Not sure about that Mr Jobs, In Australia at least, I'm Looking at the PlayStation Network In Particular, Sure I can purchase and Hire movies on the PlayStation network, and I'm thinking that its a great idea, but heres the kicker, they want to charge the same amount for purchasing the product in digital format as I would pay for Physical Media. I then also loose the ability to Sell the media later, AND the ability to lend the Movie to a friend to watch. nevermind I also have Internet Download Caps which would add to my download quota. so tell me, why would I move to Digital media and movie distribution in this case? also to rent the movies cost more than it would going down to my local video store, so again.. why would I rent a download. I'm not willing to pay Considerably More for that kind of convenience when I can just pick up a movie from my video store when I'm out and about at some point.
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Don't forget about the audio on bluray. Why download a hidef video with crappy audio. I love my blurays, not just the video but the uncompressed audio. Digital downloads don't give you uncompressed audio.
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Praise Brother/Prophet Jobs! So it is written, so it shall be done...! He shall tell us how to think and dictates how the future of media formats shall be and we shall blindly follow.
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investing in blue ray is like investing in mini disc or 8 track dude. get with the times memory cards are where it's at, you can store more for less you can even erase, and change the media to the next grat thing like when things went to HD then 720p now 1080p..hell these formats just like blueray are behind the times, my res has been 1600x1200 for the last 2 years by the time it gets to 1200p we'll be double that. hollywoods too slow if you wait on them you'll become extinct. memory cards are even better because you can edit them and delete the advertising and copy right b.s. and move the trailers to the end if you still want them with a windows explorer window on a computer. so easy my 4 yr old neice can do it [btw i hate the wonder pets, wish my NES would let my gun controller shoot them like duck hunt :*( ]
i've had memory card reader on my dvd player since 2006 and have been doing this since 8gb sd cards hit $20 a few years ago. i've got all 6 star wars movies on 1 sd card, all the star treks on 2 cards, lord of the rings on 1 card.. seasons of t.v. shows on 1-2 cards.. and i can fit an entire 10 year show in the case of a blueray/dvd jewel case. so A) it's cheaper then blue ray B) holds more then blueray C) smaller then blueray D) more easily changed then blueray. the very same arguement that was made for MP3 before steve jobs even had a went dream about mp3's and itunes. this should be a legitimate toms artile blue ray vs memory cards comparison, maybe it will give rico and kevin something worth writing about instead of non computer rubbish like the worthless 1950's concept of 3-D instead of a hologram laser projection rendering REAL 3D via 6sets of rgb(or more) lasers into a cube of solid/hollow glass as big as 3"cubed to as big as 300'cubed R2D2 style which has a more legitimate chance of being a 3D concept worth writing about then stupid red and blue film glasses over your eyes (REALLY? 4FLIPPEN REAL REALLY? I ALREADY WEAR GLASSES, and with all the dust, esp. from glasses made in 1950 i am not wearing contacts so shovel those flippen stereoscopic glasses up your dairy aire')
Praise Brother/Prophet Jobs! So it is written, so it shall be done...! He shall tell us how to think and dictates how the future of media formats shall be and we shall blindly follow.
/sarcasm
investing in blue ray is like investing in mini disc or 8 track dude. get with the times memory cards are where it's at, you can store more for less you can even erase, and change the media to the next grat thing like when things went to HD then 720p now 1080p..hell these formats just like blueray are behind the times, my res has been 1600x1200 for the last 2 years by the time it gets to 1200p we'll be double that. hollywoods too slow if you wait on them you'll become extinct. memory cards are even better because you can edit them and delete the advertising and copy right b.s. and move the trailers to the end if you still want them with a windows explorer window on a computer. so easy my 4 yr old neice can do it [btw i hate the wonder pets, wish my NES would let my gun controller shoot them like duck hunt :*( ]
i've had memory card reader on my dvd player since 2006 and have been doing this since 8gb sd cards hit $20 a few years ago. i've got all 6 star wars movies on 1 sd card, all the star treks on 2 cards, lord of the rings on 1 card.. seasons of t.v. shows on 1-2 cards.. and i can fit an entire 10 year show in the case of a blueray/dvd jewel case. so A) it's cheaper then blue ray B) holds more then blueray C) smaller then blueray D) more easily changed then blueray. the very same arguement that was made for MP3 before steve jobs even had a went dream about mp3's and itunes. this should be a legitimate toms artile blue ray vs memory cards comparison, maybe it will give rico and kevin something worth writing about instead of non computer rubbish like the worthless 1950's concept of 3-D instead of a hologram laser projection rendering REAL 3D via 6sets of rgb(or more) lasers into a cube of solid/hollow glass as big as 3"cubed to as big as 300'cubed R2D2 style which has a more legitimate chance of being a 3D concept worth writing about then stupid red and blue film glasses over your eyes (REALLY? 4FLIPPEN REAL REALLY? I ALREADY WEAR GLASSES, and with all the dust, esp. from glasses made in 1950 i am not wearing contacts so shovel those flippen stereoscopic glasses up your dairy aire')
Lots of Blu-Ray movies are pretty cheap these days. I see lots and lots of movies for $10, at least here in Canada. You'd need an unlimited connection of 30-50Mbps, and I guess even more for 3D, to stream, and we're not there yet. The question at the end of this article should be: Do you believe that Mr Joke(b)s is responsible for the downfall of High Definition Music such as DVD-A and SACD? I think he is. And that's why I'll never ever have Apple product, never ever... And won't recommend it to anyone. Now I'd really love to see Blu-Ray Audio format.
