Inspiron 9400 display barely functional 2 days after cleanout

nisuta

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Hey,

So I've had this laptop for a few years now, and have started to experience frequent overheating/shutdowns.
I finally got around to opening it up and carefully blowing out the fans/vents with a can of compressed air, and it was back to 'normal' -- for a couple of days. Turned it off last night, was working fine. Once turned on today, the display is barely functional.

By that, I mean it's "pretty much" dead -- only occasionally (every time the resolution? changes) you can see it, fine -- but then it's gone again. Plugged it into an external monitor; it behaves fine there.

I figured I mustn't have seated the LCD display cable properly, and it must have dislodged or something... so I (begrudgingly) took it apart again, and tried reseating it, but I haven't had any luck.

To be clear, it won't show anything constantly -- not the POST screen, nothing.

The only thing left I can think of, is it must be the video card - the external monitor's connecting onboard, as far as I can tell. It *COULD* be the display itself, but I highly doubt it -- it seems far too coincidental I clean it out, and it breaks a few days later. The display itself wasn't touched.

Since it's long out of warranty, that'd set me back $120-150 (according to eBay), but I don't want to make any rash decisions and purchase something I'm not convinced will solve the problem. It'd be safer just getting a new laptop.

If, on the other hand, me cleaning it out was unrelated -- maybe it just overheated & burnt itself out. Again though, it was behaving fine when I turned it off... so that, in itself, seems fairly unlikely to me. It shouldn't get any hotter when shutdown (at night, even)... though, I don't think that's possible as the display does function *somewhat* - for the tiniest of moments, and only when the display mode changes. If it burnt out, it shouldn't function at all -- right?

So, I wondered if you guys have any ideas? Anything obvious I maybe missing, or even some means of testing to further narrow down the issue. Thanks :)
 
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Mate, I think it's about time you changed your laptop. If you've had it for a few years now, and it's giving you such grievous issues, just get a new one. The inspiron 9400 that you have is a 2006 model, if I remember correctly.
That's way too out of date. They don't even fix parts for those models anymore, most of the time. You're right. You WOULD be safer getting a new one. You're at a stage where it'll cost you much more to fix it than it will to get a new one...

Labrynthian

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Mate, I think it's about time you changed your laptop. If you've had it for a few years now, and it's giving you such grievous issues, just get a new one. The inspiron 9400 that you have is a 2006 model, if I remember correctly.
That's way too out of date. They don't even fix parts for those models anymore, most of the time. You're right. You WOULD be safer getting a new one. You're at a stage where it'll cost you much more to fix it than it will to get a new one...
 
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nisuta

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Thanks for your quick response. :)

Yes, it's old, but it's more than sufficient for its purposes and has been running fine.
I'm only really posting this because it *seemed* to happen as a result of my opening it up and cleaning out the dust (albeit a couple of days later), which gives me some semblance of hope that it's something able to repaired.

I mean, it hasn't even overheated since -- surely something must have just been knocked or something simple like that? Could it have even possibly been moisture from the compressed air? I *did* leave it sit without the battery for a few hours after using it (warm day, too), just to be sure I didn't leave any moisture in there.
Also, being that it chose to play up a couple of days after the fact is a bit odd. I mean, what could possibly cause that?

Just to reiterate the situation:
- It wasn't overheating.
- It was shutdown (the battery with whatever charge left was in, but it wasn't plugged in at the wall or anything).
- When it was turned on again several hours later, the display was acting up...

The only two things that I can think of could possibly have happened to it during that time were:
- It may have been knocked (either on shutdown or on startup), which may have dislodged something that was affected after cleaning it out (vague much).
- Fairly unlikely, but... the battery acted up and burnt out... the video card. I really don't see this happening, because it seems so absurdly unlikely -- of all the components! Then, of course, there's the fact that it is actually still functioning -- whenever the display mode changes it shows, for a moment.

I don't have any other theories.

Honestly, it doesn't seem so far fetched to me that the problem's something simple I'm missing. There's *so* many other possible situations where I'd have no option but to concede defeat, but... this one seems worth it to pursue. If it means saving $ on a new laptop (or replacing components), I don't see why not.

At this stage, I'm just not sure how to confirm anything... or if I'm maybe missing something obvious.
 

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A reminder to anyone willing to take apart a computer. ESD is the most common cause of unexplained problems with computers. Make sure to be properly grounded and discharged when anywhere near an electronic component.
 

nisuta

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Even 2 days afterwards?
 

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It's quite possible that something happenend when you opened it up to clean... If you're so determined to figure it out without spending money, I suggest you contact Dell's online customer care, as opposed to trying to open it up again and risk making things worse. They have a very simple and effective online chat system with their customer representatives who will pretty much solve any issue you inquire about.
 

nisuta

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Yes, I think this highly likely too. The question is, though, what /where/why.

Again, to reiterate, the current theories (and some new ones):

- small amount of moisture introduced that didn't get a chance to dry (though it was a warm day, and it was left for an hour or so -- should be well and truly enough time for small amounts of moisture to evaporate)
- something was knocked/dislodged (though everything seems to work fine, besides the display)
- despite (trying) to stay properly grounded/discharged, I possibly slipped up and shorted something (though the laptop behaved fine for 2 days after being cleaned out, and only had issues on booting back up the following day after being shutdown normally).
- despite not overheating since, at some point afterwards the video card (assuming external monitor uses onboard VGA, which I think it does) burnt out (but: it behaved fine until it was shutdown & booted back up. Also: the display does work, somewhat).
- something's wrong with the LCD display cable socket or cable (both appear fine, but I'd imagine it'd at least explain why the display somewhat works -- if one of the pins wasn't right)
- the LCD panel conveniently decided it was just 'its time.' I'm not sure I understand how it failing would cause it to behave like this, but I don't pretend to understand how it works in as great enough detail as I'd like. I just may have a spare panel from a similar model laptop around to test with, so I'll see if I can rule this one out.


Even with the warranty expired, (otherwise, made void)... and the fact the issue was probably caused by such? Frankly I expected more 'techy' suggestions from this community (edit: to clarify, I mean, as opposed to Dell's support :p), but if you think Dell's customer support representatives will care despite the former, and moreso be able to help, I'll just have to give it a try I guess.

Thanks for your input. :)