an avenue
of communications that allows the individual to help, even if it takes
deliving into the most basic layers of a website, but even with direct calls
to FEMA and other bodies, no one wants to allow for the possibility that the
average American can help. This is stupidity in it's purest form. After
some 2 hours of trying to work the phones, calling everyone I can get a hold
of, I have nothing. It's not possible for the average American to help.

I realize that the time frames of my posts don't support the 2 hours of
effort, but believe me, I've spent a lot more time than two hours. By the
time any of us can get to help these people they will be beyond help. At
that point it doesn't make any difference whether you and I are willing to
provide homes. It becomes a moot point. Seems the federal government
thinks they have it all under contoll. I can't even get in touch with the
Govenor of Louisiana nor any of her cohorts. Not saying that any of her
cohorts should be answering the calls, but at least they should be answering
the questions if it means even on family saved.

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"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
news:dLqdnQH-NdOCUoXeRVn-rg@rcn.net...
> I've not found a responsible agency that would put me into touch with
anyone
> that could use moving out of New Orleans. I find this stupidity. The
city
> is going to burn to the ground or at least to the water line. And there's
> no response, no matter how I try, to come up with a contact to bring any
> family up from New Orleans, nor anyone that wants to take responsibility
for
> accepting the help my wife and I have chosen to give. This is outlandish.
> The President simply used the entire situation as a photo op. I am
offering
> a possible solution.
>
> I am daunted by the impossibility to actually give help. But I will try
> again. I'm going to try by starting to contact Greyhound to move families
> to people interested in giving people homes for the short term, but more
> importantly, getting them to commit to moving the people away from where
> they are the most affected by what is happening to their city. After
that,
> I will start calling other businesses to see whether it's possible to move
> people. It's a holiday weekend and this morning my local TV news
broadcast
> was talking about people going to the beaches. I doubt this is the case.
> Who, in their right minds, could walk away from this problem without
wanting
> to help?
>
> --
>
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
> http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
>
> "Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
> news:AK6dnZ2dnZ2cW8OznZ2dnSRXhd6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0@rcn.net...
> > Well, I can't believe I've gotten only a couple of responses, mostly
from
> > people that know me, but I'm now going to try to get in touch with
> > authorities to get a family here to offer them shelter. New Orleans is
> > going to burn to the waterline. My wife and I are going to step
forward,
> > and I hope that some of you will follow suit.
> >
> > I'll keep you appraised.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Roger W. Norman
> > SirMusic Studio
> > http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
> >
> > "Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
> > news:ca6dnWrC2fyNAIXeRVn-hg@rcn.net...
> > > that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who
> obviously
> > > have to be missing on the forum. During tornadoes in Nashville,
through
> > the
> > > 9/11 attacks, people here have been aware of what's happening to
others
> > > around the nation and have responded with concern. Yet I find nothing
> > here
> > > and we know for a fact that there are those who may need help and not
a
> > > single note of concern.
> > >
> > > If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to
> live
> > > for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months),
> whilst
> > > this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer
my
> > > home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
> > > possibility. I don't know how anyone would get here, since I live
just
> > > outside of DC, but I have no doubts that people who are in such dire
> > > straights cannot go about setting their lives straight without the
> > > deliberate help of others to offer these people a place to start to
> > recover.
> > > It is impossible for anyone to get a job and start to try to recover
> from
> > > such a tragedy in a shelter such as the Astrodome. It is impossible
for
> > > anyone to qualm the fears of their children without stability in their
> > > surroundings. It will be impossible for the nightmares to end without
> > each
> > > and every one of us doing what we can do.
> > >
> > > This is one of those times where a CD compilation won't do the job.
No
> > > money, however much it could possibly be, will accomplish the goals
> > > necessary. We have to come to a much more human offering, that being
a
> > life
> > > to those that now have nothing with which to call a life. I have no
> clue
> > as
> > > to how my wife and I could accomplish more than an offering of space
to
> > live
> > > as limited as that would be, some level of identity for them, and a
> > severly
> > > restricted food supply (we'd have to have less, but they would have
> more),
> > > but today I heard a woman calling from the Convention Center in N.O.
and
> > it
> > > was her second time calling CNN. The first time there were 8 bodies
in
> > the
> > > refrigerators. 4 hours later there were 12.
> > >
> > > How can we help? Certainly money doesn't do the job, for there are no
> > > places for these people to live, no jobs to go to, no abilities for
them
> > to
> > > gain medical attention, and nothing to say that people care. The only
> > > option would be to offer our help in the only way we can. Give people
a
> > > place to live so they can try to recover.
> > >
> > > I know my wife will kill me for offering, although I see the horror in
> her
> > > eyes. Then again it means room for one more. I'll be glad to give up
> my
> > > studio for 18 months if that's what it takes.
> > >
> > > Can anyone imagine what toll it would take if New York had to be
> > evacuated?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > Roger W. Norman
> > > SirMusic Studio
> > > http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
 
