Man Faces Jail for YouTube Video of State Trooper

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]spanspace[/nom]You are very right about why it's a wire-tapping charge. The fact is the cops do it all the time to us. I've never once been told I am being filmed by their car. I know they do it though. If there is a public outcry this guy will be fine. IF there isn't he will go down because the public is too chicken **** to speak out. I'll sign any petition to get a piece of **** corrupt cop off the streets. I want cops that protect and serve not ones that abuse their power.[/citation]

You are talking about dropping 2/3 of the police force. Which I would be perfectly happy with.

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]hakesterman[/nom]He should have pulled a gun on the cop and shot it. That would qualify as legitimate defense. Just say to the judge that you thought the guy was trying to carjack your bike...You truely are a complete MORON..........[/citation]

Hows that, you assume that any gun totting moron who cuts you off on the highway in civilian clothes in a civilian car is a cop?? Right...

 

[velozzity]

2REAL

you're all talk you wouldn't do this esp if it was a cop. they'd fry your ass so fast

Hey i just noticed every other post here is yours are you that douchebag pig who pulled over the driver trying to defend your actions, if not your a troll so Fk'off, and about me being unable to back up my words, well lets see, if someone comes at me armed, im going to

(A) preserve my life because i am being assaulted by an armed person who is not making there intentions or identity clear.

(B) take chance to see if it might just be someone i know playing a prank or a hyped up officer not using clear discretion on how to approach the situation

I chose A, and most would especially if the cop was acting like the criminals he is supposed to be protecting us from.

 

[fulle]

Even after the officer said "State Police", it looked pretty much like a car jacking. Completely unacceptable.

Is there anything we can do to help make sure that this asshole officer's local department gets the shame, and negative backlash it deserves?

Seriously, does anyone know of any organization supporting the bike rider, or anything like that, which people can donate to help support his defense? Or local politicians who can be sent a ridiculous amount of negative letters and calls regarding how PISSED the public is that the police act this way in their jurisdiction?

And if this is actually a "crime" according to current laws, it seems like it violates our right to petition the government of wrongdoing... and should become a supreme court issue. If it's currently illegal to record a police officer who's detaining you, it damn well ought NOT to be.

 

[JOSHSKORN]

16 years in prison for videotaping? Wow, I'm glad were doing everything we can to keep the real criminals off the streets.

 

[BulkZerker]

[citation][nom]Hatecrime69[/nom]don't be silly, we american's haven't had rights for a very long time[/citation]
*cough* pttriot act *cough* yea go usaa best country in the world. We're so free!

 

[warmon6]

[citation][nom]2real[/nom]again, if that cop wasn't ready to respond to hostile acts, then he'd be dead on the job very fastgang members and stop and ask you to turn off your bike[/citation]

I dont know about you but i've seen plenty of cops that encounter a situation like this with out bringing out gun!

As for reacting to "violent situations", you must not know any as i know of NONE would pull a gun like that. I know a few cops (freind wise) and seen many videos of cops (like worlds wildest police videos)and what they would do is have the hand on the gun "INCASE" something would turn ugly. They are trained to have very quick drawl (due to repetition) so pointing a gun is stupid.

But pulling out a gun and not say who he was is inexcusable. It's not like he was already stopped once and then fled the scene. If that was case we would see a few more things than this.

1. this guy would of kept going (not stopping) and there plenty of room to flee
2. there would of been way more cop cars

If this this guy did flee once or the biker was pointing a gun at or near the police officer. I could see the reason why to pulled a gun but this is a first time encounter situation and the biker had both hands on the handrail so neither thing happened.

[citation][nom]2real[/nom]man so many e-thugs here i don't think any of you would pull a gun and shoot a cop[/citation]

If i had a gun, some one pulled a gun on me and it not clear what there attention is/who they are, I would shot in self defense.

Remember, no one is mind readers!

If i cant tell what you're planning to do and you're not making you're self clear of who you are, HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO KNOW YOU'RE A COP at the moment i see that gun?!?!?!?!

Simple, you cant.

Thats just like you pulling a gun on them. If they dont know who you are, why you're doing so, and it may put theres or other people lives endangered, they have the right to shoot.


Join the real world were people can do things that can HURT YOU! What that cop did was like what a real carjacker would do. It's my life or his. Want would you do? Get killed if it was a real carjacker? I dont think so....

 

[warmon6]

[citation][nom]thorimmortal[/nom]I am still at a loss how speeding is a threat that dictates drawing your weapon, was he running? nope just speeding, why was an unmarked parked where he was? was he waiting for the biker? maybe this is a regular occurrence and other videos have been posted, maybe he had run in the past, who knows, if this were the case im sure they would have implemented different tactics to trap him. even still with out proper ID of who you are and what your doing just makes you a man with a gun. there is something about the thrill of the hunt that escalates these situations, the ability to control your primal instinct comes into play and some cant control them selves as well as others.you could see when he jumped out of the car he was drawing and kind of second guessed his own actions after going to low ready by placing his gun to a concealed position. He realized he f'ed up by not disclosing who he was right off the bat and then leaving himself in compromising position to every one else near by. it looked like at the end there was a cruiser behind the biker, think of the situation to the surrounding onlookers, looks like a threat to me. just for reference this reminds me of another article. http/rawstory.com/rs/2010/0515/g [...] orcyclist/[/citation]

Ah yes i remember that. Heard something about that on the news when i was still living in ohio.

 

[warezme]

Does Anthony have a lawyer? I want to be his lawyer..., slam dunk.

 

[zild1221]

If I was the guy on the bike, and someone cut me off and got out with a gun pointing at me, I would have pulled my weapon and shot him. It is his own fault if he does not identify himself.

