LD quality differences

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I have been selling thousands of laserdisc on eBay (selling not just listing).
They go all over the world, though most go to the US and Canada. Many go for
big bucks. point Blank sold for ober $100.00 and Howard The Duck went for over
$80.00. Not bad for an obsolete format.

 

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if it wasn't for ld and the optical format there would be no DVD today.



"KAMCGANN" <kamcgann@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >I don't understand how a company can release such a poor looking disc
while
> another company, their competition, releases a crisp looking disc.>
>
> It simply didn't matter. LDers demonstrated that they would
blindly
> accept anything released on their beloved format.....and that is what they
got.
> LDers lovingly endured years of P&S, rot/speckling, crosstalk, poor bang
for
> the buck, "white dots," chroma noise, etc. and would still be willing to
> purchase far inferior LDs today for twice the price of state of the art
DVDs.
> There was no limit to the compromise LDers were willing to accept for
their
> underachieving clunky format. Thankfully, consumers and non format
obsessed A/V
> enthusiasts alike have made DVD, the true high performance standard
definition
> format, the format of choice worldwide and have relegated the obsolete LD
> format to the obscurity it so richly deserves.
>
> Kraig
>

 

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>I happen to have a taste for early 1980's music videos, and there are SOME
available on DVD, but not enough. >

Me too, John. I have a lot of music videos on LD. Some of my faves
are the Taylor Dayne and Belinda Carlisle video collections. If you haven't
noticed, there have been quite a few DVD video collections popping up recently,
some for the first time on any format, i.e., No Doubt, Sheryl Crow, and Olivia
Newton John. I am hoping for a definitive DVD collection of KISS videos.
Kraig

 

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In article <20040512163309.10762.00001108@mb-m01.aol.com>,
kamcgann@aol.com (KAMCGANN) writes:
>>I happen to have a taste for early 1980's music videos, and there are SOME
> available on DVD, but not enough. >
>
> Me too, John. I have a lot of music videos on LD. Some of my faves
> are the Taylor Dayne and Belinda Carlisle video collections. If you haven't
> noticed, there have been quite a few DVD video collections popping up recently,
> some for the first time on any format, i.e., No Doubt, Sheryl Crow, and Olivia
> Newton John. I am hoping for a definitive DVD collection of KISS videos.
>
My favorite for early 1980's videos were the 'Cars.' Their stuff was
avant-garde, yet not totally without taste. There was some real creativity
going on in some of the early 1980's in general. Even some of the
later 1980's Paula Abdul stuff was pretty good (as videos, not necessarily
music, per se.) Geesh even some of the (dare I say) Michael Jackson
stuff was good (video wise), and Madonna was pretty good in her own way.
Perhaps it would be cool to have a full collection of Wierd Al on DVD --
just for the fun of it...

I have successfully 'restored' some of the Cars stuff from LD to make
it look pretty close to a slightly fuzzier than optimum DVD (but fairly
clean, noise wise.) The noise reduction technologies are PRETTY
GOOD (not perfect) nowadays. Too bad (for example) I don't have a
good (or any copy) of Cars, Tonight She Comes (???) I suspect that
trolling MTV2 or somesuch for a few years might be successful, but
the quality of over compressed MPEG2 or OTA NTSC isn't something that
is worthwhile to me.

John

 

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>Perhaps it would be cool to have a full collection of Wierd Al on DVD

This was just recently released.

 

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>Howard The Duck went for over
>$80.00. Not bad for an obsolete format.
>

Obsolete or not, who would pay $80 for Howard The Duck?

 

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<<Thankfully, consumers and non format
obsessed A/V enthusiasts alike have made DVD, the true high performance
standard definition format, the format of choice worldwide and have relegated
the obsolete LD format to the obscurity it so richly deserves.>>

>if it wasn't for ld and the optical format there would be no DVD today.>

....and if it were not for the Wright Brothers, there would be no airplanes
today, right?
Kraig

 

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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Howard The Duck went for over
> >$80.00. Not bad for an obsolete format.
> >
>
> Obsolete or not, who would pay $80 for Howard The Duck?

Good or not, Howard The Duck is a huge cult classic...

 

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>Good or not, Howard The Duck is a huge cult classic...
>

You'd think a "huge" cult classic would find it's way to DVD.

 

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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Good or not, Howard The Duck is a huge cult classic...
> >
>
> You'd think a "huge" cult classic would find it's way to DVD.

It was Ex. Produced by George Lucas, now do you know one big reason why it
hasnt been released?

 

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>It was Ex. Produced by George Lucas, now do you know one big reason why it
>hasnt been released?

No. At the very least, we knew that Indiana Jones and Star Wars were coming.
It's taken long enough, but everyone knew they were coming nonetheless. There
hasn't even been an announcement for HTD, and there's no expectation of a DVD
release. Besides, Indiana Jones and the SW flicks are Lucas' babies. HTD is so
poorly regarded by 90% of everyone, I can't believe he's holding off a DVD
version so that he can include special extras.

 

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"Steve Grauman" <oneactor1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> No. At the very least, we knew that Indiana Jones and Star Wars were
coming.
> It's taken long enough, but everyone knew they were coming
nonetheless. There
> hasn't even been an announcement for HTD, and there's no expectation
of a DVD
> release. Besides, Indiana Jones and the SW flicks are Lucas' babies.
HTD is so
> poorly regarded by 90% of everyone, I can't believe he's holding off a
DVD
> version so that he can include special extras.

He is busy digitally replacing Howard with a new CGI version, convinced
that the costume effect was the only reason for the movie's box office
failure.

(And I'm only half-kidding here.)

 

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>He is busy digitally replacing Howard with a new CGI version, convinced
>that the costume effect was the only reason for the movie's box office
>failure.
>
>(And I'm only half-kidding here.)

LOL! I haven't seen that movie since I was 12 or 13 and even then, I can
remember thinking it was weird. If I saw it again now, I'm fairly sure I'd hate
it, but you never know. In any case, that movie flopped for good reason, and I
can't understand why people are paying $80 a pop for the LD. Hell, I don't
think the Criterion release of Blade Runner goes that high.

 

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On 09 May 2004 02:05:26 GMT, oneactor1@aol.com (Steve Grauman) wrote:

>Probably for all the same reasons why some DVDs look great and others look like
>trash.

Depends if they use "masters" or bad/analog duplicates ?
or bad quality equipment? or remaster ? digitaly enhance ?

 

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>Depends if they use "masters" or bad/analog duplicates ?
>or bad quality equipment? or remaster ? digitaly enhance ?

All of it has an effect. As a side note, many early DVDs, (a good number of
which have yet to be replaced with newer versions) were basically direct ports
of older LDs. The increase in resolution from LD to DVD can help, but even so,
a poor mastering for the older LD will transfer to a poor DVD. What makes the
picture good depends largly on the quality of the original source material and
what was or was not done to improve quality. If the technology had existed in
the late 80s and early 1990s to do down-conversions from prepped and cleaned
1080p remasters (as was done with the Extreme Edition of T2 on DVD), I'm sure
many LDs would've looked much better.