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On 9/2/05 2:42 PM, in article ca6dnWrC2fyNAIXeRVn-hg@rcn.net, "Roger W.
Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote:
AND BEARS REPEATING:
>
> If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to live
> for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months), whilst
> this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer my
> home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
> possibility. I don't know how anyone would get here, since I live just
> outside of DC, but I have no doubts that people who are in such dire
> straights cannot go about setting their lives straight without the
> deliberate help of others to offer these people a place to start to recover.
> It is impossible for anyone to get a job and start to try to recover from
> such a tragedy in a shelter such as the Astrodome. It is impossible for
> anyone to qualm the fears of their children without stability in their
> surroundings. It will be impossible for the nightmares to end without each
> and every one of us doing what we can do.
>
> This is one of those times where a CD compilation won't do the job. No
> money, however much it could possibly be, will accomplish the goals
> necessary. We have to come to a much more human offering, that being a life
> to those that now have nothing with which to call a life. I have no clue as
> to how my wife and I could accomplish more than an offering of space to live
> as limited as that would be, some level of identity for them, and a severly
> restricted food supply (we'd have to have less, but they would have more),
> but today I heard a woman calling from the Convention Center in N.O. and it
> was her second time calling CNN. The first time there were 8 bodies in the
> refrigerators. 4 hours later there were 12.
>
> How can we help? Certainly money doesn't do the job, for there are no
> places for these people to live, no jobs to go to, no abilities for them to
> gain medical attention, and nothing to say that people care. The only
> option would be to offer our help in the only way we can. Give people a
> place to live so they can try to recover

> that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who obviously
> have to be missing on the forum. During tornadoes in Nashville, through the
> 9/11 attacks, people here have been aware of what's happening to others
> around the nation and have responded with concern. Yet I find nothing here
> and we know for a fact that there are those who may need help and not a
> single note of concern.

There has been such over on the AMPEX BACKROOM list, as there has been on
The movie production NG (to the amusing consternation of at least one member
who complained that the posts of a poster on the ground there were annoying
and irreleveant... He was shouted down nicely!)
This is hardly the primarily barlike, adult, human and civil forum it once
was and it doesn;t surprise me.


> I know my wife will kill me for offering, although I see the horror in her
> eyes. Then again it means room for one more. I'll be glad to give up my
> studio for 18 months if that's what it takes.
>
> Can anyone imagine what toll it would take if New York had to be evacuated?
>
> --
>
>
> Roger W. Norman
> SirMusic Studio
> http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
>
>
 
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> This is hardly the primarily barlike, adult, human and civil forum it once
> was and it doesn;t surprise me.

It infuriates me. What mic should I use to grab the last gasp of life from
the stricken in New Orleans? Or the wail of a 3 year old that hasn't been
fed or given a drink of water in 5 days? Certainly the frequency
requirements suggest that a number of alternatives be considered. Or should
I suggest that the frequency of requirements for support on the American
homefront should have a number of alternatives be considered. Or perhaps
should we even be allowing a $250 Million dollar bridge project in Alaska to
an island of 50 people be part of the pork barrel Transportation bill since
ONE THIRD of that figure would have shored up the levees in and around New
Orleans so that it would have taken a Category 5+ hurricane to do what a
Category 3 (on the western side of the hurricane) did.

