Is the i7 6700HQ good enough to pair with a gtx 1070?

Deuteronomy_23-1

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Hi guys im currently looking between a metabox (Clevo) Prime P650RS-G and Prime-X P750DM2-G

http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b198/Metabox-Prime-P650RS-G-Laptop
http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b192/Metabox-Prime-X-P750DM2-G-Laptop


The builds for me are practically the same besides the CPU, my choices being the i7-6700HQ/i7-6820hk or the i7- 6700k

so first my question is will the i7-6700HQ bottelenck the gtx 1070?

and also how much better would the i7 6700k be than the other processors in terms of:

1. CPU intensive games (such as ARMA 3)
2. General everyday multitasking (I often have torrents/videos/games etc all running concurrently)

And finally if there are major differences, would the extra costs be justified?

I also plan to pair this laptop with an acer Xb270hu 144hz 1440p monitor for use when at home
 

Chugalug_

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It will easily get above 60fps in games. :)
In stuff like CS:GO, even the old GTX 680 I have got over 200fps maxed at 1080p, no worries there.
Even if it does become graphically demanding, you can whack on G-Sync and forget about sub-60 frame rates, just make sure it is at least 35fps averageish, as otherwise it won't work well.
GTX 1070 laptops perform within 10% of their desktop variants, i'd say very similarly to the ITX build i've listed.
In your case, the laptops are poor value and i'd go with the ITX build.
It will be perfectly fine, it has a very durable case.
Put it in a duffel bag or something or surround it with clothes or padding if you're worried and you'll be set.
You can carry it on board if you want, it gets through customs just fine.
I recommend going for the mATX build really, as it isn't much bigger and offers better value in terms of performance, but it's up to you. :)
 

Chugalug_

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It will bottleneck it a little due to it's lower clock speed and four cores, but it should be fine, it wouldn't be noticeable.
Realistically, external GPU docks are dead with the release of full fat desktop cards in new laptops.
There is no point buying an external dock with it if you can get a 1070 IN a new laptop anyway.
Unless you travel frequently, a desktop setup is what you want, or a portable ITX system.
An external GPU dock would only be used at home anyway right?

The 6700k is significantly more powerful than the 6700HQ, and it will run all of those extremely well.
The 6700HQ....not so much.
A 6700HQ and 1070 wouldn't justify the use of an XB270HU, if you're going to use that it's not going to be portable anyway, just get a desktop setup, much better value and performance, I can get you a 6700k and 1080 system for $1500 with a great SSD and 2TB of storage.

What is your budget?
 

Deuteronomy_23-1

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so would it not justify it in terms of it wont reach 144hz, or it wont reach 60hz in most games as i thought the laptop gxt 1070s werent to far off desktop performance and from what i have seen the gtx 1070 performs pretty well at 1440p

also im leaning to laptop because i move interstate every few months to for work/uni and it would be easier to take a laptop with me on a plane, other than say building two desktops at two separate locations, given my interstate accommodation will likely vary each time

and also i am from Australia, so is that 1500 AUD or USD, if AUD id be curious to see it regardless

in terms of budget im fine with around 3 grand

also im not sure where you got the external dock from as im not buying one of those
 

Chugalug_

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Ah right, I see. My bad! :)
I'm from AUS too! :p
An ITX PC would be the best choice imo, if you get a slim case you can carry it around in a backpack no troubles.
I meant in USD, but in AUD I could still fit a killer system in that budget range.
I assume you'll need wifi.
Newegg also ships to AUS now, so you can get 1080s and 1070s for a great price.
I got my EVGA FTW 1080 recently for only $870 AUD +$40 shipping, took a week to get here.
I'll get a build back to you in a sec.
 

