Man With Hitler Speech as Ringtone Faces Jailtime

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NikTorious

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[citation][nom]xbeater[/nom]fail, that was not first. If your going to troll, at least do it right![/citation] +1000
 

the_krasno

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This guy is an ignorant idiot, but also... German law is stupid. They excessively censor films and videogames.

Like if doing that will hide their years and history of cruelty and violence!

You know who did not have violent videogames? HITLER! Violence in videogames does not correlate with violence in real life.
 

Silmarunya

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It's somewhat understandable. For an American, European WW II is a rather far off thing that they didn't get involved in up close (no civilian casualties and the American role in Allied victory is next to nothing - Soviet Russia single handedly destroyed Germany with British air support).

But for Germans, Hitler's terror is still very much alive. They dread Nazism. They suffered immensely due to it. And then someone thinks it's funny to play Hitler quotes in public? I'll start reciting the Quran during a Christian meeting. Or shout how America isn't socialist enough at a Tea Party meeting. That's how respectful it is...
 

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[citation][nom]the_krasno[/nom]This guy is an ignorant idiot, but also... German law is stupid. They excessively censor films and videogames.[/citation]
To be fair though you can't really blame the laws all things considered, even if I'd personally agree they are excessive.

Looking at if from another perspective you could say the same thing about US laws and censorship, only they refer to nudity, sex and moral outrage rather than violence.

Man has a long way to go still I fear.
 

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[citation][nom]jimishtar[/nom]this is just stupid. what happened to freedom of speech and thoughts ?[/citation]

He ain't in America.
 

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As screwed up as the Teabaggers are... who knows what sets them off. They aren't close to the evil that was Hitler and his Nazi party.

But Neo-Nazis are around...
 

Silmarunya

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[citation][nom]moeHAMhad[/nom]^ It's Europe, only Muslims can publicly preach hate.[/citation]

Do you live in Europe? I never noticed preaching hate is the exclusive territory of Muslims, and I know very few Muslims that preach hate.
 

Silmarunya

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[citation][nom]TemjinGold[/nom]He ain't in America.[/citation]

Wait? America is the shining beacon of free speech?

I guess the Patriot Act never happened. I guess communists are allowed to speak freely. I guess a homosexual can freely show his affinity in public and can even marry his partner?

Oh wait, that's in Europe.
 

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Okay I am German, and Freedom of Speech does not apply to hatred ... at least in Germany. Hence, having someone broadcast such material in public is an offense no matter which way it goes.

Most "historic" broadcasts in the US certainly glorify the German war machine and it's no wonder people think it's not that bad. In fact there is a sick admiration prevalent in some people.

Think of it as slander, and "every American" (stereotypical) would go to court for that. Just as "freedom of speech" doesn't apply to that, it doesn't in this case.
 
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If we've learned anything in the 21st century, it's:

that I probably don't understand much about history.
 

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[citation][nom]Silmarunya[/nom]I guess a homosexual can freely show his affinity in public and can even marry his partner?Oh wait, that's in Europe.[/citation]
This is nothing to be proud of.

I believe he went in jail not because of the Hitler ringtone, but because of what Hitler said: "destruction of world Jewry". I don't think it's cool to openly state your antisemitism.
 

Silmarunya

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[citation][nom]Horhe[/nom]This is nothing to be proud of.I believe he went in jail not because of the Hitler ringtone, but because of what Hitler said: "destruction of world Jewry". I don't think it's cool to openly state your antisemitism.[/citation]

Nope, it isn't. Freedom of speech is limited and not absolute: pure and open hatred is something that's not covered by free speech.

But what's the relation between my (partial) post you quoted and your (sound) argument?
 
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