So why are there no alternatives considered in how to help these people
recover their lives if mic considerations are appropriate in just the
capturing of sound? Because, perhaps, this President and his official
honchos don't have a clue of what these people's lives were like in the
first place or don't really care? Or is it that the same type of mic is
always in front of their faces because they decide they want to say
something? The SNR of photo ops/news conferences to the dead/dying is
overwhelming. Regardless of whether anyone thinks me a whimp, I cry at
least a couple of times a day when I think of just how bad this is; the loss
of a city renowned for entertainment and what could have been saved had any
of the Administration paid attention to just the possibility of a disaster
waiting to happen on American soil, much less listened to the Army Corps of
Engineers.

I said this on my blog, but since a lot of you don't pay attention (which is
fine) then I'm going to say it now. In the past year the Army Corps of
Engineers stated that the levees have SUNK 4 feet. By my miniscule math
abilities that puts it over 1 foot for every one hundred days during the
last year. It's impossible to NOT notice such a decline in the one level of
protection that New Orleans had over holding the water at bay.

An interesting aside is, here in the DC area, my wife just passed a gas
station with lines up to one mile long. So much for the ability to trust
this Administration and their ability to actually do the business of
government.

Rest gently, America. You won't get a chance soon.

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SirMusic Studio
http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/

"SSJVCmag" <ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com> wrote in message
news:BF3E1CD4.10430%ten@nozirev.gamnocssj.com...
> On 9/2/05 2:42 PM, in article ca6dnWrC2fyNAIXeRVn-hg@rcn.net, "Roger W.
> Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote:
> AND BEARS REPEATING:
> >
> > If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to
live
> > for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months),
whilst
> > this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer my
> > home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
> > possibility. I don't know how anyone would get here, since I live just
> > outside of DC, but I have no doubts that people who are in such dire
> > straights cannot go about setting their lives straight without the
> > deliberate help of others to offer these people a place to start to
recover.
> > It is impossible for anyone to get a job and start to try to recover
from
> > such a tragedy in a shelter such as the Astrodome. It is impossible for
> > anyone to qualm the fears of their children without stability in their
> > surroundings. It will be impossible for the nightmares to end without
each
> > and every one of us doing what we can do.
> >
> > This is one of those times where a CD compilation won't do the job. No
> > money, however much it could possibly be, will accomplish the goals
> > necessary. We have to come to a much more human offering, that being a
life
> > to those that now have nothing with which to call a life. I have no
clue as
> > to how my wife and I could accomplish more than an offering of space to
live
> > as limited as that would be, some level of identity for them, and a
severly
> > restricted food supply (we'd have to have less, but they would have
more),
> > but today I heard a woman calling from the Convention Center in N.O. and
it
> > was her second time calling CNN. The first time there were 8 bodies in
the
> > refrigerators. 4 hours later there were 12.
> >
> > How can we help? Certainly money doesn't do the job, for there are no
> > places for these people to live, no jobs to go to, no abilities for them
to
> > gain medical attention, and nothing to say that people care. The only
> > option would be to offer our help in the only way we can. Give people a
> > place to live so they can try to recover
>
> > that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who
obviously
> > have to be missing on the forum. During tornadoes in Nashville, through
the
> > 9/11 attacks, people here have been aware of what's happening to others
> > around the nation and have responded with concern. Yet I find nothing
here
> > and we know for a fact that there are those who may need help and not a
> > single note of concern.
>
> There has been such over on the AMPEX BACKROOM list, as there has been on
> The movie production NG (to the amusing consternation of at least one
member
> who complained that the posts of a poster on the ground there were
annoying
> and irreleveant... He was shouted down nicely!)
> This is hardly the primarily barlike, adult, human and civil forum it once
> was and it doesn;t surprise me.
>
>
> > I know my wife will kill me for offering, although I see the horror in
her
> > eyes. Then again it means room for one more. I'll be glad to give up
my
> > studio for 18 months if that's what it takes.
> >
> > Can anyone imagine what toll it would take if New York had to be
evacuated?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Roger W. Norman
> > SirMusic Studio
> > http://blogs.salon.com/0004478/
> >
> >
>
 
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"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message...