Chugalug_

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Here's an ITX build.
I've put in an i7 6700 because it will be useful for Uni stuff and the level of multitasking you do.
I'll post a slightly bigger mATX build below.
Click on the Parts List URL for the case link.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($425.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C7 40.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($45.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($165.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($99.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card ($649.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($179.00 @ CPL Online)
Other: SilverStone Raven RVZ02B-W ($109.00)
Total: $1898.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-03 15:38 AEST+1000
 

Chugalug_

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mATX build.
Again, see parts list URL for GTX 1080 link, and yes it is in AUD. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($425.00 @ Centre Com)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Alpine 11 GT Rev 2 28.6 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($15.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B150M-HD3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($104.00 @ Scorptec)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($99.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($98.00 @ CPL Online)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($145.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($79.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Other: EVGA GTX 1080 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 (Newegg inc. shipping) ($903.83)
Total: $1997.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-03 15:45 AEST+1000
 

Deuteronomy_23-1

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thats a really nice build :)

problem for me again would be taking an itx build on a plane, i just cant help but assume it will get damaged somehow given the experiences ive had with my current laptop in overhead lockers (that could be anecdotal however).

however in terms of the gtx 1070 laptop performance at 1440p, will it get above 60fps in games, as i was under the impression that it would get high fps when playing games like cs:go for instance (like above 100 etc) where they are not as graphic intensive and fps is more important and perhaps for games like far cry 4 would be closer to but still above 60fps and i could take advantage of the the higher res/picture quality of the monitor. so basically i could get the best of both worlds when needed, if all that makes sense.

what are your thoughts on this?
 

Chugalug_

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It will easily get above 60fps in games. :)
In stuff like CS:GO, even the old GTX 680 I have got over 200fps maxed at 1080p, no worries there.
Even if it does become graphically demanding, you can whack on G-Sync and forget about sub-60 frame rates, just make sure it is at least 35fps averageish, as otherwise it won't work well.
GTX 1070 laptops perform within 10% of their desktop variants, i'd say very similarly to the ITX build i've listed.
In your case, the laptops are poor value and i'd go with the ITX build.
It will be perfectly fine, it has a very durable case.
Put it in a duffel bag or something or surround it with clothes or padding if you're worried and you'll be set.
You can carry it on board if you want, it gets through customs just fine.
I recommend going for the mATX build really, as it isn't much bigger and offers better value in terms of performance, but it's up to you. :)
 

Deuteronomy_23-1

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ok, i'll definitely consider those builds you gave me and look into how to best transport them/ whether i can make them practical with another cheaper laptop i take with me to my job and so on.

however, just in case a laptop is eventually required (I understand now its of poorer value but could be very likely given my job) in relation to my initial question for 1440p gaming/general usage or working, would you say that purely performance wise the I7-6700k + gtx 1070 would be much better than the i7-6700hq to the extent that i7-6700HQ would not run games well at all/multitask noticeably poorer, or would be a few frames slower/and unnoticeably different for general multitasking.
 

AndersM95

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I have a 1070 and a i7 6700hq laptop. I run gta v fully maxed out at between 75-90 fps and the witcher 3 at 70-85. The best solution is to let ur gpu handle physx in the nvdia controll panel rathet than the cpu. Ive never had one problem with my cpu bottlenecking my card :)
 

Deuteronomy_23-1

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is that at 1080p or 1440p?
 

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Not the OP here but I've had experience with 1440p at ultra settings (no AA) with Witcher 3 and an overclocked GTX 1070. I can generally hold 60fps but will dip to around 55 quite often. In BF1 I was getting around 70-80fps.

IMO a GTX 1080 is a much better 1440p card, and I have since upgraded to one in my desktop. 90fps in W3 and around 110 in bf 1.

In terms of buying a new laptop, I had the same dilemma as you and ended up buying a Clevo p650rs-g with the 6700hq. I thought the Prime-X would be way too bulky and heavy, and with a desktop 6700k it would have terrible battery life. Plus, a 6700k would be way overkill for a GTX 1070 and probably unnecessary based on your needs. The 6820hk makes more sense if you're focused on CPU intensive tasks.

For home use, I have a 6600k / GTX 1080 desktop to use anyway.

My current MSI laptop has the previous gen equivalent of the 6700hq (being the 4720hq) and I've had no issues with multitasking or gaming. If you're not doing CPU intensive rendering or content creation, I think it should be more than sufficient. It should really only be a bottleneck in extremely CPU intensive games such as Cities Skylines. There is actually a review on YouTube by Project Equatis (I'm on mobile and can't find the link right now) where he concludes that there is no CPU bottleneck in BF1.
 
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