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Steve Jobs is a delusional nutcase who belongs in a padded round cell. He is akin to the little goldfish living inside an aquarium - oblivious to how the real fish live out in the open sea.
He envisions us downloading HD content, presumably on his locked-down products, yet AT&T introduces a 2GB cap on broadband data plans. Hands up who got screwed buying the 3G iPad? Just because Jobs has a 50mbit pipe up his rectum, doesn't mean the rest of the world does too.
Moral of the story - the next time you get a $250 overage charge for data on your iPhone, send the invoice to Mister Steve with a footnote on the bottom - "Hey, I love your iPhone, but you're gonna have to foot the bill!"
He envisions us downloading HD content, presumably on his locked-down products, yet AT&T introduces a 2GB cap on broadband data plans. Hands up who got screwed buying the 3G iPad? Just because Jobs has a 50mbit pipe up his rectum, doesn't mean the rest of the world does too.
Moral of the story - the next time you get a $250 overage charge for data on your iPhone, send the invoice to Mister Steve with a footnote on the bottom - "Hey, I love your iPhone, but you're gonna have to foot the bill!"
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I see one MAJOR drawback to all this cloud stuff they keep trying to push. YOU NEED AN INTERNET CONNECTION!!!
So you are sat there with your collection of movies in the cloud and ready to watch a great film with the family when.... hey the routers gone off!!!!
Personally I like to have hard copies of the things i buy. whether that be on disc or hard drive. The ONLY reason that I think these companies want us all to go that way is so that THEY can control and watch everything we own or do.
Forget that as i for one am certainly not interested!!
So you are sat there with your collection of movies in the cloud and ready to watch a great film with the family when.... hey the routers gone off!!!!
Personally I like to have hard copies of the things i buy. whether that be on disc or hard drive. The ONLY reason that I think these companies want us all to go that way is so that THEY can control and watch everything we own or do.
Forget that as i for one am certainly not interested!!
[citation][nom]joytech22[/nom]Does this idiot (jobs) believe EVERYBODY has access to super freaking fast internet? with unlimited caps?!I mean over here the best unlimited cap comes with 25kb/s download speeds, and the best we have is 20-25Mbits with a combo of at least 250-500GB a month![/citation]
Lucky you. I'm still stuck on a 3Mb line with a 30GB limit per month (I'm charged if I go over too). Took 1 day to download Mass Effect 1 from steam a couple of weeks.
Curse you Eircom!
Lucky you. I'm still stuck on a 3Mb line with a 30GB limit per month (I'm charged if I go over too). Took 1 day to download Mass Effect 1 from steam a couple of weeks.
Curse you Eircom!
To play a little devil's advocate, I don't own or use Apple products, if government bodies started enacting net neutrality laws and subsidizing telecommunication infrastructure then a switch to digital only would be possible. But then you have to get the MPAA to play ball creating a market place for their products online.
Those are some big ifs, and just to avoid paying sony for the right to use their technology, it seems a bit much.
Those are some big ifs, and just to avoid paying sony for the right to use their technology, it seems a bit much.
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I agree with Jobs on this one; why try to keep forcing hard media when you just could invest in making better formats for download. Keep improving beyond h264 in algorithms and we'll get better quality per MB of data!
The future is going on digital content; besides, there are still SDs with a lot of capacity wich can be used as a media/data approach with like, 1/10th of the space used? Why stick to BlueRay? Even getting hard drives is getting more cost effective with bay support from a lot of brands (I don't own an internal disc reader now; just an external one that I plug when I *really* need it).
Come on guys, don't be such fanbois; the guy is right on this one... At least, as long as he doesn't force companies to NOT make BlueRays for the Macs just because he doesn't want to. That would be stupid.