> that no one has questions about our compadres in New Orleans who obviously
> have to be missing on the forum.

I sent mail to Richard Webb and Jeannie Perkins... got an answer from Jean,
she is fine - lost only the things that were at her work place and a car left
in remote parking for mass transit... house came through fine. Nothing yet
from 'El-Spider'. I don't know anyone else who was for sure there.

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Jona Vark wrote:
> yeah.. blame this president you think is an idiot for everything under the
> sun.
>
> At least you're doing your part.
>
> Of course, he'll have to take credit for every sunny day also.

Get lost fool..... You're the last person on earth to see that Bush
provided no leadership whatsoever in the greatest natural disaster in
American History..... And he will continue failing through the rest of
this disaster. God help us.

Google these words .... "miserable failure".... and George Bush comes
up..... The dictionary has his photo next the same words.



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You mean that? I didn't find anything under that with google.

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> See "Typical Fighting and Blaming!" for a link to help with housing.
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Roger W. Norman wrote:

> If anyone knows of any of our RAP contributors that needs a place to live
> for the next four months or whatever (my true guess is 18 months), whilst
> this nation works towards some solution to this problem, I volunteer my
> home, even at the expense of my wife becoming incensed about the
> possibility.

Not to in any way detract from your kind offer, Roger, but
what is needed right now is people everywhere being able and
willing to do this without regard to common interest or
commonality of any kind. The states which border this
catastrophe are simply not going to be able to do the job.
From the numbers of refugees that I've heard, people all
over this country are going to have to open their homes, or
even make their garages habitable and available, to solve
the problem. How people _with_ can be matched with people
_without_ is a problem that puzzles me, though.

This is the first time in a long time that I've regreted my
minimization of requirements (and income) to the least space
and facility I can reasonably get by with.


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"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
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> Well, you can't get there from here. There are no responsible agencies
that
> take calls, no places to call other than if you have relatives, and no way
> to try to offer help on a personal basis.
>

TRY SENDING CASH.

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Obviously you didn't understand the idea that cash was not a solution to a
problem. Perhaps you believe spending money on a problem you don't
understand should produce more reasonable results? Like if your recording
isn't good enough moving to 24/96 is the answer? Correct me if I'm wrong,
but cash doesn't get to the people, and everything I've said about getting a
job, the length of the problem, and working on how children perceive what's
happening didn't touch you.

I guess this proves that idiots are born every minute. I just didn't expect
to get one.

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> "Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
> news:lKadnXm3INyhSIXeRVn-rg@rcn.net...
> > Well, you can't get there from here. There are no responsible agencies
> that
> > take calls, no places to call other than if you have relatives, and no
way
> > to try to offer help on a personal basis.
> >
>
> TRY SENDING CASH.
>
> :|
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>
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:50:39 GMT, "Jona Vark" <noemail@all.com> wrote:

>
>"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
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>> Well, you can't get there from here. There are no responsible agencies
>that
>> take calls, no places to call other than if you have relatives, and no way
>> to try to offer help on a personal basis.
>>
>
>TRY SENDING CASH.
>
>:|
>
>
I'm not all that comfortable with just sending cash. I also feel
compelled to find a way to go down there and help out in some
constructive way. I'm way up here in canada and I'd be willing to
shelter people if need be.
 
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:10:46 +0200, Roger W. Norman wrote:

>> This is hardly the primarily barlike, adult, human and civil forum it
>> once was and it doesn;t surprise me.
>
> It infuriates me. What mic should I use to grab the last gasp of life
> from the stricken in New Orleans? Or the wail of a 3 year old that
> hasn't been fed or given a drink of water in 5 days?

There is not much we can do from the netherlands, but some specialists are
underway to help with reconstruction of infrastructure. Here we do have a lot
of experience with living below sealevel. I live about 5m below sealevel.

To say it mildly, I do not understand there are quite a lot of reporters
present, but after all these days even hospitals are without water, food
and other supplies as even insuline. It was clear for some time a disaster
was going to happen and about a week ago it was clear a real big disaster
was heading to this area. Organisation of help should have started when
evacuation of 1.5 million started.