 

[fromage2323]

i agree the cop was out of line in his protocol. but in all seriousness. that guy was speeding. a lot. when people pass me on the road speeding like that it makes me pretty mad.

 

[shin0bi272]

[citation][nom]Ghaz[/nom]Oh dear America. In the UK the trooper would be the one in a lot of trouble. 16 years is the kind of time people get for raping and murdering, not accidentally videotaping someone jump out of a car with a gun at you. Seriously, what?[/citation]
welcome to the socialist states of america please run for your life.

 

[Rorick]

Alright, for those of you who can't seem to grasp this concept, here's a little scenario for you:

I'm on my bike, doing 110 in a 75 zone on Interstate. Aside from driving fast, I'm not being too terribly reckless. I know I could be pulled over for speeding, but I don't see any cops, so all's good. I pull off the interstate and some dip wad in a sedan races in front of me. The @$$ gets out of their car and pull a gun on me ordering me off my bike. I, thinking that they are jacking me pull out my gun I have holstered and shoot it at them. They are on the ground, a bullet in their head, and I'm grabbing my cellphone to report their crime and to get an ambulance out here. A trooper pulls up behind me seconds later, and I learn that the man I had shot was an undercover/off duty officer.


^That's what would have been going through my mind had I been in Graber's shoes. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. It's as simple as a man, who I don't know, pulled a gun out on me and I get the feeling he's trying to rob me. Any citizen with a gun would have shot that idiot trooper where he stood.

Yes, Graber was in the wrong for speeding, but speeding =/= the need for pulling out a gun on him. That was the cop's screw up, and he should take the fall for it.

 

[thorimmortal]

[citation][nom]weepee[/nom]so nobody likes to point out that the officer never once pointed the gun at the biker? he only drew his gun to bring the bike to a stop, once communication started he put it away.[/citation]
With out a viable threat that is brandishing, there was no clear way of telling he was a trooper until he identified himself after the fact. You cant just draw your weapon any time you feel like it out in the open, if he was in uniform or even showed his badge coming out of the car there would be no talk of his wrong doing, but it would be a duty call at that point because he was identified. even after he Identified him self in the vid he was still just a man with a gun, no credentials shown, so do you think if someone has a gun they are a leo? how about a hat that says FBI. as for the wire tapping allegation how could you not know you were being taped the camera on his helmet was huge, in pursuit of a speeding motorcycle rider has a huge effing camera on his head. I think they are stretching it a bit to shift the focus away from any wrong doing on their part. Kind of like spilling a bunch of oil into the gulf to shift the focus away from spending billions of dollars like its a game of monopoly.

 

[blurr91]

I hope the state trooper gets nailed to the wall. I hate thugs who abuse power by hiding behind their government employment.

 

[warmon6]

[citation][nom]Rorick[/nom]Alright, for those of you who can't seem to grasp this concept, here's a little scenario for you:I'm on my bike, doing 110 in a 75 zone on Interstate. Aside from driving fast, I'm not being too terribly reckless. I know I could be pulled over for speeding, but I don't see any cops, so all's good. I pull off the interstate and some dip wad in a sedan races in front of me. The @$$ gets out of their car and pull a gun on me ordering me off my bike. I, thinking that they are jacking me pull out my gun I have holstered and shoot it at them. They are on the ground, a bullet in their head, and I'm grabbing my cellphone to report their crime and to get an ambulance out here. A trooper pulls up behind me seconds later, and I learn that the man I had shot was an undercover/off duty officer.^That's what would have been going through my mind had I been in Graber's shoes. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. It's as simple as a man, who I don't know, pulled a gun out on me and I get the feeling he's trying to rob me. Any citizen with a gun would have shot that idiot trooper where he stood.Yes, Graber was in the wrong for speeding, but speeding =/= the need for pulling out a gun on him. That was the cop's screw up, and he should take the fall for it.[/citation]

Well said. [:jaydeejohn:5]

 

[defender0802]

This is just a disgusting and frankly a sad article to read. How can you throw a man in jail for a law that isnt even clear?! The ambiguity of the law and the fact that it has to be interpreted by some schmucks should alone be cause to not jail. The officer did have his badge on his right hip but when he exited the vehicle it was not readily visible. He is at major fault there and the fact that he pulled his weapon on an obviously unarmed motorist? What the hell is wrong with him?! The motorist should be cited for speeding and whatever else they can pin on him but the videotaping charge is completely ridiculous. This is just one of the cases that is so insanely ridiculous you think its a joke and that theres other motives behind the whole thing.

 

[defender0802]

This is just a disgusting and frankly a sad article to read. How can you throw a man in jail for a law that isnt even clear?! The ambiguity of the law and the fact that it has to be interpreted by some schmucks should alone be cause to not jail. The officer did have his badge on his right hip but when he exited the vehicle it was not readily visible. He is at major fault there and the fact that he pulled his weapon on an obviously unarmed motorist? What the hell is wrong with him?! The motorist should be cited for speeding and whatever else they can pin on him but the videotaping charge is completely ridiculous. This is just one of the cases that is so insanely ridiculous you think its a joke and that theres other motives behind the whole thing.

 

[tokenz]

[citation][nom]1pp1k10k4m1[/nom]The trooper doesn't have a legal foot to stand on. The state will lose the case, and they'll be lucky not to get counter-sued. Trooper failed to identify himself, brandished a firearm (that's as legit as the "wiretapping" charge), the wiretapping thing won't stick, and the cop used unnecessary force (cops never pull their guns just for kicks, especially on motorcycles when there is little to hide on it). Graber will be vindicated from this governmental bully.[/citation]
Yep they better hope he gets found guilty. Criminal cases can be used in a civil case. So if he is found not guilty he can certainly sue

 

[blackdimonds]

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