Cheers!
The future is going on digital content; besides, there are still SDs with a lot of capacity wich can be used as a media/data approach with like, 1/10th of the space used? Why stick to BlueRay? Even getting hard drives is getting more cost effective with bay support from a lot of brands (I don't own an internal disc reader now; just an external one that I plug when I *really* need it).
Come on guys, don't be such fanbois; the guy is right on this one... At least, as long as he doesn't force companies to NOT make BlueRays for the Macs just because he doesn't want to. That would be stupid.
Cheers!
[citation][nom]digitalrazoe[/nom]BluRay as a distribution of content .. possibly - its rare that I even buy a BluRay or DVD ( leave alone a CD ) these days .. HOWEVER as a backup medium for all your harddrive and redundant removable/external harddrives ... BDRom is the way to go and when the XL standard becomes finalized, it will be something I will be acquiring - Download or not .. I HAVE to have it on some form of physical media ...[/citation]
No actually I would think cheaper more massive hard drives would be the way to go. Not knocking you, I just agree with Jobs on this one. (I just threw up a little in my mouth after typing that)
No actually I would think cheaper more massive hard drives would be the way to go. Not knocking you, I just agree with Jobs on this one. (I just threw up a little in my mouth after typing that)
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I'm not one to make sweeping predictions lightly (while I'll make specific predictions with abandon ;-) ) But, IMO, Blu-Ray is to streaming what Paper is to digital forms.
It sounds all well and good, and it makes record keeping easier, but in the end, nothing beats a hard copy when it comes to information protection. Shippers still ask you to PRINT COPIES of their forms. Everyone still asks you to keep PAPER COPIES of everything. Why? Paper, while flawed, is infallible. It digital copies can be altered simply without leaving much of a footprint. It takes an expert to tracelessly alter paper. Paper doesn't "vanish in a crash" or "disappear into the cloud". you don't need to remember a password to hand someone a sheet of paper. You don't need to rummage through a stack of folders and nested directories to find a sheet of leaf.
Same holds true for physical media. I don't need to have access to a computer to run a DVD/Bluray on a TV. I can bring a DVD/Bluray to a friends house, and chances are they'll have a device to play it, and one that's hooked into their TV.
The long and short of it is that Streaming is revolutionizing how we consume media, but it's only ADDING to it, not supplanting anything. Bluray is here, and here to stay. H.264 and DTS-HD MA and it'd Dolby rival are selling enough. 1080p without the need for ultra-high bandwidth. Up-front cost instead of recurring bills.
Streaming kicks ass, and it's a new addition to the media consumption service. Like e-files before it...will it replace some conventional systems like job applications and mail? probably. Will it replace physical media? Never.
It sounds all well and good, and it makes record keeping easier, but in the end, nothing beats a hard copy when it comes to information protection. Shippers still ask you to PRINT COPIES of their forms. Everyone still asks you to keep PAPER COPIES of everything. Why? Paper, while flawed, is infallible. It digital copies can be altered simply without leaving much of a footprint. It takes an expert to tracelessly alter paper. Paper doesn't "vanish in a crash" or "disappear into the cloud". you don't need to remember a password to hand someone a sheet of paper. You don't need to rummage through a stack of folders and nested directories to find a sheet of leaf.
Same holds true for physical media. I don't need to have access to a computer to run a DVD/Bluray on a TV. I can bring a DVD/Bluray to a friends house, and chances are they'll have a device to play it, and one that's hooked into their TV.
The long and short of it is that Streaming is revolutionizing how we consume media, but it's only ADDING to it, not supplanting anything. Bluray is here, and here to stay. H.264 and DTS-HD MA and it'd Dolby rival are selling enough. 1080p without the need for ultra-high bandwidth. Up-front cost instead of recurring bills.
Streaming kicks ass, and it's a new addition to the media consumption service. Like e-files before it...will it replace some conventional systems like job applications and mail? probably. Will it replace physical media? Never.
If you assume a moore's law for codecs, gradual improvement of bandwidth for people, he's probably correct. Many people will tolerate substandard video quality for convenience and low cost. I'd say his comment "free, instant gratification, .." describes youtube very well. Itunes is a good example of the forumula too. But.... If you really want to feel like you're in the helicopter flying over the mountains, there's not substitute for Blu-Ray Planet Earth.
I would think that if Apple was really on the ball, they would pioneer 3D downloads, leap frogging the conventional blu-ray.
I would think that if Apple was really on the ball, they would pioneer 3D downloads, leap frogging the conventional blu-ray.
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