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It's the unfortunate process of pork barrel politics rather than actually
taking care of the nation's and the people's business. This is why we are
susceptible to terrorist attacks and have a government that supposes it can
do something with a "war" on terror rather than treating it as a law
enforcement problem.

In other words, it's what the officials want to see it as, rather than being
seen for what it is.

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"Chel van Gennip" <chel@vangennip.nl> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:10:46 +0200, Roger W. Norman wrote:
>
> >> This is hardly the primarily barlike, adult, human and civil forum it
> >> once was and it doesn;t surprise me.
> >
> > It infuriates me. What mic should I use to grab the last gasp of life
> > from the stricken in New Orleans? Or the wail of a 3 year old that
> > hasn't been fed or given a drink of water in 5 days?
>
> There is not much we can do from the netherlands, but some specialists are
> underway to help with reconstruction of infrastructure. Here we do have a
lot
> of experience with living below sealevel. I live about 5m below sealevel.
>
> To say it mildly, I do not understand there are quite a lot of reporters
> present, but after all these days even hospitals are without water, food
> and other supplies as even insuline. It was clear for some time a disaster
> was going to happen and about a week ago it was clear a real big disaster
> was heading to this area. Organisation of help should have started when
> evacuation of 1.5 million started.
>
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> Visit Serg van Gennip's site http://www.serg.vangennip.com
 
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"Roger W. Norman" <Roger@SirMusicStudio.com> wrote in message
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> It's the unfortunate process of pork barrel politics rather than actually
> taking care of the nation's and the people's business. This is why we are
> susceptible to terrorist attacks and have a government that supposes it
> can
> do something with a "war" on terror rather than treating it as a law
> enforcement problem.
>
> In other words, it's what the officials want to see it as, rather than
> being
> seen for what it is.
>
> --

I woke up this morning thinking "it is day five (four?) and in Southeast
Asia, by now we had tent cities going up". Here, we have an administration
treating it as if it is still a temporary, short term problem. Let's face
it folks, these New Orleans people have lost their homes -- a half-million
of them -- most forever (think of the health problem when they finally get
there homes drained after two - three months of soaking - they simply won't
be habitable.). Many will have no jobs. Right now many are dying, but even
if they are relocated to stadiums, what are they to do? They need some
privacy, food, a place to bathe, schools for their kids, places to file
paperwork. They need tent cities and schools and hospitals. But the
administration has shown little evidence that it has even begun to think
that way. We have a major refugee problem on our hands that is going to
last years.

Perhaps the two ex-Presidents will be able to see more clearly than the
current inhabitant.

He was on the news today, telling the victims "I'm satisfied with the
actions we are taking, although I am not happy about the results to date".
What bullshit. Just what they wanted to hear! If he had any courage, he'd
have taken a half dozen secret servicemen, left Karl Rove behind (who staged
the incident with the weeping mothers) and set his copter down by the
SuperDome. Then he would have reamed a half-dozen asses and put Bill
Clinton in charge of the recovery with full authority to act.
 
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:20:25 -0400, Harry Lavo wrote:

> Perhaps the two ex-Presidents will be able to see more clearly than the
> current inhabitant.

Well, maybe one of them. Don't forget he learned everything he knows from
the other.
 
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yeah.. blame this president you think is an idiot for everything under the
sun.

At least you're doing your part.

Of course, he'll have to take credit for every sunny day also.
 
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"Agent 86" <maxwellsmart@control.gov> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 17:20:25 -0400, Harry Lavo wrote:
>
>> Perhaps the two ex-Presidents will be able to see more clearly than the
>> current inhabitant.
>
> Well, maybe one of them. Don't forget he learned everything he knows from
> the other.

Frankly, I'd take either of the two ex's over this dumbass anyway. But at
least Clinton can think into and through a problem and make personal
decisions as a leader. Moreover, he has a common touch. He would be down
there learning firsthand what needed done and leading from a forward
position. Symbolically, Bush just "flew over" N.O. on day 2, when landing
might actually have given him some insight. But there was no script to
follow, so.........
 

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